but the truth about this is that we will never know the truth... after all, if shes such a brasen faker how tf can we trust what shes telling us?...

 

 

She is a faker when it comes to singing live, not when it comes to the technical aspect on recording.

 

Everyone she has worked with has said that she is a genius in the studio. From Keri Hilson to Danja to Bloodshy, and the only person to say soemthing bad about her is Ne-Yo and that's because she didn't like the songs he offered.

 

If they were going to fake her writing and producing credits, why not make it look like she did almost the whole album and just buy her credibility. That's why I believe it.

how can it be my problem?... im not the one being conned out of money!

 

the problem is that fakery is being accepted by 'fans'.. yes it IS their prerogotive to accept what they want, the point is that they shouldnt, in that way they might get the real deal off their idols who are worthy of such praise...

 

dont let it become a virtual world....

You're completely blind and it's actually really sad. At the end of the day it comes down to this: you firmly believe that there's only room for one opinion on this matter, which is yours. And that's why this debate has peaked and is on the steady decline, and why this topic needs locking.

She is a faker when it comes to singing live, not when it comes to the technical aspect on recording.

 

Everyone she has worked with has said that she is a genius in the studio. From Keri Hilson to Danja to Bloodshy, and the only person to say soemthing bad about her is Ne-Yo and that's because she didn't like the songs he offered.

 

Then great, she has a possible future as a producer then..... Just absolutely no credibility as a live artist.....

 

Imo, I wouldn't want every act to lip-sync obviously - but I don't have a problem with it if the performance is good.

You're completely blind and it's actually really sad. At the end of the day it comes down to this: you firmly believe that there's only room for one opinion on this matter, which is yours. size]

 

WTF are you on about Jark...? How can be it be just an "opinion" that a LIVE concert be LIVE....? It's kind of a common sense reality that if you pay for a LIVE show then that's what you should get..... No matter if you "dont mind" or not, it's not the issue, the artist concerned shouldn't even BE out there faking it regardless of whether people fukkin' MIND or not, she has no business taking people's money if she's not gonna deliver what she's supposed to.... That's just a ridiculous position to take.. You are, in effect, just an apologist for what is basically a fraud being committed upon tens of thousands of people buying tickets for a LIVE show. You just dont accept the fact that there is a principle involved here which goes way beyond whether or not people "mind"......

 

Then great, she has a possible future as a producer then..... Just absolutely no credibility as a live artist.....

 

 

She is also a kick ass performer. My opinion, so don't try to argue about it.

Imo, I wouldn't want every act to lip-sync obviously - but I don't have a problem with it if the performance is good.

 

You're totally contradicting yourself there.... How tf can the "performance" be good, if the act is Lip Synching....? THERE IS NO SODDING PERFORMANCE.... Jesus, just WTF is with you people......?

 

Get a dictionary, look up the word "Performance" and how it relates to a singer/artist in a live concert context......

 

WTF are you on about Jark...? How can be it be just an "opinion" that a LIVE concert be LIVE....? It's kind of a common sense reality that if you pay for a LIVE show then that's what you should get..... No matter if you "dont mind" or not, it's not the issue, the artist concerned shouldn't even BE out there faking it regardless of whether people fukkin' MIND or not, she has no business taking people's money if she's not gonna deliver what she's supposed to.... That's just a ridiculous position to take.. You are, in effect, just an apologist for what is basically a fraud being committed upon tens of thousands of people buying tickets for a LIVE show. You just dont accept the fact that there is a principle involved here which goes way beyond whether or not people "mind"......

 

Do you enjoy saying the same thing over an over again to different people?

 

I'm just curious... it's gotten to the point of being amusing. :)

She is also a kick ass performer. My opinion, so don't try to argue about it.

 

Good, I'll take your word for that then Ty... My point is, that's what she SHOULD be doing if she's good at it, producing, not masquerade as a "singer" when she's clearly not good at.....

Do you enjoy saying the same thing over an over again to different people?

 

I'll keep repeating it until it actually penetrates into people's skulls......

Hopefully you won't get the chance. This IS being locked today if it's the last thing I do.

I'll keep repeating it until it actually penetrates into people's skulls......

 

 

It's not going to. People have different opinions, dude. It's not like you convincing people to dislike Britney Spears is really going to help anything, much less HAPPEN.

 

Her fans are die hard, not even gonna lie. Is it right, not in all ways. But is it true? Absolutely.

 

So basically you trying to convince a Britney fan to not appreciate her is about as likely as getting a drugged up hooker clean and enrolled in law school.

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She is also a kick ass performer. My opinion, so don't try to argue about it.

 

Correction. She was a kick ass live performer Pre 2004:

 

Britney Spears - Gimme More MTV VMA 2007

 

Britney Spears - Womanizer Live X Factor 2008

 

Good to here Jonathan Ross refer to the waste of money taking his kids to see her in concert. Call him (& us old guard Mushy, Grimly & myself old fashioned) but if you are going to see someone live in concert than the least you can expect is them to sing. Otherwise it is fraud. Period.

 

Anyway after criticising her he played this track. This video from 1989 says everything, as it was by an act who famously never appeared on TV shows unless they could perform live:

 

Pixies - Here Comes Your Man (1989)

 

Correction. She was a kick ass live performer Pre 2004:

 

Britney Spears - Gimme More MTV VMA 2007

 

Britney Spears - Womanizer Live X Factor 2008

 

No. She is a kick ass performer, now.

 

 

I've already posted youtube videos from her tour in this thread, so you go find them.

 

You used the worst performance of her career, a performance she has also called terrible. The Womanizer performance is alright, but nothing special, minus the hairflip which was orgasmic.

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It's not going to. People have different opinions, dude. It's not like you convincing people to dislike Britney Spears is really going to help anything, much less HAPPEN.

 

Her fans are die hard, not even gonna lie. Is it right, not in all ways. But is it true? Absolutely.

 

So basically you trying to convince a Britney fan to not appreciate her is about as likely as getting a drugged up hooker clean and enrolled in law school.

 

Like I say Ty, to expect a live concert to be live isn't an opinion.... It's an obligation on the part of the artist themselves to perform their set live.... As Richard says, anything else is just fruad....

 

How forgiving would you be of another artist doing this....? You lot are making excuses for Britney because you are a deluded (oh, sorry, that should read "die hard") fan..... I'll just close the issue by saying this - "A fool and his money are soon parted....." you may want to think about this, not that any of you will though.... :rolleyes:

 

I'm beginning to agree with Jark, lock the topic... Too many numpties here for me to even bother my arse with.....

 

Like I say Ty, to expect a live concert to be live isn't an opinion.... It's an obligation on the part of the artist themselves to perform their set live.... As Richard says, anything else is just fruad....

 

How forgiving would you be of another artist doing this....? You lot are making excuses for Britney because you are a deluded (oh, sorry, that should read "die hard") fan..... I'll just close the issue by saying this - "A fool and his money are soon parted....." you may want to think about this, not that any of you will though.... :rolleyes:

 

I'm beginning to agree with Jark, lock the topic... Too many numpties here for me to even bother my arse with.....

 

Wouldn't really give a $h!t what any artist does as long as the show was spectacular and I enjoyed myself.

 

:)

 

Yeah guys let's close this thread now that Grimly is tired of calling people deluded. Sounds like a plan!

Edited June 13, 200916 yr by Tyler

why close a thread that is still being posted in loads and is 23 pages long? it would be like shooting Britney, don't kill something if it's popular, oh wait it would be like shooting Britney? yeah close it.

Okay, as all parties seem to be agreeing that it should be closed... then I shall. If anyone has an objection of any form, PM me.

erm i was joking btw.