Posted June 7, 200916 yr Facts: Leading single 'My life..' was a nice global hit reaching #1 in 3 countries. Follow up 'I do not hook up' is looking to be a flop, and hasn't reached top 10 anywhere yet...The album in the meanwhile reached top 10 in 12 countries and is looking to stay around a bit longer then 'My december'. Still, after 12 weeks on the global chart it 'just' passed one million. I know the era isn't over yet, but I was wondering how you guys thought about it's succes (or lack of it) this far. I thought things started of nicely with 'My life..' being a nice hit. And if you compare this project to 'My december' it's already doing a bit better. But it's nowhere near the succes of 'Breakaway'. And now 'I do not hook up' isn't doing very well, album sales don't pick up. Maybe it's because she's back to her pop/rock roots, but not very convincing this time around. I say 'All I ever wanted' sounds and did (this far) 'ok'. I do believe the album could get a little boost after 'Already gone' will be released (hopefully with a killer video!)..!
June 7, 200916 yr the reason the album hasn't sold much? the recession. the reason IDNHU hasn't done aswell as it should have? it sounds to similar to the previous single and Already Gone should have been second then IDNHU.
June 8, 200916 yr despite the numbers i think the album's gonna give her career a boost. i love this album :wub: things were a bit slow after my december but with this album she is back.
June 8, 200916 yr To blame the albums lack of sales on the recession is just plain lazy. If it was the recession, then how would lesser albums, like Relapse, sell over 100k in one week?
June 8, 200916 yr Well its confirmed to have sold 1 Million WW so its not REALLY a flop. It couldve done a LOT worse. I mean, i think so far, this is the comeback of 09.
June 9, 200916 yr I mean, i think so far, this is the comeback of 09. I think Eminem, Green Day, The Black Eyed Peas and a few others would disagree with you thus far. And the likes of Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston and a few others would disagree with you for the rest of the year. :P I'm quite surprised how slowly the album has sold, i'm quite impartial really - i'm a Kelly fan, but not a loon and can therefore see it for what it is. The album is a really, really good pop album, with many strong solid single choices. I always knew IDNHU was a bad single choice, it's the most generic pop rock song I believe I have ever heard, and leading on from a (far superior, mind you) generic pop rock song it was never going to do as well. I think My December really damaged her reputation but she's definitely regaining that this time, people are unsure after the bomb of My December as to the quality of this album, and i'm sure future singles will ensure a lot more sales. I think it'll end up on 3m / 3.5m WW. With the right single choices (Already Gone, Save You, Cry, Don't Let Me Stop You - I think anything other than the previous 4 would be a mistake to be honest) it can be quite a successful project. The whole credit crunch thing is RI-DIC-ULOUS. As Joao said, if it's affecting Kelly it would be affecting everyone and it certainly is not. If the album was done now I would call it a flop to be frank, but thankfully it's far from over. IDNHU isn't even over yet. We've got at least another 2, potentially 3 more singles from this album to rectify the mistake. Chill out people, plenty of time to worry about it, plus a tour. :P
June 9, 200916 yr I think Eminem, Green Day, The Black Eyed Peas and a few others would disagree with you thus far. And the likes of Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston and a few others would disagree with you for the rest of the year. :P Well what i meant by comeback of the year, is including the hype, and also the record breaker, i mean she beat Britney's comeback record... Got to #1 on iTunes in less than 24 hours and again, the 97-1 jump on the Billboard. And the reason why i said it was the comeback of the year above those artists, is cos they are really big names and are expected to do well, where as Kelly isnt a big of a name as the ones you listed (Eminem, GD, BEP)... The rest, well we have to wait and see but again they are bigger names when compared to KC The whole credit crunch thing is RI-DIC-ULOUS. As Joao said, if it's affecting Kelly it would be affecting everyone and it certainly is not. If the album was done now I would call it a flop to be frank, but thankfully it's far from over. IDNHU isn't even over yet. We've got at least another 2, potentially 3 more singles from this album to rectify the mistake. Chill out people, plenty of time to worry about it, plus a tour. :P Depending on how well future singles do i think we might get 2 tours out of Kelly this era. Lets not forget, during Breakaway, Kelly done 3 tours. Behind These Hazel Eyes Tour, Breakaway Tour and Addicted Tour. Even though, i think only one of those tours ventured out of the US. The one thing that her label are good at is milking her for all she is worth.
June 9, 200916 yr (Already Gone, Save You, Cry, Don't Let Me Stop You - I think anything other than the previous 4 would be a mistake to be honest) Those are the perfect single choices. :heart:
June 10, 200916 yr Its obviously not a flop, but as many have pointed out its not the recession thats hitting this either. I actually agree mainly with Kelly, when she says that IDNHU is a poor single choice. It certainly sounds radio friendly, and it is, shown by its peak on the CHR in the US, however, its not a track that inspires iTunes downloads, or album buys, mainly because of its lacking originality. I also think, despite its great message, it alienates a lot of potential listeners. It borders, in my opinion, on being slightly juvenile. The situation is, Kelly lost a lot of ground with My December, and she needs to work hard to put herself firmly back on the map. She did that with MLWSWY, it was a #1 hit as we all know, sold well, and initially the album got off to a good start, but I think she's slipping with IDNHU, she needs to go for something contemporary, something slightly different for her, and most importantly with mass appeal. Already Gone, for me, appears to be that track, and hopefully will spur some album sales. I know that many people want other choices, but for this project, whose aim I think is to firmly supplant Kelly in the contemporary pop music scene, needs to have a 4th single choice as Don't Let Me Stop You. It goes back to Kellys original routes, and whilst its nothing new or groundbreaking, it has mass appeal and sounds relatively fresh considering its tried and tested frame. Kelly can take a few more risks on the next record, if she's put herself back firmly where she needs to be, but until then, I think its straight forward single choices. In conclusion, All I Ever Wanted has the potential to be big worldwide seller, but she needs to release the tracks that are going to let her sell in large quantities, and I think 2nd single IDNHU has failed to do that,
June 10, 200916 yr Give it time yet. It still could do well. 2nd single hasnt done as well as I expected...but there are some good songs on the album and with the right promotionl, it could do well.
June 11, 200916 yr I myself never would have chosen MLWSWY as a lead single. I love the song.. But the lyrics are very childish, and the song as a whole isn't really original. I think a lyrically and musically stronger song would have stimulated more people to buy the album. I don't think people will buy an album that is full of songs similar to MLWSWY and IDNHU, as they're very mainstream. The best lead single would have been If I Can't Have You or Long Shot. These two are screaming 'RELEASE ME'. The third single should be Already Gone, and after that IICHY or Long Shot, and after that Save You. That way there's a really nice reflection of what the album mainly sounds like. With enough promo, good vids, the album will still be a huge succes!
June 12, 200916 yr From my knowledge this album's definitely her 2nd most successful and therefore it'd never be classified as a flop, like Joao and Kelly pointed out the album should end off on a huge sales total after some good album-selling singles etc, way too early to compare the album with Breakaway. The album getting top ten in so many countries is more than enough to tell you that it's not a flop. It's a superb album and albums that come into mind as unexpected flops - Cyndi Lauper, Sugababes etc.. AIE is MILES from being called a flop. Fact.. Already Gone is the definition of a generic pop ballad imo but seeing Beyonce made it huge with her generic "Halo", AG should follow a similar trend and push album sales like Halo did for IASF. A ballad as a 3rd single for this era was perfect, the fault lied with the 2nd single.. The 2nd single should've been an upbeat emotional song similar to Behind These Hazel Eyes = The Day We Fell Apart or Don't Let Me Stop You, not a song almost identical to the first single.. For all its worth IDNHU should've/could've been a b-side to MLWSWY or visa versa :lol:
June 14, 200916 yr I think that 'My December' has affected her image so much. I mean, My December is totally different to All I Ever Wanted, who is a very catchy album and very comercial, but I think that it isnt very good. I like the album but All I Ever Wanted isnt Kelly Clarkson, the album sounds 2 Beyonce (Already Gone), Miley Cirus (If I Can't Have You), Katy Perry .. I think that the album wont sell so much, in the next one she needs to work on her own style and do something comercial and personal like my Breakaway ... Anayway I always have thought that I Do Not Hook Up wasnt a good choice ... it is very generic
June 14, 200916 yr The only reason it hasn't sold that much so far is because both singles were very 'young' and quite 'childish'. She needs to tap into the adult market with a more serious song like Already Gone. Ballads really sell albums and crossover appeal is vital which is what she had with Breakaway. At the moment, adults are not going to be drawn to the album based on the two singles released.
June 27, 200916 yr Kelly has ALWAYS appealed to people of all age groups and on this album her singles have been very similar/childish, turning off her older audience. I Do Not Hook Up didn't match the success of MLWSWY because of it being so similar - I agree, it could be a B-side because it is more or less exactly the same. Also, even though it was a success (there's no denying it) I wouldn't have chose MLYSWY as the lead. It's definately catchy, but the lyrics are too.. kiddish to appeal to everyone. It seems to be about a teen relationship. If I would've chose the singles it would've been: 1. Don't Let Me Stop You -- Since U Been Gone/Behind These Hazel Eyes -- Mega success and SUBG probably made Breakaway exactly what it was - a complete success! 2. If I Can't Have You -- Still upbeat, radio friendly but a change. It's more like a dancy pop anthem than an attitude pop/rock song. It would've been a radio smash and probably would've matched MLWSWY's success, except that it has more of an adult theme. 3. Already Gone -- Halo -- Halo was a commercial success and definately boosted sales for I Am... Sasha Fierce. Luckily Kelly is releasing this and it will be a huge success, similar to Because Of You. It is the first single to have a "theme" and a meaning, which isn't about hooking up or petty arguments with your boyfriend. It will be loved by everyone and radio will be all over it. 4. This is hard because there are so many "singles" on the album. Impossible or All I Ever Wanted are mid-tempo radio friendly songs which people would buy. AIEW is marmite, but Impossible could be a huge HUGE success with the right promotion. Maybe even My Life Would Suck Without You could've been released as the 4th single once people see the "serious" Kelly to boost sales and get people dancing. 5. She needs to release Save You. No question. Perfect way to end the era and will be picked up by radio. I think IDNHU was a huge mistake and despite MLWSWY being a HUGE success it hasn't done much for the album in the long run. I personally put it down to the singles, and I'm not saying AIEW was a failure, just that it hasn't performed as well as expected/by Kelly standards. What does everyone else think?
June 27, 200916 yr The reason it hasn't sold a lot so far is because both singles sounded very similar. Already Gone should bring in more sales, with it sounding different to previous singles.
June 28, 200916 yr I don't understand how IDNHU flopped; it's one of Kelly's best singles in ages (since NA). MLWSWY is almost awful, yet it was #1 everywhere? I think AIEW will gain interest after Already Gone is released.
June 28, 200916 yr The problem has definitely been the single releases, and hopefully with 'Already Gone' just around the corner, it will help to bring up album sales that have so far been fairly disappointing, but not exactly surprisingly so. 'My Life' needed to be first because it was a slice of commerical pop that re-introduced Kelly to the world; after the shaky 'My December' they couldn't risk NOT doing something like 'My Life' in fear that fans would have just turned their back on Kelly once and for all. The mistake definitely lies in releasing 'IDHU' second....first off, as a Katy Perry reject, it was never really going to do well in the first place and secondly, the song doesn't build up to an anthemic chorus like its predecessor does.
July 10, 200915 yr Release this and everything will be fixed: Wt5cpJSV5QM It's like Kelly Clarkson's, Toxic. :wub:
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