Billy.

I do think it’s plausible that she was both though. Maybe now that she is out of it she is able to look back and appreciate the highs for what it was although she was uncountable miserable for alot of it too. I honestly want her to finish trying to promote this song and take some time out. I will always have time for Jesy but this attempt at a solo career at this time is just not going to help her public image - she needs to start some serious damage control.

My bad, I misread your original post, sorry! I do think you’re loving this though, it’s another excuse to get up in arms yet. Her swearing on TV isn’t a big deal yet you turn it into a drama.

I don’t need to go onto socials to validate my opinion, sorry. I was referring to the fact you were saying no one swears on the BBC or the show. I have no issue with people that hate her or hate the performance but don’t make things up to suit.

what are you talking about, do you even actually watch the programme?? people swear on it all the time so put your wooden spoon away for a minute. I thought she killed the choreo and came across well in the interview too. She practically said that word for word, yet just said there is no bad blood from her side either. I do think people are taking any thing she says and twisting it to suit their own narrative.

I always loved them from X Factor, back in the day I would always stan the girl bands who never done well (RIP Kandy Rain & Bad Lashes) and grew to love them more as the season progressed. In all honesty though, when they first released music I didn’t rate it at all and still to this day I don’t love the DNA/Salute albums. I always looked out for their music but I really paid attention when Black Magic was released I guess

I’ve absolutely been against the unnecessary hate towards Jesy during the campaign but I also think it’s important that people are able to air their viewes surrounding the whole situation, and I don’t think there are really any comments being hateful at the moment.

I saw her live in 2017 and she was great but I don’t think I would want to see her sing her current material. I know it’s a minority opinion as everyone seems to really love it but I think the last two albums/EP have been so mundane.

She literally looks as unreal as she did in 1999! I can’t wait for this.

I’m ready for them to take a break in all honesty. The girls have given us countless bops but I don’t think we ever really good a stellar album and so some time off to recharge might benefit them in the long run when it comes to the material.

Officially in at number 4.

Well when she’s spent the past 9 years singing fine it’s pretty reasonable to find her current style of singing jarring.

I love the chorus of CYO, but I’m not sure what’s going on with their diction this era!

Could someone point me in the direction of hearing these new ones please?

Is it expected? Prior to this mess people were making digs that the single was going to flop so it seems like not everyone predicted it was going to smash.

Please act your age.

Performing on The Graham Norton Show in 29th October, according to Twitter.

it wasn't Slayer who said nobody was aware though?

I mean isn't Jesy still gonna get royalties??

I'm not sure what adapting that type of outlook on the situation really achieves but I don't think Jesy is a person who does not deserve empathy. like so many have said she absolutely has to be held accountable, and whilst you can't cut her slack because of her mental health issues you can (and quite frankly should) be aware and mindful of them. I suppose we're all unique in how we perceive situations but I just think it's worth remembering that literally nobody is excusing her actions.

Nobody is absolving Jesy of blame, why do people not actually read the posts? Every single person who has shown an ounce of empathy for the situation have also vehemently stated that Jesy is in the wrong. Someone can be in the wrong but can also be vulnerable and so we can also worry about them and how their actions will affect their future.

But Jesy also has multiple people of colour surrounding her telling her that she is doing nothing wrong. There are plenty of POC who see no issue in what she is doing. I don’t want to start that type of conversation really as it’s not upto me to tell people particularly black people how to feel about it but I’m just pointing it out.

I feel this was the case right up until the live last night. I can see why people are angry at her and the whole situation to be honest even if I don’t agree with it.

i also agree that the thread doesn’t really have much of a place in the Little Mix forum right now either. Out of sight, out of mind.

This is not true. He unfollowed everyone after he went live.

He feels like Jesy is being unfairly targeted and felt like Leigh was inappropriate by asking him to ‘incite hate’ on her. not my words or opinions it’s just what he said in his stories afterwards.