Billy.

Misha B seems to have an interesting take on this? not sure how to embed tweets but it’s on her Twitter.

I feel like if she had did that then we’d be calling her out for being disingenuous. I wish she had spoken a bit more at the time but it’s easy for us to say how we would react, when it’s likely Jesy didn’t think she was going to pop off so specifically as she did.

It’s baffling how it’s come to this really. I’m sure there is right and wrong on both parts at some point but it is just disappointing that a group based on friendship has come to this, regardless of what it’s about. I hope the single charts and Jesy can take some time away to reflect and educating.

I completely agree with that and as far as I know I don’t think anyone else is disputing this. She tried to explain the video in the live I’m not sure if you watched that bit and although I hear what she’s saying it should never have been made at all.

I don’t understand this though. Nobody is defending Jesy blackfishing or denying she has made mistakes?

This is exactly how I feel in all honesty. There is no denying Jesy’s blackfishing nor defending it in my opinion, but I am not okay with jumping on a band wagon that comes for someone for every little thing they do.

She literally did though? Jesy sat in silence for the majority of it and only laughed when Nicki started doing accents.

What do you mean we don’t know they’re real? I’m not sure if you watched NoHun’s live but like it was as real as can be, it wasn’t a planned expose it was in response to someone’s comment. He was on live for a while before it even unfolded

This is absolutely what I mean by performative outrage, because surely you really don’t think Jesy laughing at Nicki making those accents is indefensible? You can patronise people for having a different opinion from you but I’m not going to buy into the level of hysteria on the internet just because it’s making noise.

It’s mad how Leighanne does this but it’s brushed off as being naive (which is a fair opinion to make) but Jesy literally laughs for 2 seconds out of a one hour video and she is the devil incarnate.

No, sitting there saying nothing is literally sitting there saying nothing. Nicki is a spontaneous, unpredictable person (to put it lightly) so why would Jesy know she was going to go off about Leigh personally? She clearly had stuff she wanted to say about the matter.

You can acknowledge Jesy’s wrongdoing without taking it to the max though, surely? I don’t mean you particularly but just in general, people are calling her horrible, vile etc because she laughed at Nicki going off on one, at someone being called a clown - I’ve literally seen more rude posts on here..

I’m confused, when did she call her this and when did she laugh at her face?

I understand and I know people will probably hate me for this but why would she? Rightly or wrongly shit has gone on between them and they’re in a bad place, as far as she knows Leigh’s been bitching about her calling her horrible etc to random influencers online. I just can’t wait for Adele to release next week so this can all go away :’)

Jesy didn’t step in and slate her, but she didn’t speak up for Leighann either so I feel like she’s going to regret that.

until onnika started calling Leigh a clown 😅

I wonder if this could crack the top 40 at some point? It seems to be picking up a bit of momentum on Radio?

Watching those videos make me sad because she is still Jesy from Little Mix. Behind the excessive fake tan and whatnot she is literally still the funny, unpredictable girl that made her my favourite member back in 2011. I just hope she can get a handle on this and honestly just get a grip, while she still can.

she is really set on making things as messy as possible isn’t she?

But this wasn’t an ploy by this influencer, as someone who watched the live it was literally his off the cuff response to the people in his comments dragging him for supporting Jesy. it isn’t that he started the live to come for Leigh specifically.

But we’re not talking about years ago though, Jesy has maintained a consistent aesthetic for years which has never really been called out on a large scale until she left the band. She’s had people call her out on occasion but to me it has been exacerbated ever since she left the band. The lines are now blurring and we’re mixing he said she said gossip with the actual serious topic of racism which makes me question how genuine the outrage on some peoples part has been. Jesy has already left the band (and we know it was not under the best circumstances) at the time Leigh dropped her documentary so is it that surprising that she didn’t big it up?

To be honest I was referring to this forum more than anything, I just find it jarring to hear everyone slate her yet this time last year they adored her - I just had a wee look at the forum history and couldn’t find any concerns from fans, not even when the subject of racism was brought up in reference to Leigh’s Instagram post last year yet now Jesy is being dragged to the high heavens at every opportunity. I appreciate that she should be held accountable for how she’s behaved and have always said that, so I’m not just a blind stan but a lot of the (in my opinion) performative outrage is uncomfortable to read.

She looks the exact same there as she does now, so I can’t help but wonder why wasn’t rushing to cancel her for blackfishing whilst she was still in the band? She was arguably the most popular member at this point with her documentary etc and Rita and Ariana were being called out too so it’s not like people didn’t know about it. I get the whole Boyz thing and video has exacerbated the situation but people were gunning her before the announcement, and I personally feel like a lot of it is because they resent her for leaving the band and starting a solo career.

This definitely feels like we’re moving past holding Jesy accountable for black fishing, into vilifying her for everything without having a balanced understanding of what actually went on. I can’t say I’m here for that really.

I completely agree with you for what it’s worth.