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Thanks Jay!

Can we stay on topic please. And as a closing comment regarding "Saturdays will split because of Little Mix" is total nonsense. If that was the case then you wouldn't have 4-5 boy bands would you in the UK right now. There's a place for everyone in the industry, get over it. Whatever happens to The Saturdays next year will have nothing to do with Little Mix. Just as a comparison with their past albums, this is how much they each sold up to their 3rd charting week. 43,500 - Chasing Lights 41,500 - Headlines 33,500 - On Your Radar 25,500 - Wordshaker So they're 'worse off' by 10k than when they started out 3yrs ago.

.. Because they've all made a huge success out of themselves at the end of the day. And if you're referring to The X Factor which I imagine you are, then all of the boy bands have ties to The X Factor and SyCo (apart from Westlife, now, and The Wanted, but let's not go there..) It's got nothing to do with "They're a boy band, we MUST give them amazing promotion". They've simply carved out a good name for themselves.. with the help of SyCo.

Exactly! :) You only have to look at the UK's boybands.. JLS, The Wanted, One Direction, Westlife.. all successful and they've all had to compete against each other lately, a very healthy thing. Hell, even JLS and One Direction have collaborated a number of times on stage lately, if you can't beat them, join them!

Next year they must break the UK first. Failing that (well, has it already?) Europe isn't out of the question. But then again they said in the All Fired Up tour programme that they have planned trips out to America.. God knows! :lol:

That was very kind to say the least! Have a good time :)

Oh I know what you meant, I just worded it a bit wrong, sorry. They may just have to "sit in hair and make-up and perform for 3 minutes", but let's be economical. Is it worth all that wait and faff at a TV studio (that will probably have no benefit to the sales of the album, as it would be on a daytime show, and the fact that they've already capitalised on the first week sales where the majority of their fans will have already brought the record), when they have to perform at an arena in the evening and go through the same process again.. commute, hair and make-up etc? It's not really is it. I highly doubt that any money they spent on the commute it took them to get to the tv studio (including their 'team') plus the cost to actually appear on the show would translate into an increase in sales. This is why it's crucial to get your campaign spot on. Their management have not been successful at organising their latest campaign's at all. The TV shows they've been on have been substantial, but the whole way the campaigns have been structured have been poor to say the least ('Notorious' being a prime example - they just couldn't figure out how to structure an on air/on sale style of release and combine the promotion and marketting to go with it successfully) Releasing an album 1wk/2wks before embarking on an arena tour was always going to cause trouble, and they've lost so many ticket sales because of this; It's not just cost them sales from their music. The casual buyer will have only had 2wks to get used to the LP and actually decide if they'd want to invest further in the brand by going to one of their shows. 2wks is simply not enough time which is why there is usually at least a 3-4 month gap between the release of the album and the respective tour so they can shift more tickets. Simple. So there you have it. Their management has lost them ticket and music sales because they couldn't organise the campaign properly. The Saturdays aren't business women, they're there to endorse their product at the end of the day, it's not up to them personally when or what or how they organise a campaign. I blame their managements poor skills at the end of the day. They best hope that they can save this whole era next year because I can only see the next single's success riding on what happens to them in the future.

Their not lazy at all. How the hell can they be at London studios to perform on Daybreak (or whatever) when they have to be in Cardiff for the tour in the same day for example. You have to take into account of hair and make-up at the tv studios and all the other stuff they do, (they don't just "turn up for 3 minutes" that's ridiculous to even think so), the commute time it takes them to get there and then get to the tour venue, hair and make-up will have to be done again for the evenings performance.. you have to be at the venue hours before the show starts. I've worked in the industry on both sides, on the stage and off, I'm speaking from experience. Why would the label waste even more money getting them on crappy daytime shows when they could be putting that money else where.. they had good promotion in the first place for My Heart Takes Over, and it wasn't just the usual trip around the daytime tv shows either. I wish people would stop moaning about where and how they promote, they can only do what they can realistically do. And what I mean by that is if everything else is booked apart from Daybreak and Alan Carr then they'll book Daybreak and Alan Carr. There's no picking and choosing. There's a place and room for everyone in the industry. I don't literally feel like anyone will go "Ah The Saturdays deserve to flop as they can't be bothered to promote, I'm going to support Little Mix". In my opinion it will be good for them to have some strong competition. It'll certainly get it out their heads that they think they're bigger than they are. All they can do now is send the next single off to radio's and hope it starts getting rotation until next year when they can start promoting the single. They've worked non-stop this year. 2 tours, one member pregnant, another one hospitalized, the LP to complete, 3 singles.. cut them some slack. They're not lazy in that respect at all. They deserve their 2wks off after the tour and for Christmas, jeeze.

Yes because they can do TV appearances whilst they're on tour. Be realistic.

That's a bit out of context if I'm being honest. There was truth to the US 'deal' just not as big or extravagant as the press made it out to be. They confirmed that it was all still in "planning stages" and that it was an idea they've had for a while, and it's them putting the ideas forward as they don't just want it to be another reality series like 24/7 and What Goes on Tour. And the Germany trip was going to plan. They flew out there a few times to talk to their German label (Una even took pictures as proof) but they later decided that they wanted to release the same track at the same time, as in new material at the same time; Not old material that's been round for a while. They may as well maximize potential by releasing a track no-one has yet rather than one that would have been out for nearly a year (Higher).

They're filming the show tonight at the M.E.N Arena. Signs where put outside the arena saying that If you enter the building then you agree to appear in the filming, along those lines. :)

So they sold out 2/3rds of the arena out then?

I'd have guessed so, it's the only arena they're going to in the West Midlands, I think?

The tour has made me fall in love with Get Ready Get Set :heart: I wasn't keen on it at first, but the whole routine and what not on the tour has made me love this now!

I agree, it's always seemed to me that they only started the management group so they could have some bezzie showbiz friends. I mean they are the only high profile artist on their roster. They manage The Alias too which is why they collaborated for the LP and b-sides.

I think there's no doubt in my mind that this tour will bring in more revenue compared to their LP sales. Tickets from £20 - £30+ (?), and there was the VIP tickets, £100. Compare that to £8.99 at around 27,000 sales. I'm right in thinking that around 27,000 people are attending the tour based on the information regarding 'sell outs' from picture proof, and information regarding venue capacity? I agree, and they know it. Frankie said a few months ago that although they want to brake Europe first, she acknowledged that they needed to break the UK first.

I thought that all along, but depression is more of a mental health condition isn't it, rather than a 'medical' condition? :huh:

Fingers crossed! :dance: She's sounding brilliant on tour as well with the adlibs too. They might be a bit tuned at times but who cares if it sounds good!

They make alot more money through touring than they would the album so this is favourable.

They've also sold out the Manchester date too, according to someone on PopJustice, and Ticket Master and another vendor are also reporting that too.

My only criticism of the record is that it sounds a bit mashed together, and each track has very similar elements. It unfortunately makes each song seem to sound the same on each listen and overall it leaves me in a bit of a blurr, but you can't deny it's not consistent because on a more positive note the album is their best yet. I also like the fact that they have embraced the fact that 'Wish I Didn't Know' could have belonged on their debut and does sound a bit 90's as they've gone with that sort of theme for the song on tour (The record with 'Wish I Didn't Know' playing on the vinyl in the background and the mic stands). Promise Me and I Say OK are still not sitting right with me though; but it's funny how Promise Me is the one song that is always stuck in my head, more than any other track on the album. The hook "You promise me me me the the the world" just replays over and over again. Irritating as hell as it's my joint least favourite on the album. The album is still brilliant and I'm still listening to it all the way through though. This best not age fast. :(

This is why they need to move onto the next single a.s.a.p. They can't let the flop of My Heart Takes Over delude them into thinking that the rest of the album will not help, because they need to stay out there. They're in a risky position where if they stay out of the charts for too long they'll be forgotten.

You just know when they come to re-release include half the album in a 'Headlines' style EP next year, this will be the track that is missing from the tracklist because it 'tainted their success' haha. Ala the actual song 'Wordshaker' not appearing on Headlines despite it being one of the best on there. Blatantly wasn't included because it was also the same name of the album :lol:

Sorry, this is the same person that disclaimed that they weren't going to be a fan no more because of this? Move along, to put it nicely.