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I don't believe for a second that they wont have another opertunity, of course they will. If not Una will just blag to Peter (It was Jayne before) that she's going away whether they like or not because she "wasn't been on a holiday in ages" even though they had festivals coming up. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have holidays, I'm saying they shouldn't have one when they are releasing - it's inapropriate. Their management are a bad example for them since they all went away as well. Ideally, they should have at least done another tv performance that week. Like I've been saying, the promo for Notorious wont do anything if it keeps on bombing down iTunes as radio and TV are going to be less likely to keep up the support for it, whether it has been released physically or not yet. If it's daytime shows they've got, they have no hope in hell of this going back Top 10.

We were discussing their Greatest Hits CD on PopJustice the other day. They would have a fantastic GH disk - all their singles have been above average. There's not one that I could pick out and think "I hate that one, skip it". Surely some are better than others, but they have all been very good pop singles. Even if this album bombs (which I hope it dosen't, because this album sounds like it has some very solid foundations) next year the label will comission their Greatest Hits collection regardless.

They have been extremely lazy - letting members of the band go on holiday, and their management going away on release week too! This will look like a total embaressment when then drops out of the Top 40 in a week or two. I'm all for the physical release too like Una said she still believes in them - but doing all the promo in that week is a massive mistake. By the time the physical release comes round, it may still be bombing down the charts, therefore loosing valuable radio and video support which right now they need the most to keep Notorious alive. The Sats have always worked on air/on sale before with 'Issues', 'Ego' and 'Higher' some of their biggest post-album sellers, and Notorious is following in no such light which is worrying. I would have included work but it wasn't one of their most successful singles that also followed the OA/OS method. If I was their label/management group whatever, or whoever is in-charge of sorting the promotion out, they should have been perforing this on TV at least once a week to keep Notorious a-float. If all the promo they have for release week is the daytime rubbish then they'd be lucky to get it in the Top 20 again.

But this has never happened on this sort of chart-scale when the single has been released after the album. I don't re-call any of their singles that were released after the album bombing then climbing when the physical copy was out. It has always been a steady increase in sales, or a stable position (Ala Higher sticking Top 30 for agessssss). Never has one of their post-album singles bombed before the physical release. The single looks like an embaressment for them now, I hate to say it. Before I get shouted at, I know they haven't promoted it yet, and I know they're going to; but because this has bombed down the chart (meaning a lack of interest is surrounding it) the less the radio stations and video channels are going to continue supporting it regardless whether it has been released physically or not. The radio and video support is there at the moment, but people are not buying it which is worrying. They have taken a gamble doing this on air/on sale lark, and so far it has not paid off - whether it was "meant to" do this or not. Their management/label have always believed that The Sats are bigger than they really are which is why I believe they went for on air/on sale in the end - why else would they do it? I don't see any other groups that are doing it, especially girl groups. Their pre-album singles have always sold a decent amount, always over 100k - at the moment I don't see Notorious even out-selling If This Is Love. Of course this is all part of a bigger picture here; Their management thinking they are bigger than they are therefore not pushing them to the next level. They should have staggered the promo out. There is no way these average morning daytime shows are going to give the boost Notorious needs, back into the Top 10. Unless they have something huge planned, but this is The Saturdays we're talking about, lets not get our hopes up. The sad thing is, even if on air/on sale dosen't work for Notorious, I bet you they'll still go ahead and do it for the next pre-album singles, and if Notorious flops and sells less than their debut single they'll blame the failure on "It was a buzz single". And on a down note, I'm tired of Notorious already :mellow: :(

Have you even heard the official remixes? They're all awful. The only mix that is half decent is the Chuckie mix. The rest are rather dissapointing.

Fingers crossed, but the fact that radio and tv are supporting it, and it's bombing down iTunes is not a great sign. It should be stable, yet it's freefalling. I get the feeling it'll go down to C-List on Radio 1 this week.

What a joke. #28 in the mids and #32 on iTunes. It'll be out the Top 40 next week at this rate.

Does it work like that? Because I thought it did for quite a while, but then I thought well surely the pop.bars are there to measure the popularity - not the effect it has on a track at #27 because of the popularity of the #1. Is that why the pop.bars are so low this week? #27 now btw. Edit: #28.

Their popularity isn't increasing though, it's going down. Was at #23 on Sunday, now #25, and about 10 minutes ago it was 0.10% popularity, and now it's 0.09%. I can only see it dropping further.

#26 in the mids

Them not plugging Headlines was rediculas. However when they have been on the radio lately it's been Una who has been plugging the hell out of Notorious! It's quite funny actually.

#25 in The Monday Chart (http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=129928) I think maybe next week will it will start to turn around. The sign of it not dropping a further 13 places is a God-send. I think Nicola Roberts (#19), Templecloud (#22), JLo (#17) will fall below The Sats this week. Are you suggesting that they may as well do without the extra few £100 just because they wont make a profit out if it? They'll need all they can so It will matter, even if it's an extra £20. But profit dosen't really exist in a physical form with The Saturdays does it at the moment - which is why they'll need all they can. :) (Can't you bold the text you want to stick out more instead of putting it capitals? Gives the impression your shouting at me).

I'm sure it does if there is a few 100 sales between each position. Not really about chart positions though is it these days.

Good job as now they're back on the airwaves Headlines should be in the Top 100 for a while longer, like it re-entered this week. Is £3 elegible for the UK Album chart though? Will it go to the budget chart instead now?

It's true. They need to pull their socks up. Moving on.. 14 Dev Download Bass Down Low (Tinie Tempah Remix) Download 0.169017 15 Rihanna Download California King Bed Download 0.158863 16 Nicola Roberts Download Beat of My Drum Download 0.156042 17 The Black Eyed Peas Download Don’t Stop the Party Download 0.155816 18 Jessie J Download Nobody's Perfect Download 0.151416 19 Templecloud Download One Big Family Download 0.149272 20 Nicki Minaj Download Super Bass Download 0.147129 21 Inna Download Sun Is Up (UK Radio Edit) Download 0.133815 22 Swedish House Mafia Download Save the World (Radio Mix) Download 0.125014 23 Jennifer Lopez Download On the Floor (Radio Edit) Download 0.110798 24 The Saturdays Download Notorious Download 0.109557 25 David Guetta Download Where Them Girls At (feat. Nicki Minaj & Flo Rida) Download 0.107864 26 ADELE Download Someone Like You Download 0.107300 Is it me or are the pop.bars really low already? 20% like last week at #18 would have got them in the Top 10 this week. 10% for #24, what? I think it'll drop this week again and start going up, like a u-turn.

Shaddow is right Lee. I'm a massive Saturdays fan, but even I can see their flaws. There's no point sugacoating everything - some things like Missing You being #1 for 2wks on the Airplay chart were worth celebrating, but at the same time there are pros and cons with everything The Sats do, and unfortunately most of the time its the cons that stick out the most which is why people are so negative towards them when they release music in the UK. Putting aside their past 'mishaps' (and there's quite a few), imagine Notorious as a fresh start. It's too early to judge how this going to perform in the long-run, and we wont know for some time, possibly up untill the physical release which is a whole 3wks away yet. I'd love to be their manager for a whole era and plan everything start to finnish. They're doing on air/on sale so this can be expected - but this is either going to do moderately well, or be a complete embaressment, and right now I'm going for the latter option. Even though the promotion is up to their management to sort out, the girls appear extremely laid back. They don't show a real love for Notorious, it comes across. They just don't seem bothered nor committed to this single. I don't know what it is about this group but it's been said before, and something is missing. I've described them as the 'pasta topping' on a Lazagne but without the meat. The meat is missing.

Fishy indeed!

.. It's Friday? :mellow:

16 David Guetta Where Them Girls At (feat. Nicki Minaj & Flo Rida) 0.213941 17 Swedish House Mafia Save the World (Radio Mix) 0.209639 18 Chris Brown Yeah 3X 0.193804 19 Jennifer Lopez On the Floor (Radio Edit) 0.190189 20 The Saturdays Notorious 0.184854 21 ADELE Someone Like You 0.170224 22 Wynter Gordon Dirty Talk 0.165577 :(

At tops it'll land at #20 this week, but I've got a feeling it'll stick at #21. Yesturday's midweeks looked like this: #24 Nicki Minaj - Super Bass #23 Templecloud - One Big Family #22 The Saturdays - Notorious #21 Lady Gaga - The Edge Of Glory #20 Inna - Sun Is Up #19 Adele - Someone Like You #18 Swedish - House Mafia Save The World #17 Lady Gaga - Born This Way #16 Nicole Scherzinger - Right There #15 Lady Gaga - Judas #14 David Guetta - Where Them Girls At (feat. Flo Rida & Nicki Minaj) Todays midweeks look like this: #23 Nicki Minaj - Super Bass ( 1) (iTunes #15 = 0.22%) #22 Lady Gaga - Egde of Glory ( 1) (iTunes #26 & #93 = 0.16%) #21 The Saturdays - Notorious ( 1) (iTunes #18 = 0.21%) #17 Lady Gaga - Born This Way ( - ) (iTunes: #29 = 0.12%) Nicki Minaj could be a problem. However, Adelle (Someone Like You) and Gaga (Born This Way) may just let Notorious through to the Top 20 (#20).

Up to #21 in the mids :) And a new popularity peak on iTunes this week of 19.7% 15 Nicki Minaj Super Bass 0.213015 16 Swedish House Mafia Save the World (Radio Mix) 0.209249 17 Inna Sun Is Up (UK Radio Edit) 0.203599 18 The Saturdays Notorious 0.197112 19 Chris Brown Yeah 3X 0.193764 20 Jennifer Lopez On the Floor (Radio Edit) 0.187905

(Sugababes don't have a BGT slot btw afterall that fuss - neither do The Sats btw) Where did you hear this?!

2 or 3, however that depends on their plans with Europe.

Fantastic news that it's moved up to the B-list! I honestly thought they'd still be on the c-list or even worse, dropped.

Up to #22 in the mids :) Should be #21 tomorrow. 16 Nicki Minaj Super Bass 0.198407 17 Inna Sun Is Up (UK Radio Edit) 0.197699 18 Jennifer Lopez On the Floor (Radio Edit) 0.195221 19 ADELE Someone Like You 0.192920 20 The Saturdays Notorious 0.191858 If they were to get another 0.01% they could be at #16...