richy67

Anybody seen the MTV "Official" year end top 40? Also done by the OTC, but a huge amount of differences with this "official" chart - anyone know the reasons for the discrepencies?

songs like "nobody to love" really show what a great year 2014 was - nice to hear charts without the 7-day wonder records clogging up the top end!

...then I guess you should be grateful for those few sales in 2013 that prevent it being even higher this year!

....same could probably have been said of "All I want for Christmas is you" in the 96-99 period : (or fairy tale of New York from 88 to mid 90s) - takes a long time to know what's really a classic and what isn't

tweets - the birdie song (#2 1981) sweet people - and the birds were singing (#4 1980)

Stonk - Hale & Pace : no amount of promotion could make something this woefully poor acceptable today. Even let's get ready to rhumble was mildly amusing in comparison

....I guess since this thread was started 'Ding Dong the witch is dead' has blitzed all previous contenders statistically??

...have been listening to chart show since Tom Browne in 1978 : Jamelia far and away the best presenter ever in that time. Unlike other presenters she does seem to be genuinely interested in the chart as well as the Music, with a nice sense of humour. Be MUCH better without crap competition and waste-of space guests in the last hour, but presenter herself fantastic.

...is this not just the ordinary official chart with any non-dance records crossed out and the remainder moved up accordingly??

.....please excuse me not noticing your thread and posting my own version! Many thanks for the (more accurate) figures than I had that I can now update from (if one of the mod guys could delete my thread, that would be great thanks!!)

oooops! just noticed someone else did the same thing a bit before me!!! Please ignore this thread!

Thought it might be interesting as the last 2 years have been so big to combine them with the previous 10 based on the stats that are posted on the site. Please do point out the many glaring errors omissions here as I just cobbled it together, while trying to avoid work! Top 100 01 Will Young – Evergreen 1,789,000 02 Gareth Gates – Unchained Melody 1,338,000 03 Black Eyed Peas – I Gotta Feeling 1,249,000 04 Adele – Someone Like You 1,241,400 05 Tony Christie – Do You Know The Way To Amarillo 1,182,000 06 Shaggy – It Wasn’t Me 1,179,000 07 Alexandra Burke – Hallelujah 1,158,520 08 Kings Of Leon – Sex On Fire 1,152,500 09 Band Aid 20 – Do They Know Its Christmas 1,138,000 10 Kylie Minogue – Can’t Get You Out Of My Head 1,084,000 11 Shayne Ward – That’s My Goal 1,081,000 12 Hearsay – Pure and Simple 1,079,000 13 Bruno Mars – Just The Way You Are 1,063,500 14 Maroon 5 – Moves Like Jagger 1,042,000 15 Lady Gaga – Poker Face 1,023,000 16 Eminem and Rihanna – Love The Way You Lie 1,017,500 17 Bob The Builder – Can We Fix It 1,009,000 18 Leona Lewis – Bleeding Love 1,005,000 19 Rihanna – Only Girl In The World 1,003,000 20 LMFAO – Party Rock Anthem 992,400 21 Matt Cardle – When We Collide 992,000 22 Jessie J – Price Tag 981,200 23 Cheryl Cole – Fight For This Love 965,500 24 Atomic Kitten –Whole Again 956,000 25 Gnarls Barkley – Crazy 926,000 26 Rihanna – We Found Love 905,000 27 Lady Gaga – Bad Romance 889,800 28 Cee Lo Green – f*** You 868,500 29 Pitbull – Give Me Everything 865,800 30 Bruno Mars – Grenade 852,200 31 Leona Lewis – A Moment Like This 825,000 32 Kings Of Leon – Use Somebody 812,800 33 Take That – Rule The World 800,200 34 Ed Sheeran – A Team 800,000 35 Adele – Rolling In The Deep 798,000 35 Katy Perry – Firework 798,000 36 Jennifer Lopez – On The Floor 784,000 37 DJ Otzi – Hey Baby 776,000 38 Black Eyed Peas – Meet Me Halfway 775,200 39 Journey – Don’t Stop Believing 771,800 40 Rihanna and Drake – What’s My Name 768,700 41 Enrique Iglesias – Hero 768,000 42 Tinnie Tempah – Pass Out 764,000 43 Westlife – Uptown Girl 756,000 44 Lady Gaga – Just Dance 754,610 45 X-Factor Finalists – Hero 751,243 46 Eminem – Stan 739,000 47 S Club 7 – Don’t Stop Moving 731,000 48 Katy Perry – California Gurls 727,500 49 Usher – OMG 722,500 48 Snow Patrol – Chasing Cars 712,800 50 Yolanda B Cool – No Speak Americana 718,000 51 All Saints – Pure Shores 709,000 52 Baha Men – Who Let The Dogs Out 707,000 53 Kelly Rowland and Nelly – Dilema 706,000 54 Owl City – Fireflies 700,000 55 BOB ft Hayley Williams – AirPlanes 698,000 56 Ellie Goulding – Your Song 677,500 57 Christina Perri – Jar Of Hearts 669,200 58 Rihanna – Umbrella 666,500 59 Adele – Make You Feel My Love 662,500 60 La Roux – In For The Kill 658,195 61 Joe McElderry – The Climb 646,568 62 Sonique – It Feels So Good 645,000 63 Rihanna – S&M 643,000 64 Elvis Presley – A Little Less Conversation 636,000 65 Military Wives – Wherever You Are 631,800 66 Black Eyed Peas – Where Is The Love 628,000 67 Lady Gaga – Born This Way 625,600 68 Helping Haiti – Everybody Hurts 621,900 69 Bruno Mars – Lazy Song 617,200 70 S Club 7 – Never Had A Dream Come True 616,000 71 Robbie Williams – Rock DJ 612,000 72 Shakira – Whenever Wherever 606,000 73 Black Eyed Peas – Boom Boom Pow 602,435 74 Duffy – Mercy 601,000 75 Lady Ga Ga – Telephone 598,500 76 Leona Lewis – Run 596,070 77 Girls Aloud – Sound of the Underground 596,000 76 Alicia Keys – Empire State of Mind pt 2 595,000 77 Rihanna – Rude Boy 595,000 78 James Blunt – You’re Beautiful 592,000 79 Shaggy – Angel 589,000 80 Plan B – She Said 589,000 81 Chris Brown – Beautiful People 588,400 82 Jay-Z ft Alicia Keys – Empire State of Mind 585,600 83 Las Ketchup – Ketchup Song 583,000 84 Example – Change the Way You Kiss Me 581,800 85 Lady Gaga ft Beyonce – Telephone 580,100 86 Nickleback – Rockstar 580,000 87 Rage Against The Machine – Killing In The Name Of 575,426 88 Gareth Gates – Any One Of Us 575,000 89 Aloe Blacc – I Need A Dollar 574,000 90 Spiller – Groove Jet 573,000 91 Beyonce – If I were a boy 570,000 92 Jessie J – Do It Like A Dude 570,000 93 Eamon – f*** You I Don’ Want You Back 569,000 94 Michael Andrews and Garry Jules – Mad World 569,000 95 Shakira – Hips Don’t Lie 561,000 96 Leanne Rimes – Can’t Fight The Moonlight 560,000 97 Tinnie Tempah – Written In The Stars 559,500 98 Gareth Gates – Spirit In The Sky 558,000 99 Snoop Dog – Sweat 556,600 100 Wheatus – Teenage Dirtbag 552,000

....I think 'Sunday Girl' was the 4th single off Blondie's 'Parallel Lines' when it went to no.1 in 1979

should Take That's 'Progress' not feature too?

not the case! my comments are entirely objective, I much prefer some of the joke no.1's to Maroon 5 FYI.

...I agree with the 4 week moving average method, however with the 50:30:20 this should not happen, as the ONLY way to prolong would be with significant week 2/ 3 follow up sales (christmas week could be the exception here though)

4 week moving average for comarison: this week; 1 (2) One direction (79,962.5) 2 (1) maroon 5 (75,684) 3 (4) Dappy (47,619.75) 4 (3) Pixie Lott (37,433) 5 (16) Sak Noel (32,879.75) (NB Rihanna No.15 on 21,893.25) last week: 1 (1) Maroon 5 (75,761.25) 2 (2) One Direction (67,462.5) 3 (4) Pixie Lott (53,656.25) 4 (13) Dappy (37,619.75) 5 (5) Olly Murs (36,347.25) w/c 25/9 1 (1) Maroon 5 (75,779) 2 (5) One Direction (55,491.75) 3 (4) Example (45,314) 4 (8) Pixie Lott (45,156.25) 5 (2) Olly Murs (42,089.5) w/c 18/9 1 (1) Maroon 5 (72,348.75) 2 (2) Olly Murs (61,377.25) 3 (4) Calvin Harris (51,008.25) 4 (7) Example (38,814) 5 (-) One Direction (38,491.25) w/c 11/9 1 (1) Maroon 5 (66,870) 2 (3) Olly Murs (52,530) 3 (2) Wretch 32 (49,499) 4 (5) Calvin Harris (43,258.25) 5 (4) Christina Perri (39,961.25) w/c 4/9 1 (8) Maroon 5 (46,260.75) 2 (4) Wretch 32 (43,249) 3 (9) Olly Murs (42,530) 4 (3) Christina Perri (40,267) 5 (13) Calvin Harris (34,508.25) w/c 28/8 1 (5) Cher Lloyd (34,521) 2 (1) JLS (34,083.75) 3 (8) Christina Perri (33,439) 4 (12) Wretch 32 (33,249) 5 (3) Ed Sheeran (31,507.75) w/c 21/8 1 (2) JLS (53,837.75) 2 (1) wanted (40,409.75) 3 (4) Ed Sheeran (35,505.5) 4 (3) DJ Fresh (31,073) 5 (9) Cher Lloyd (30,521) w/c 14/8 1 (1) Wanted (52,424) 2 (5) JLS (47,042) 3 (2) DJ Fresh (40,875.75) 4 (3) Ed Sheeran (40,837.5) 5 (4) Beyonce (32,250.75) w/c 7/8 1 (2) Wanted (73,761.75) 2 (1) DJ Fresh (54,396.5) 3 (3) Ed Sheeran (44,609.25) 4 (4) Beyonce (38,044.75) 5 (10) JLS (37,833.25) w/c 31/7 1 (1) DJ Fresh (80,873.75) 2 (2) Wanted (62,627.75) 3 (3) Ed Sheeran (47,014) 4 (4) Beyonce (41,752.25) 5 (9) Lock Essiene (39,471.5) w/c 24/7 1 (2) DJ Fresh (69,216.25) 2 (9) Wanted (47,733.75) 3 (4) Ed Sheeran (47,365.75) 4 (7) Beyonce (45,924) 5 (1) Jason derulo (43,783.75) w/c 17/7 1 (5) Jason Derulo (55,430.5) 2 (7) DJ Fresh (54,913.5) 3 (1) Example (49,382) 4 (3) Ed Sheeran (45,866.75) 5 (2) calvin Harris (42,952.5) w/c 10/7 1 (1) Example (58,945) 2 (3) Calvin Harris (50,932.5) 3 (6) ed Sheeran (48,622.5) 4 (2) Pitbull (47,356.25) 5 (7) Jason Derulo (45,930.5) w/c 3/7 1 Example (75,942.75) 2 Pitbull (55,080.75) 3 Calvin Harris (40,932.5) 4 Alexandra Stan (40,913.25) 5 Nicole Scherzinger (31,699.75)

This thread is following up some of the chats I've had on other threads re. non-number 1's being created within the rules of the chart, thus making it sometimes not very reflective of what's really happening. Some have suggested a 4-week rolling chart may be better (will post as a comparison later), whilst personally I think a system that spreads the sales of any individual week over the next 3 in, say a 50:30:20 ratio would make the top end of the chart more genuinely reflect real number ones rather than some of the joke no.1's we've had recently (no names, but you know who I mean!!) What do other people think? Any suggestions for a better method? Using my suggestion, the last few charts would be like this: This week: 1 (2) Maroon 5 (77,340.1) 2 (3) Dappy (55,479.8) 3 (1) One Direction (52,965.3) 4 (7) Sak Noel (50,729.3) 5 (-) Rihanna (43,786.5) Last week: 1 (1) One Direction (75,135.1) 2 (2) Maroon 5 (73,219.4) 3 (4) dappy (55911.7) 4 (3) Pixie Lott (39346.4) 5 (10) Jason Derulo (38,435.4) w/c 25/09: 1 (2) One Direction (80,190.5) 2 (1) Maroon 5 (75106.9) 3 (3) Pixie Lott (53298.2) 4 (-) Dappy (48319.5) 5 (6) Saturdays (36,041.1) w/c 18/09: 1 (1) Maroon 5 (77,238.3) 2 (-) One Direction (76,982.5) 3 (5) Pixie Lott (52,533.9) 4 (4) Example (45,836.6) 5 (2) Olly Murs (41,888.3) w/c 11/09 1 (1) Maroon 5 (74,771.7) 2 (2) Olly Murs (60,120.9) 3 (4) Calvin Harris (50,125.4) 4 (7) Example (45,836.6) 5 (-) Pixie Lott (44,446.5) w/c 4/09 1 (3) Maroon 5 (64,755.6) 2 (1) Olly Murs (63,229.8) 3 (2) Wretch 32 (52,249.3) 4 (4) Calvin Harris (51,447.5) 5 (5) Christina Perri (43,569) w/c 28/08 1 (-) Olly Murs (54,575.5) 2 (1) Wretch 32 (51,199) 3 (10) Maroon 5 (45,184.5) 4 (-) Calvin harris (43,922.5) 5 (4) Christina Perri (40,498.1) w/c 21/08 1 (-) Wretch 32 (38,247.5) 2 (1) JLS (35,305.4) 3 (3) Cher Lloyd (34,289.4) 4 (9) Christina Perri (32,427) 5 (8) Nero (32,051) w/c 14/08 1 (1) JLS (54,015.8) 2 (2) Wanted (41,183) 3 (6) Cher Lloyd (37,039.3) 4 (4) Ed Sheeran (35,721.2) 5 (3) DJ Fresh (32,224.6) w/c 7/08 1 (3) JLS (56,063.3) 2 (1) Wanted (54,894.8) 3 (2) DJ Fresh (42,762.2) 4 (4) Ed Sheeran (42,044.2) 5 (5) Beyonce (33,548.1) w/c 31/7 1 (2) Wanted (75,352) 2 (1) DJ Fresh (56,294.9) 3 (-) JLS (49,008) 4 (3) Ed Sheeran (46,096.4) 5 (4) Beyonce (39,092) w/c 24/7 1 (1) DJ Fresh (80,444.6) 2 (2) Wanted (72,034.5) 3 (4) Ed Sheeran (48,955.5) 4 (3) Beyonce (43,601.6) 5 (9) Loick Essiene (39,920.7) w/c 17/7 1 (1) DJ Fresh (81,712.8) 2 (-) Wanted (58,582.5) 3 (7) Beyonce (46,689.7) 4 (4) Ed Sheeran (46,431.8) 5 (2) Jason Derulo (45,108.9) w/c 10/7 1 (-) DJ Fresh (70,285.5) 2 (2) Jason Derulo (56,821.7) 3 (1) Example (51,625.1) 4 (5) Ed Sheeran (46,076.6) 5 (3) Calvin Harris (43,955.4) w/c 3/7 1 (1) Example (59,898.3) 2 (7) Jason Derulo (53,134.1) 3 (3) Calvin Harris (51,613.8) 4 (2) Pitbull (49,399.4) 5 (5) Ed Sheeran (47,205.7)

real shame this is being abandoned just because of the desire to 'fix' a brief period at number 1 for a track with little support outside a core base. to repeat a point I made on another thread earlier on, perhaps the OCC should review the way the weekly chart is put together. A simple tweak to how sales are registered (such as 50% sales made this week count towards chart, 30% counting to next week and 20% the week after), would prevent the ability to snatch a number 1 with low support. this, combined with on air, on chart could make the charts a bit more reflective of what's really going on in the market

I agree entirely with what you say here, but I don't think a 'pure' monthly chart would be very interesting. Are you suggesting a rolling monthly chart (i.e. every week the chart consisting of the previous 4 weeks sales?) Alternatively, some form of 'amortised' sales might might the charts more realistic (e.g. weekly sales for chart purposes = 50% this week + 30% last week + 20 % week before). This might allow genuinely 'big' records to get swiftly to the top whilst keeping the minnows down and not being quite so slow as a rolling month long chart. (Whilst also ensuring every sale counts towards the chart at some stage

...has any record EVER been number 2 behind five different number ones before? I remember Alice Deejay being number 2 behind three, but can't think of many other similar? (Can't remember how many Love the Way You Lie was last year) Also, as it seems likely it may make no.1 next week, has any record ever been as long as five weeks at number 2 and then gone on to number 1? Jason/Kylie did 4 I think, and Abba's Fernando similar - any others?

what a crap year! with only 12 tracks left STILL plenty of $h!t to chose from!!!

hmmmm....reading this thread makes me realise how good this year's been so far as there's no song that's really pissed me off yet. (...unlike the '2005' thread which held the most dire records in history!) With no nauseating football songs on the horizon and all charity songs swiftly evaporating , 2011 is looking pretty good!

great idea! ...and now can we re-compile the singles chart to exclude charity singles?!?!

hmmm....really think you should make it 3 charts, male, female and any collaboration/mixed song should be in a third 'transexual' chart!