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hi everyone i m back again ,i m sure you missed me :) so about the 2011 results i made mistake about france ,but the results were set up for sure , Azerbaijan 1st with a normal song but not the best ,the country that wanted more to host the condest lest see what happened in esc 2010 ,they chose a very good song ,they spended so much money to promotion than ever country did.it was the first time in my life that was seening the video clip of the song when i opened the youtube and not only there but to every eurovision room.first time Bulgary didnt gave 12 points to greece ,what ever that means.they see that they cant winand they chose other way . Italy 2nd place, italy came back after many years ,one of our big country ,at least the second place for italy please in order to stay ,and of course the first place in 2-3 years . lol , its too obvious

IRELAND? no way .... and second GERMANY?? i am still laughing.... i will make a very dangerous prediction ,i think |Ireland wont even pass to the final :o lena 's song is very good !i like it a lot ! but not for the first listening ... i believe two big surprises according to betting odds will be Turkey -Georgia and the biggest disappointing favor will be Azerbaijan Estonia is the biggest favor for the second place ,after France of course ,but maybe will be in a lower position after the cooking results :D

its so simple France isnt first in any poll , you can check it ,but the odds are felling continuously ,it was 7-8 and now its the big favor with only 4 ,the next favor is 8 and 9 is this normal ? NO! What does this means ? this means that the people who knows that france is set up to win are betting continuously and the odds fell and dont tell me that they dont know it but they are just predicting it because everybody bets according to the polls and as i said before france isnt first in none poll ....

and ...................................................................................... suddenly everybody bet for france , the odds fell from 7-8 to 4.3 !!! this is the first time you ll remember older my posts me and the second will be in the final... why france got so many bets and the odds fell ? this is normal when a country is favor at the polls ,nor for a country which is from 5-15 to every poll...

this is going to happen for me too at first you hate my opinium but when you ll see the final results .... you ll be like :wub: and i am from greece too ... :naughty:

:w00t: good!! so, if it was so easy and so sure as you re claiming ,why you didnt bet 10.000 to win 5.000 for example or all your money ? i ll tell you why , because ,it wasnt sure until the end of voting when we saw the results. do you believe that the bookmakers are stupit ? if it was sure as you are claiming the odds would have fallen to 1.10, 1.05 or 1,01 ... ;) ps .when manga announced the song ,the results of the biggest poll in turkey was ,75% didnt like it and only 25% liked it ....

are you talking for me ?

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easy or not, it was a sure bet and it gave me good profit ;) , it was 1.40-1,45 not bad ! as easy was the live betting with my country GREECE for top 10 ,which i bought it at 2.00 before the begging of voting and i sold it after Albania vote us ,to 1.16 :cheer: knowing that we ll be sure be at the top 5 or top 3 (we were 1st ) at that point because 4 of 5 countries (Romania -Ireland -German -Serbia-Albania ) always giving us high points :cheer: ...

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ok tyron i give up , erase of your mind all you have read here and take this as my first post its a prediction topic and i predict without any argument ;) that FRANCE will win ... Can you peter remind me what i have predict ?

i agree that it was a popular song before and SURE after the contest, i never say that it was a bad song ,it was a good children s song , it could easily got a good position in top 10 or top 5, it might got the 3rd place in televoting or the 2nd or the 1st from the child's votes, but the juries are not childrens ...

i am showing you the voting gap between the two parts, the EU and not the EU. its seams so strange :huh: to me. you are giving as an example RYBAK? you got a be kidding me ,the phenomenon of eurovision ,the highest score ever ... and as a second example the esc 2001 ? A contest with 23 voting countries and only juries voting . TO EVERYONE we are just discussing here i am not tring to convince you for anything i am writing my opinium and i am reading yours wink.gif

knock knock wake up ... :rolleyes: Two countries are leading the EU , make all the decisions and leading the whole europe , Germany and France. Norway is not a member state of the European Union (EU), but is closely associated with the Union through its membership in the European Economic Area (EEA), in the context of being a European Free Trade Association (EFTA) member. Switzerland always giving at least 7-12 points to Germany ,70% of citizens are speaking german . Serbia is a candidate country and just an 8 is not a serius degree to mention to . TO EVERYONE we are just discussing here i am not tring to convince you for anything i am writing my opinium and i am reading yours ;)

i am reffering to Armenia, Moldova, Belarus, Georgia and ISRAEL l ,i also reffering to Ajerbaijan 1point and also russia gave only 6 ,average points ... Have you ever seen a winning country eith only one "7points" ?Isnt that strange to you ?for me it is ,i can easily believe that they transformered to 10 and 12.

:rolleyes: i mean the European Union my friend ,i made a small mistake sorry :naughty:

OK lets make the things more clear, This is a prediction topic for the esc of 2011, and i predict that, its FRANCE turn to win the contest,not because of the song but as GERMANY won last year, and i also strengthen my opinium , showing you the proves of how germany won .

thats i am talking about ... sure germany was a big favor last year ,but also big favor was azerbaijan and very good favor was armenia,and both of them finished under the 5th place ,so dont tell me about favors... personally i dont like france' s song at all ,and i believe that many are not opera fans ,as i wrote before the opera fans are just a few and the juries are just a few too, so when you see france winning you all remeber my posts and i hope that nobody ll say "it was a big favor and the best song so it wins "

I really hope i am wrong ;) but i dont think so ,as long as they never gave us the fully results,its something that strengthen my opinium ...by the way ,i believe that france this year dont have chances to win ,its an opera song that never had good performance In eurovision and its a kind of music for sort of people and its also a kind of music not for all the juries but for sort of them,do you agree with me or not ?

Cant you see that? There are 2 countries leading europe ,the make all the decisions for the EU, GERMANY AND FRANCE. Last year, we saw Germany wins with an average song for juries .The first year of juries(2009), we saw juries voted for quality songs like iceland ,un kindom and france , and last year they voted for "i even painted my toe nails for you " hehe. as i said i wrote before they didnt gave us the full results until now. Now ,france is the best favor this year , what do you think ? all these are coincidences ?

Exactly !! Isnt that weird or not ?

not a chance for ajerbaijan to win this contest... i believe that eshonia s song is much better than all ,the best this year , but i dont believe that eshonia will win, because last year ,not even lady gaga or the pitbull could win germany ,not because of the song of course ... that is going to happen this year again with other country predict which country is ? i believe i have predict it :dance: ps .havent you ever wondered ,why they didnt gave us the full results of juries and televoting last year ? the previus year (2009) they had done it. maybe ,because the results are not logical ? because lena was between 8th to 10th on televoting :naughty: and 1st to juries :blink: ? and we are talking for a song that could win only from televoting and not from juries ....

A very good bet is turkey in top 10 ,the odd is 1,50 not bad as we know that turkey has many diaspora voting and the fact that it will reach to 100 points(its in the top 10 with 100 points ) is very posible... dont forger that europe has allready voted from Manga in MTV so maybe the fans will vote them again , the song is good and its the only one this year a with this rock -metal music ,its the only option for people who likes this kind of music ...

hi everybody i am betting every year to esc with a very good profit we cant chat not only for the winner ,but to many special bets for exmple ,head to head ,top 10 ,top 4 e.t.c lets chat