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N Dubz, definitely not a great track for me. They did have some alright stuff though.

Love both but Deadmau5 is a hypnotic beauty - so glad it made the final after getting a lot of early votes.

Definitely Joss, quite a nice soulful version.

Love them all! So T2, amazing production, slightly grating but charming vocal.

I care little for Espresso Macchiato but found the performance really funny too (especially the security guards thing) and elevated from the national final. I completely get why it was the most (genuinely and not rigged) popular entry with the public. Also it's a huge earworm, people are streaming it too - it's the highest entry on Spotify UK. The moment I saw it in the semis I thought 'ah, this is going to have WAY more public appeal than I'd even imagined' (I thought it would be below KAJ for sure before that). I agree with Jahq on the vocals thing - it's somewhat important but really Eurofans bang on and on about vocals all season way above the potential of the actual song itself a lot of the time, and there are countless examples of why with an entry destined for big things, it doesn't matter much. Sure though, for borderline qualifiers it is likely to be more crucial to help push them over the line. E.g. I don't really think Dizzy would have done any better if Olly had delivered a note perfect performance last year, yet his vocal is cited as one of the primary reasons Dizzy failed - it's just a non-competitive song and whatever staging or vocal they threw at it wouldn't have changed that.

Interesting to see one more entry this year than last, five in the top 51 is good and hopefully all should chart officially. But nothing in the top 20 probably means no entries will make the top 20 officially. My top two (Bara Bada Bastu and Baller) being in the mix is fantastic to see, especially the public latching onto the latter with its midtable finish, BANGER. Here's 2024 and 2023 for comparison: 2024: 14. Nemo - The Code 28. Baby Lasagna - Rim Tim Tagi Dim 43. Joost - Europapa 64. Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue 112. alyona alyona & Jerry Heil - Teresa & Maria 128. Slimane - Mon amour 164. Olly Alexander - Dizzy 165. Angelina Mango - la noia 2023 (UK hosting hype and buildup/extra coverage plus loads of commercial sounding entries this year): 1. Loreen - Tattoo 2. Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha 4. Alessandra - Queen of Kings 9. Mae Muller - I Wrote A Song 17. Noa Kirel - Unicorn 33. Gustaph - Because Of You 34. TEYA & SALENA - Who the Hell Is Edgar? 43. BLANKA - Solo 49. Loreen - Euphoria 60. Voyager - Promise 62. TVORCHI - Heart of Steel 71. Marco Mengoni - Due Vite 77. Andrew Lambrou - Break a Broken Heart 85. Vesna - My Sister's Crown 106. ALIKA - Bridges 114. Remo Forrer - Watergun 123. La Zarra - Evidemment 157. Joker Out - Carpe Diem

I've definitely noticed that the public seem to not care about a good/bad vocal. For sure it helps with your jury score to have a great vocal, but with the public vote I'd put Sissal, Remember Monday and Zoë Më up there all in the top ten best vocals, and they were the bottom three with the public. Extend that to the whole bottom five with Miriana and Melody (and I've also just noticed the public vote bottom five was all women ☹️). Estonia on the other hand was second on the televote, and the winner if you take out the Israel situation, and the vocal was...not good. But it doesn't matter for that kind of track. If you screw up the vocal on a ballad though, I guess you would be more exposed.

Quite some consistency to come 11th both times with the same track in a different field!

We didn't appear in the top ten vote of any single country (same as Switzerland). The highest we appeared in an individual televote was 18th! So we were nowhere near scoring even 1 point. James Newman's Embers got closer to scoring 😢 I'm not absolutely shocked but I thought we could at least get a point or two from Australia, Malta or Ireland. It's a shame to be so far away again and not really a deserved zero imo.

I think that - while sounds good in theory - would be open to manipulation. I could see Israel supporters just taking the bottom nine from the odds to put in their vote alongside Israel, which obviously would make the result even weirder not to mention completely unrepresentative.

I would say Israel was the only truly questionable/position not based entirely on song result for me. The other big televotes were popular songs/high diaspora etc. YouTube views after the semis tallied a lot with the high results for Estonia/Austria/Sweden, and even Poland/Greece to a lesser extent. Obviously there were a few outliers with the YouTube stats, like Spain, but we know how passionate Spanish fans are at supporting their own. I agree that paid ads should be banned and voting not open until after the songs have all been performed. Although it's all extra $$$$ for the EBU of course, which is a shady organisation at best so I don't expect them to change it in a hurry.

France - 7th (-6) Sweden - 4th (-2) Finland - 11th (-8) Austria - 1st (+3) Netherlands - 12th (-7) Albania - 8th (-2) Israel - 2nd (+5) Switzerland - 10th (-2) Estonia - 3rd (+6) Pretty hopeless prediction from me overall, with France and Netherlands being the most overpredicted (seems the jury weren't as predictable as expected, it's been several years since I've been that far out with a predicted winner), as well as Finland (I don't know what happened with the public vote there), and Israel and Estonia the most underpredicted. At least these nine did all make the top 12 so no huge howlers but Finland really had the full package to do far better. Greece, Ukraine and Italy were the others in the top ten and I did at least win a bet on Italy being top ten so that wasn't a huge shock. The other two did make sense too, a great performance from the former with a lot of the southern and Eastern votes going to it deservedly, and Ukraine's diaspora/support boost helped them plus the song did stand alone musically so I get it.

True, actually pretty decent that KAJ made it based on yesterday's streams as nobody would have presumably been streaming until after the show finished, so it must have been streams from hype after the semi-final. Just checked back and Olly didn't re-enter until after the final last year (and as low as 164 whereas Remember Monday is already higher pre-final), so this bodes a lot better for Remember Monday in terms of potentially gracing the top 40 officially.

I doubt they would cap voting as it's all $$$ for the EBU. But yes, limiting to maybe two votes per song would help reduce this, and you could give two to your ultimate favourite without Israel getting loads of 20 votes. I read one woman said she voted 100 times for it so she must have done it across loads of different phones.

'Cutting edge' 🤣 It sounds like she literally phoned in a 'will this do' vocal from an old Nokia 3310 while in the bath (or somewhere else with terrible acoustics) and the producer laid it on top of an Underworld reject from 1996.

Loads of the karaoke versions are doing well weirdly, I wonder if people are just clicking download from what looks like the official album and getting confused. Baller top 10 <3 Remember Monday is up to No.1! A top 40 official placing would be a nice consolation for them.

I guess it's unlikely there will be any major Eurovision hits this year as KAJ did quite a lot poorer than I expected and I don't see JJ even doing as well as Nemo, it wasn't in the UK televote top 10 (I can't remember if The Code was though). Would still love to see Bara Bada Bastu chart here, and Remember Monday make some kind of impression! 2023 and those four songs in the official top ten feels like a long time ago, but there was a lot of commercial hits that year, and obviously the hype of us hosting it.

No worries, I had it on a playlist I have of songs I want on streaming that were previously there or are available somewhere in the world but are 'greyed out' here. I always routinely check the playlist to see if anything has come back on, and was pleased to see this had, as I thought I'd read in the past that Damien doesn't like the radio edit so might be purposely keeping it off (although not sure where I heard that as can't find a source).

Agreed there will be a lot of opera/classical next year, if not in the contest itself then at least the national finals.

I'm very worried about this. If 300 televote points are basically secure then the jury need to completely ignore it to stop it. But how can they if Israel send a genuine banger normal pop song one year and not the usual dated propaganda ballad that's easy to ignore. I suppose this year was an anomaly though because it's the most spread out the vote has been in years, which was no real surprise I guess as it was always a hard one to call. So the jury winner has now won three years in a row, but I will take it over the alternative.

Wow, I do not care for Wasted Love but PHEW! The very worst situation avoided. Congrats Austria and to the people that won money (not me!). Oops at it not appearing in the UK televote. Unbelievable that Switzerland got 0 on the televote but I did think it would score low with the public. Not in the mood for French ballads it seems. 19th is way higher than I thought we'd get thanks to juries. We really need something exceptional to get any public points these days I think.

Sweden's going to end up too far behind, definitely giving Cha Cha Cha/Tattoo vibes in the opposite direction for Sweden/ Does look like Austria's to lose as their public vote will be way higher than Switzerland. Stay tuned for loads of opera entries next year if an opera winner follows a winner with opera parts last time.

Omg jury points coming in for Remember Monday <333

Luxembourg giving us points <3 Not at all surprised at the France/Austria/Switzerland jury domination.

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