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Spotify Chart Thread 2014, Part I
Try their global chart http://charts.spotify.com/ it should have the streaming numbers And from there you can select Country Weekly or Daily Latest / Week of/ Day of Right now on the Global Chart for the week ending August 24, 2014 #1. Rude 9,786,082 #2. Stay With Me 8,055,353 etc...
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Spotify Chart Thread 2014, Part I
http://musically.com/2014/08/20/spotify-top-50-tracks-us/ Spotify Top-50 track streams up 108% year-on-year in the US (exclusive) http://musically.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/spotify-top-50.jpg 162% year on year growth for the UK. Soon to be #2 Spotify market in the world? Though the South Korea streaming market is probably the world #1 right now http://gaonchart.co.kr/chart/streaming.php South Korea Streaming Chart week ending August 23, 2014 #1. 9,035,413 streams #2. 8,857,105 streams #3. 7,593,119 streams etc... It would be interesting if Spotify decide to expand to South Korea.
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Spotify Chart Thread 2014, Part I
why use livepopbars when Spotify offer Spotify Chart with Daily and Weekly Streaming Numbers? and has stats dating back since the chart inception? For example, the GLOBAL CHART http://charts.spotify.com/ For the UK (weekly) http://charts.spotify.com/?object=tracks&a...amp;date=latest http://charts.spotify.com/?object=tracks&a...date=2014-08-17 http://charts.spotify.com/?object=tracks&a...date=2014-08-10 etc... For the UK (daily) http://charts.spotify.com/?object=tracks&a...amp;date=latest http://charts.spotify.com/?object=tracks&a...date=2014-08-22 http://charts.spotify.com/?object=tracks&a...date=2014-08-21 etc....
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
If Billboard doesn't count Pandora, which is many times bigger than Itunes radio, why would it start counting Itunes radio? Billboard Hot 100 is airplay + sales + on-demand streaming. Internet Radio is not on demand.
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Example on what the UK Charts could report/look like: Song X by singer Y is #1 this week with 84,321 sales equivalent units. 70,120 downloads, 2,404 physical sales and 1,179,000 streams (equivalent of 11,790 sales). The ratio will be: 70,120 / 84,321 = 83.1% download 2,404 / 84,321 = 2.9% physical 11,790 / 84,321 = 14% streaming
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Internet radio won't count. Billboard doesn't count Pandora for example. And Pandora is HUGE in the USA. 70,000,000+ active users.
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Have CD, digital tracks & album download peaked in the US?
Looking at the USA market: 2012 RIAA #: Streaming Revenue: $1.0328 billion USD (up 59%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.623.6 billion USD (up 6.7%) Album Download Revenue: $1.205 billion USD-----------------combined downloads at $2.829 billion CD (physical): $2.4856 billion USD 2013 RIAA#: Streaming Revenue: $1.439 billion USD (up 39.3%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.569 billion USD (down 3.4%) Album Download Revenue: $1.234 billion USD (up 2.4%) ----combined downloads is at $2.803 billion CD (physical): $2.1235 (down 14.6%) According to Billboard, streaming is growing some 30-40% this first quarter. Download is down 13.3% overall. Here's my projection 2014 RIAA # projection Streaming: ~$2 billion combinded download: ~$2.4 billion 2015 RIAA # projection Streaming: ~$2.6 billion combined download: ~$2.1 billion Streaming revenue will surpass combined download revenue in the USA in about 12-14 months. Without a doubt, streaming will be the dominant form of music consumption in the very near future.
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
so maybe 15000 sales for #1 and maybe 3000 sales for #50
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Maybe some day down the road when streaming is like 80% of the music business. Billboard doesn't count streaming toward the album charts.
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Not true. Streaming is expected to be a $2 billlion business in the USA this year. And be larger than combined download revenue (singles and album) at the end of next year. 2012 RIAA #: Streaming Revenue: $1.0328 billion USD (up 59%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.623.6 billion USD (up 6.7%) Album Download Revenue: $1.205 billion USD-----------------combined downloads at $2.829 billion CD (physical): $2.4856 billion USD 2013 RIAA#: Streaming Revenue: $1.439 billion USD (up 39.3%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.569 billion USD (down 3.4%) Album Download Revenue: $1.234 billion USD (up 2.4%) ----combined downloads is at $2.803 billion CD (physical): $2.1235 (down 14.6%) According to Billboard, streaming is growing some 30-40% this first quarter. Download is down 13.3% overall. Now that Apple is all in with on-demand subscription with Beats Music, streaming will even grow faster.
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Doesn't that mean that the album is popular? People are streaming it. Which generate money. If Unapologetic is the #30 most streamed album that week, it means that it makes #30 most money for an album.
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Have CD, digital tracks & album download peaked in the US?
In the USA, streaming is within 1.5 - 2 years of surpassing download according to my prediction. The same will be true in the UK too soon afterward. 2012 RIAA #: Streaming Revenue: $1.0328 billion USD (up 59%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.623.6 billion USD (up 6.7%) Album Download Revenue: $1.205 billion USD-----------------combined downloads at $2.829 billion CD (physical): $2.4856 billion USD 2013 RIAA#: Streaming Revenue: $1.439 billion USD (up 39.3%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.569 billion USD (down 3.4%) Album Download Revenue: $1.234 billion USD (up 2.4%) ----combined downloads is at $2.803 billion CD (physical): $2.1235 (down 14.6%) For 2014, download combined is down 13.3% according to Billboard. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news...down-streams-up 2014 prediction: streaming: $1.87 billion (up 30%) download (combined): $2.44 billion (down 13%) 2015 prediction: streaming: $2.34 billion (up 25%) download (combined): $2.20 billion (down 10%)
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Any update on when the UK Official Chart will add streaming to the Singles Chart? p.s. A huge milestone for Spotify and the music industry was announced today. January, 2010:------------ 250,000 paying subscribers March 17, 2010:----------- 320,000 July 20, 2010: ---------------- 500,000 Dec 8, 2010: ---------------- 750,000 March 8, 2011:--------------- 1,000,000 July 14, 2011: -----------------1,600,000 Sept 21, 2011: --------------- 2,000,000 Nov 23, 2011: ----------------2,500,000 Jan 26, 2012: -----------------3,000,000 July 31, 2012:-----------------4,000,000 Dec 6, 2012: ------------------5,000,000 March 12, 2013:---------------6,000,000 May 21, 2014:----------------10,000,000 paying subscribers
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Have CD, digital tracks & album download peaked in the US?
You can track streaming too. http://charts.spotify.com/ that's the equivalent of Itunes giving sales figure on a weekly basis in every country it operate. each stream on spotify = $0.006 in royalties 100 Spotify streams = $0.60 royalties
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Have CD, digital tracks & album download peaked in the US?
It happened in the USA. Is the UK far behind? Physical CD, digital tracks download and digital album downloads are now in decline in the USA. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news...down-streams-up Only streaming is growing: 2011: $650 million 2012: $1.033 billion (up 59%) 2013: $1.439 billion (up 39%)
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Looks like physical CD, digital tracks download and digital album downloads all have peaked in the USA. All 3 are now in decline. Streaming is the only component growing (should surpass download by the end of 2015) the GROWTH of streaming in the USA 2011: $650 million 2012: $1.033 billion (up 59%) 2013: $1.439 billion (up 39%) http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news...down-streams-up It's easy to see why Itunes want to do an exclusive to prevent streaming from growing even faster:
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
USA # but likely relevant to this thread. UK streaming market is about 2 years behind IMO. RIAA 2013 Report for the US Music Market http://76.74.24.142/2463566A-FF96-E0CA-2766-72779A364D01.pdf 2012: Streaming Revenue: $1.0328 billion USD (up 59%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.623.6 billion USD (up 6.7%) Album Download Revenue: $1.205 billion USD CD (physical): $2.4856 billion USD 2013: Streaming Revenue: $1.439 billion USD (up 39.3%) Singles Download Revenue: $1.569 billion USD (down 3.4%) Album Download Revenue: $1.234 billion USD (up 2.4%) CD (physical): $2.1235 (down 14.6%) For those wondering why Billboard include streaming, look no further than this stat: Streaming Revenue: $1.0328 billion USD (up 59%) Streaming Revenue: $1.439 billion USD (up 39.3%)
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
It looks like singles download has peaked in the USA. It is now on the decline. http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/593...n-billboard-200 Digital track sales this past week totaled 23.04 million downloads, up less than 1% compared with last week (22.99 million) and down 9% stacked next to the comparable week of 2013 (25.4 million). Year-to-date track sales are at 247.1 million, down 11% compared with the same total at this point last year (278.8 million).
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
Stream Revenue 2013: £103m (number of streams doubled from 2012) Singles Download in 2013: 188.6 million Singles Download Revenue 2013 scenario A (79p is the average price): 188.6 million downloads x 0.79p = £149m Singles Download Revenue 2013 scenario B (89p is the average price): 188.6 million downloads x 0.89p = £168m It won't be too long before Streaming Revenue surpasses Singles Download Revenue (this has happened in the USA already so maybe 2 years away for the UK). So it's just a matter of time before the UK Charts incorporate streaming into the UK Singles Chart. Look no further than this figure for UMG: 2012 streaming revenue for Universal Music: $353 million 2013 streaming revenue for Universal Music: $618 million (up 75%)
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
If 50 on-demand streams = 1 sales, then #1 Rather Be 1,089,114 plays = 21,783 sales Sales will still dominate. Streams are not front loaded like downloads, especially if songs are not On Air On Sale. I don't think it will effect the chart that much.
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2013 streaming revenue £103m; 2013 singles sales 188.6m unit
When will streaming revenue surpass singles download revenue in the UK? Stream Revenue 2013: £103m (number of streams doubled from 2012) Singles Download Revenue 2013 scenario A (79p is the average price): 188.6 million downloads x 0.79p = £149m Singles Download Revenue 2013 scenario B (89p is the average price): 188.6 million downloads x 0.89p = £168m
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
http://charts.spotify.com/ Then Select "UK" in the "Select Country" box #1 Rather Be 1,089,114 plays #2 Timber 707,817 plays #3 Happy 612,622 plays #4 Dark Horse 566,100 plays If 75 on-demand streams = 1 sales, then #1 Rather Be 1,089,114 plays = 14,521 sales #2 Timber 707,817 plays = 9,437 sales #3 Happy 612,622 plays = 8,168 sales #4 Dark Horse 566,100 plays = 7548 sales
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Streaming to be included in the UK Official Chart: CONFIRMED
something like this will happen 75 on-demand stream (Spotify, Deezer, Google Play All Access etc..) = 1 download 200 Youtube/VEVO stream (at least 2 minutes long) = 1 download Which mean half a million on-demand streams = 6667 sales 2 million Youtube/VEVO stream = 10000 sales Sales will still make up 70% or more of the total.
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2013 streaming revenue £103m; 2013 singles sales 188.6m unit
All the on-demand subscription streaming like Spotify, Deezer, Beats Music, Rhapsody allow offline mode. You download the songs or playlist. Play them offline. No data charge. Streaming is gaining major traction in the market: 2012 streaming revenue for Universal Music: $353 million 2013 streaming revenue for Universal Music: $618 million (up 75%) http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news...venue-last-year
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2013 streaming revenue £103m; 2013 singles sales 188.6m unit
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/...g-plays-spotify It is growing VERY fast. http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-26238575 Singles download is growing VERY slowly. It might take a downward turn like in the USA in a year or two. In the USA, streaming revenue has surpassed singles download revenue. RIAA will release the 2013 number in a few weeks. Here's 2012 number 2014 so far: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/591...k-since-titanic