Dante77

Get Together is bloody brilliant, and would be in my Top 10 every time. I can never decide which is my fav track from Confessions, either Jump or Get Together. Loved this track from the first time I heard it and have never grown tired of it. Just perfect.

The much-criticized Rolling Stone article you quote, only looked at 2009-11 (such a narrow window) to come up with the new Queen of Pop. There was a massive uproar over it; and it's only taking the temperature for 2 years when M didn't release anything new and wasn't active. If they did it for the years 2019-2021 it's likely Dua Lipa would be the new Queen of Pop. The article you mention is flawed, I'd like to see it done over a decade, which is more representative. In response to that article, Rolling Stone asked the public, and Madonna was overwhelmingly voted the Queen of Pop - getting 5 times more votes than gaga. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-li...-madonna-58257/ I'm not replying again, I'm not interested in debating this because Madonna was and still is the Queen of Pop. I've already detailed why - Biggest-selling female artist of all time, biggest solo touring artist, and on and on... (I'd be happy to entertain the idea of either Beyonce or Rhianna as the 21st Century Queen of Pop) - but not Gaga, she doesn't even come close to those. People can keep banging the Gaga drum as much as they like - much like the declaration that Kylie or Janet is the Queen of Pop - it doesn't make it a fact. Gaga as mentioned before by others, is for me, a Streisand-like artist, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't like Gaga's voice nor Streisands, but they've both done some decent music, but they both bore me and that's why I'm in the Madonna forum and not the Gaga one. Once again, this is a Madonna forum, not a place to keep banging on about Gaga or indeed anyone else. That's what their forums are for.

And again..... Can I remind people (especially one obvious troll), that this is a Madonna forum - and whilst being a superfan of other artists is commendable, the facts don't lie, however much you want them to!!!! Here's a little poll for you from 2011 when Gaga was hot-ish, and M not so much. Madonna got 5 times as many votes as Gaga. Gaga as The Queen of Pop?!!!! It's never going to happen, love, despite you wanting it to be so. You bet on the wrong horse, Gaga will never be the Queen of Pop. Ever. She's bloody talented though (I don't care for her voice), but her songs aren't so bad. Enjoy them, be happy and enjoy Gaga's success, she's great, just not Madonna-great..... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-li...2/8-cher-77300/

Madonna was being referred to as the Queen of Pop by Rolling Stone from the mid-'80's - that's really early on in her career as a superstar, and so time isn't just a factor, it's about huge global domination - from 1985-91, Madonna was everywhere, kids at school had her posters up, wore badges, huge crowds waited outside her hotel and she was arguably the most famous woman on the planet (bar Diana), and was on every magazine cover after cover, sold out huge worldwide tours and her chart achievements in a pre-download era were unrivaled. Her global reach, her dominance, and her influence and cultural impact are why she was and still is the Queen of Pop. No other female has since achieved that. Some have had great sales, but who has had the huge world tours (biggest solo touring artist of all time) - it's Madonna. Not anyone else. Who's the biggest selling female artist of all time... Madonna. Can I remind people (especially one obvious troll), that this is a Madonna forum - and whilst being a superfan of other artists is commendable, the facts don't lie, however much you want them to!!!!

Madonna was the Queen of Pop and for me, she will always be... Gaga in 2008-10 had the potential to be, and then the wheels fell off and Artpop happened and then I realised that she would never be more than just a pale pastiche of our true Queen of Pop. To be the Queen of Pop you need to sustain global domination for many years, have huge originality, have a huge run of hit singles (and not just an initial splash), have run after run of huge world tours, become a global phenomenon, and stay that way. Culturally, Madonna has made the hugest impact and is still doing that (although perhaps not for all the right reasons these days). There are successors out there, but high sales don't make a Queen of Pop; take note Ariana and Dua - it has to be something else. I think the only one who has come close, is Rhianna, certainly not Gaga. For me, she wouldn't even be a Princess of Pop!!! :-) As for Beyonce, I'm not a fan, but culturally she's def up there - but there's never been Beyonce Mania like there was for Madonna. I think the 'mania' is also key in those early years in establishing a reign. By the way, I also don't think Gaga is even in the Top 10 of the World's greatest selling female artists of all time! https://www.telltalesonline.com/43429/best-...female-artists/

Live To Tell is an absolute 10 for me... (God, I'm hoping I gave it a 10 now having said that)!!!!

Jump will always be in my top 10, should be higher... Please don't let Like A Prayer be #1 - I'm hoping for a surprise!!!!

Justify My Love is one of her very best.... just everything for me. Rain, I want to like it (love the video), but it somehow never quite hits the mark for me.....

I really don't care for Beautiful Stranger, it's way too high on this list! Material Girl is an iconic M song, but again, I never listen to it, and I don't have any love for it.... Bah humbug!

Huge love from me for both Dress You Up and even more for, Drowned World.... I'd of been happy if DW was in the Top 10 - an unconventional choice of single, and I love it all the more because of that. Sublime.

Gutted to see Holiday gone already; it's almost 40 year's old and will forever be an M classic and although I don't listen to it so much anymore, it's still one of her greatest pop moments, and as already mentioned, a top 10 on 3 different occasions (when that actually meant something), and I remember as a little boy wondering that M was at #1 with Into The Groove and #2 with Holiday, again when that actually meant something, and was a huge achievement, signalling Madonna mania in the UK. Secret and Celebration should have been much much lower.

Nooo. Such good tracks. I remember being underwhelmed when Erotica single came out; and now I love it - it's brave, dark, and strangely timeless. Erotica - the album is my favorite M album and so this song still gets played, but the best version of it for me, is from Confessions - Erotica, You Thrill Me is a high, and my most played version of this song. Love. A lot of love for True Blue too, it's a perfect pop song and I love Rescue Me. I fear that tracks that I don't rate so highly like non-fan-favorite 'Like A Prayer' will end up doing well in this poll, while the brilliant gems like Rescue Me have fallen too early. Rescue Me is sublime, just perfect - and the vocal is everything.

Funnily enough I'm in agony every time Gaga opens her fleshy neck to sing.... funny old world isn't Adelita ! True Blue is probably one the most iconic album covers of all time. Scrap that, it is the most iconic for me. Love it.

What an incredible group of songs....I love all 3, Medellin should be much higher; I love it - her strongest lead single since Hung Up - it's brave and I never tire of listening to it.

I actually hate 'Living For Love', I think I've only played in a handful of times.... just awful, and for me, her worst ever lead single. Nothing Fails is sublime and I'll Remember is passable. I remember that 'I'll Remember' was a huge hit in the USA, staying at number 2 for 4 weeks, topped the A/C chart, and was one of the USA's 20 biggest selling singles of the year - inexplicably - it's so forgettable for me....

Lots of love for Bad Girl from me - it's beautiful, and it fits perfectly within my favourite M album, Erotica. Masterpiece is a nice ditty, it's a pleasant listen, but suffers from a couple of clunky lyrics and just doesn't ever fully get off the ground for me. Zero love for MATM - just awful.

Love Angel; Madonna in 1985 was white-hot and as a true superstar, had arrived - Angel reminds me of that golden period. I remember as a little boy in September 1985, seeing so many girls (and boys) in my school talking about Madonna, wearing Madonna badges, and following her obsessively. There hasn't been anyone since then, to reach those dizzying heights again. I really like Love Profusion too. Levitating is dire. I've only listened to it twice, just awful.

The Look of Love is such a beautiful little song that I often forget about, but what a bridge! 'I Rise' is all that is wrong with Madonna post-Confessions..... And I love LDLHA, such a raw vocal. Bye Bye Baby I like (there was a great housey remix I used to play a lot I think it was called On the club), One More Chance sounds unfinished to me (but the vocal is sublime), and Bitch I Madonna for me, is her worst ever single.

Surely one of the greatest album covers of all time?!!! The word 'iconic' gets overused, but in this case, the True Blue album cover is truly .....ICONIC

True Blue Like A Prayer Erotica

Such a perfect M song and video - I love this song and this era, every single released from True Blue is a 10 - I don't think she's ever had an album where the singles were so consistently good and such big hits - all classics.

1. Erotica - You Thrill Me - live 2005 Confessions Tour 2. Waiting 3. La Isla Bonita or Into The Groove or Jump or Get Together - I just cannot choose.

8 Everybody 7 Burning Up 10 Holiday 8 Lucky Star 10 Borderline 8 Like a Virgin 5 Material Girl 9 Angel 11 Into the Groove 8 Dress You Up 10 Live to Tell 10 Papa Don't Preach 10 True Blue 8 Open Your Heart 11 La Isla Bonita 8 Who's That Girl 7 Causing a Commotion 6 The Look of Love 5 Like a Prayer 8 Express Yourself 7 Cherish 8 Oh Father 7 Dear Jessie 7 Keep It Together 10 Vogue 6 Hanky Panky 10 Justify My Love 10 Rescue Me 8 Erotica 7 Deeper and Deeper 7 Bad Girl 6 Fever 6 Rain 5 Bye Bye Baby 7 Secret 7 Take a Bow 8 Bedtime Story 2 Human Nature 9 You'll See 6 One More Chance 9 Love Don't Live Here Anymore 7 You Must Love Me 8 Don't Cry For Me Argentina 9 Another Suitcase in Another Hall 9 Frozen 9 Ray of Light 9 Drowned World (Substitute for Love) 9 The Power of Goodbye 8 Nothing Really Matters 6 American Pie 9 Music 10 Don't Tell Me 5 What It Feels Like for a Girl 4 Die Another Day 6 American Life 5 Hollywood 7 Nothing Fails 8 Love Profusion 10 Hung Up 5 Sorry 10 Get Together 11 Jump 5 4 Minutes (feat. Justin Timberlake & Timbaland) 8 Give It 2 Me 8 Miles Away 7 Celebration 4 Revolver (feat. Lil Wayne) 5 Give Me All Your Luvin' (feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.) 7 Girl Gone Wild 5 Masterpiece 7 Turn Up the Radio -1 Living for Love 8 Ghosttown 1 Bitch I'm Madonna (feat. Nicki Minaj) 5 Hold Tight 10 Medellín (with Maluma) 6 Crave (with Swae Lee) 1 I Rise 7 I Don't Search I Find 10 Crazy For You 8 Gambler 7 Spotlight 7 This Used to Be My Playground 5 I'll Remember 5 Beautiful Stranger 0 Me Against the Music (with Britney Spears) 5 Hey You 3 Levitating [The Blessed Madonna remix] (with Dua Lipa & Missy Elliott)

Um, no it's not a decent pop song - Embers is a shockingly poor song, that goes nowhere, isn't instantly accessible, and is forgettable...and James was a terrible performer; for me, it was the worst song on the night and the worst performance too - and around 182 million people agree! I also disagree that it's better than most of the songs sent in the 2010s - not only is it the poorest performing, but it's also the worst for me. Just dreadful.

In a football tournament, like the World Cup, if England were to not score a single goal and get knocked out in the early stages, there would uproar, and the Manager would be held accountable and fired - so I'm hoping that the fools at the BBC who decided on this song, artist and performance, are fired and moved on - they are not fit for purpose. The song, the performance, and the artist were deserving of last place, it was bloody awful, dire in fact (and the worst performance for the UK since 2003), and the second back-to-back year we came last. So who were the people responsible for this fiasco, and how can we make sure for 2022 they don't have decision-making responsibilities for next year? We need a new team, and a new start otherwise what's the point?