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Me neither. It's got all the tedious inevitability about it that used to be reserved for X-Factor winners.

She died on a Sunday and they even cancelled the Radio One Chart Show because of it. That's how massive an event it was!

I don't consider it to be a Christmas song as there is nothing in the lyrics that is anything to do with Christmas. Yes, the video is about as Chrismassy as you can possicly get (I don't recall ever seeing it at the time) but we're talking about the song, not the video. Perhaps Frankie thought that video would fit as the track was released at Christmas. I associate it with Christmas as it was released then and it has a certain sentimentality often found in Christmas songs, but that's about it.

Fair enough but I would have thought that their income from this would be tiny compared to what they get from selling the current chart. In which case allowing Chart Stats to continue as I suggested would be a sensible compromise.

OK, here's an idea. Chart Stats is allowed to continue as long as it doesn't publish the *current* chart. That way it won't conflict with the OCC's business model of selling this week's chart to various media outlets. That's where the money is. Once the next week's chart is revealed, it becomes essentially worthless. It would be like trying to sell yesterday's newspaper. Who's interested in last week's, or last year's chart? Only us chart geeks :) This way Chart Stats could be regarded as an 'archive' site for chart enthuthiasts, rather than 'stealing' the OCCs intellectual property rights.

They would have a point if somebody was using the data for financial gain, but this is a chart enthuthiasts site. In retrospect it's surprising that Chart Stats passed under the OCC's radar for so long as they have always clamped down on sites like this who dare to use their precious data. Hopefully something similar will pop up in the not too distant future. OCC = Official Chart Cretins.

Fixed it for you.

I was thinking that it might be based on total shipments of the song for the year, even though there was no weekly chart as such we would still have some idea of what this would be. However it turns out that it's based on the sheet music charts. An important measure of 'popularity' that might well be but it's not the same as singles sales, which is what this list is about. I wonder how well the sheet music charts correlated with the singles charts in the early years?

How can this be no.1 when it spent just one week at no.10 on the very first chart? Al Matino spent the whole of 1952 for which there were charts at no.1!

Death effect: no.885 Clive Dunn - Grandad

10 weeks at number one in today's sales era would be pushing two million, never mind one.

It's not commenting on that particular genre per se, it's that it all tends to get rather repetitive. When I saw that you were talkling about Niggas in Paris I thought not *again*! How many times has the 'why can black people use that word, but not whites' discussion been trawled though? I think that's what get's people's backs up, not that you hate rap.

You don't have to seek approval, just suggesting you should stop going on about it. You know the reason black people are 'allowed' to use that word amoung themselves? Well it's quite simple, it is cos they is black. Call it irony, self-depreciation or simply because they want to take an abusive word and use it positively (see:queer) to throw it back in the faces of those who would insult them. You get an awful lot of flack on here and certainly not all of it is deserved but sometimes you are your own worst enemy. You have been going on for months and months about this, just move on!

It helped that Blondie were big in 1978/79, which was a high sales era.

That would seem reasonable. Out of the rest of them, I dunno. Most look like the type of track that would only trickle sell in infinitesimal amounts. Atomic Kitten & UB40 will probably get there at some point, and The Beatles as well. But of course if you wait long enough, *everything* will sell a million copies :)

Have you ever thought it was about time you gave this one a rest?

You cheap lousy f***** :)

I'm amazed at how X-Factor has boosted an already massive selling track like 'We are Young'. Who are all these people who are only just discovering they want to buy this song? They can't listen to the radio much, that's for sure. It's scuppered my long-held prediction that it would sell 950k this year and go on to the million sometime next year. This could just about push it over the million by year end. It's a good song so I hope it makes it and 3 million sellers in the year would be good too, I can't see anything else doing it.

Well there was talk on the lounge thread about 'revenge' posts in the past where people had voted down others who had given them low marks. So it's happened before. But hey, perhaps this time it will be different?

Popularity contests like this seem like a monumentally bad idea to me. It's always going to lead to arguments & recriminations.

That's awful, what a terrible mess. Definately 'so bad it's good'!

Ugh! Pass me the sick bucket....

What, the nutty boys are back too??

I really meant the Christmas 'period', so that would include iTunes gift card week, as you refer to.

The entire top 4 selling over or near 100k must be unprecedented in a non-Christmas week.