Marguerite

The XFactor winner only needs to release the usual mediocre load of tosh that is the winners song, and Robbie & Take That won't get a look in anyway :rolleyes:

Well Capital have it for today, so as Wills OS has a habit of getting things wrong, I'm gonna go with Capital I think :D

I wonder where this urban myth about Gareth being kept out of sight began. Surely there's someone amongst his fans who has common sense enough to realise (and challenge the fact) that he just isn't important enough for any mangement company to go to that amount of trouble, and even if he was, what the hell would be the point to it all. You couldn't make it up could you? :D

I hope everyone knows that Lizzies fantastic artwork are actually videos too. You have to access those on Devoted though

That's eccentric Will for you :D I suspect he found the whole idea of the pens so hilariously tacky that he just couldn't resist them ;) It's very typical of him really. Most people would be expecting some classy tat, so Will does the exact opposite and gives them the saucy seaside postcard type of tat. I'll be buying 1 or 2, 'cos I find them hilarious as well

I think we may well have a female winner this year ;) I liked Kate the 44year old, Then along came Samantha, the young mum, who was brilliant, but the best of the night for me was Nikita, what a voice, she blew me away.

I'm not going until the last 2 nights at Wembley but there's no way I'm gonna stay away from all the news :D I'll be there with bells on from about 8.30pm on the 12th of September right up 'til I see him myself ;)

We'll be turbo charged in a couple of weeks time ;) :D

Well yes, footage being the appropriate term I think ;)

X for X rated ;) There was a certain performance of Save Yourself on the summer tour last year which should definitely have been Xrated. Anyone remember it? I'm sure you must, but is their photographic evidence about? :D

It's OK I'm back on Devoted but I'm giving up with the OS :rolleyes: It's so slow anyway, but it just won't shift itself tonight.

I can't get on either, anyone else having a problem?

It's now re-opened again, obviously, it suits one or two to keep it going, which is probably all the more reason for us not to play ball ;)

Whatever the view of each individual that's taken part in this thread, they've been posted honestly and openly on a public forum. To log on this morning and find myself in possession of a rather nasty PM warning me off this thread, was taking things more than a step too far in my opinion. In hindsight, I should have informed admin, but I was dammed annoyed. So, if we want to talk about bullying, it's the things posted behind the scenes that you should concern yourself with, anything that's posted up front for all to see, can be judged by whoever wishes to read it. No body wants this thread closed, although I doubt there's much more to add. It was a discussion and as such, there would be differing views of what happened in the past (none of us are able to tell the future are we?) There's not one side of the debate that's wholly right or wholly wrong, it's just individuals opinions. I doubt any impartial observer to the thread (and there probably are very few) would pick a good or a bad side and crying foul to get the topic shut down was really rather sad. As I said, there's really little else to add now and without debate, the thread will die a natural death.

You know, I think that Think About It is my absolute favourite from Keep On

What a pity its father didn't ;)

The sad bast*rd will fit in just fine when we get to the 'w's don't you think? :D

If you ever send me one more threatening PM I'll report you and ask to have you removed from the site, IS THAT CLEAR?

Are you for real? If a mod has a problem with the way this thread is going, then it's up to a mod to tell us. And for the record, if you or your friends don't want Will mentioned, then stop the hell bringing him into the debate. It really is that simple. :rolleyes:

I'm lucky, I only live 10 minutes away. Sadly, I can't do any other concerts though, but as long as i get to see him a couple of times, I'll be happy

Ooooh, I'll be at Wembley too, both nights :yahoo:

Well ask your mate Hasso to leave Wills name out of it then :rolleyes:

Well then, it's certainly not the case that Will used the film to promote his music is it? Even you can't have it both ways ;) I'm at a loss to understand what these public perceptions of Gareth are. What were people supposed to know about him other than the facts? He was a young lad with a terrible stammer who entered a talent show and showed the public that his stammer didn't affect his singing? No big deal, there's stacks of people who have the same speech impediment and have a struggle to overcome it. He went on to come second in the contest, have a successful career for nearly 2 years, since when, he's left the public arena and we await to hear more. Is the public perception any different from mine? I don't know what the lies or whatever are supposed to be about. I've purposely left out one part of the CV, but even that cannot be denied. What happened exactly that you and his other fans think he got such a bum deal from the public then?

That's a little bit different Hasso as well you know, you're a member of Wills site afterall, so it shouldn't need explaining. The film was Wills work as an artist, the same as his album was, it wasn't his doing that both were released at much the same time, so he was having to promote both. (the film promotion was written into Wills contract, just like the album promo is). Anyway, it's up to the management whether they wish to make a documentary of Gareths speech problems for promo, and it's up to the viewers whether they watch it or not.

Bluebell asked quite a sensible question "Is there a market for ballads" and yes, considering the biggest seller of the last year was James Blunts Your Beautiful, there's still a massive market out there for ballads it would seem. I think the problem is, there's not been a big market for male solo artists, James was very much the exception, although both Robbie & Will have managed to hang on in there, a lot of others, and big names too like Daniel Bedingfield, have seen poor album sales. It looks to be changing again with the emergence of James Morrison & Paulo Nutini, both in the style of James Blunt I would say, so as Lily Allen and Sandi Thom are to the female market, I would think the male artists have to be at the very least, walking in the same footprints as James Morrison.