Filthy or Gorgeous

She did that 3 times this week. Until she cleans up her act and stop being so immature and trashy, I will not support her. If she doesn't, I won't. We blamed Kevin but look, she's no different now. I liked the fake Britney, I really hate this Britney. When is she ever with her kids??? She's everything I hated about Kevin. Many others make good catchy music. The personal excitement I had for Britney specifically is gone. So I'll see you all :)

Thanks, I know what the video is about but actually until the very last minute there's not a lot of storyline. Just Amy lying and screaming with some nice shots that represent happiness and sorrow but don't tell a story. Isn't the water Amy the one trying to DROWN her? She's supposed to represent the sorrow. The happy Amy wants to be happy but the other one holds her back. How is the shaking camera a part of the storyline? It just shows that they "fight". The spider. Is it numb just because it's frozen or does the fact it's a spider add anything else?

It really peaks at the end. I loved it. I wish there was more of a storyline but I still like it.

There is no way this album will flop. She has 6 millions guarenteed with the crappiest first single. When her image was horrible and she didn't promote she managed to sell 7M with a Greatest Hits album. Is this reliable??? http://showbiz.sky.com/showbiz/picture_gal...41076-2,00.html The direct quote in the end makes me think it's false. When did she say that?

I think it's really going to be like ITZ, just much edgier. I hope so anyway. Her R&B producers said her stuff was "next level", "special", "groundbreaking", "different"... etc. Now a few songs with Cathy Dennis and Xenomania, a few more with Max Martin (did you guys post that he was confirmed?), this album might be worth it. I hope she sounds better :(

She was seen smoking twice last week. In the resturant and with Paris.

The marriage she claimed was "made in heaven" is now heading for the divorce court, but Britney Spears is not letting this problem affect her comeback. She has called on the best UK pop writers and producers to ensure she is back on top form as soon as possible. Remember Toxic written by Cathy Dennis? Well, three tracks have already been submitted by her pen and the team behind Girls Aloud are also writing tracks for Ms Spears, but with a difference... Britney herself will be co-writing all of the tracks on her comeback album. She reveals: "I'm a mother now and I want to take control over all aspects of my life and my career. This is the start of a new me." Sounds good but stop with the cigarettes!

I was talking generally too :P

I love some of the names you mentioned. Looking back, Fallen had some cheesy parts ("My last breath") and ia lot of songs sounded the same, but the lyrics are still good. I meant to say "compare Going Under to Sweet Sacrifice" because they're from the same "Strong" position, yet GU is so much better - so it's not that I don't want Amy to grow with her music. Do you think Sweet Sacrifice/Weight Of The World/Lacrymosa/Call Me When You're Sober are any good lyrically? They're so specific and out there. Barely literal at all. Now change those tracks with the lyrics of Going Under and Everybody's Fool. Wouldn't the album be perfect?

Read what I said about Going Under and Fallen. Both of them are written from a stronger point of view about the same thing, yet Going Under is a lot better. Sweet Sacrifice is a hot mess lyrically. Be positive but keep it quality. Lithium is positive overall and written from a strong POV. "Lose Control" is plain garbage.

I took it as a song about God, so the star was already a metaphor to me. It could've been better, yes, but some lines are so strong there that I can't help but LOVE it. Especially the "all my fears turn to rage" part. Incredible. I haven't interprted The Only One. I get this concept of a life-after-death thing in my head when I listen to it. :huh:

That's the thing, I understand TOD just fine. :lol: It's all written out... "Out on your own/Cold and alone again/Can this be what you really wanted, baby?" instead of lyrics that are harder and more interesting to interpret, like "Breathe No More" which is amazing. The simplicity works for "Like You" because it's still a lot like Fallen, but doesn't work for other songs. What interpretion that I made was factually incorrect? Track #3, Weight Of The World is - according to Amy - a song about the pressure the fans put on you. Let's make a random comparison to track #3 on Fallen. WOTW is well-produced but lacks those intense lyrics. I love TOD, but when I put on Fallen... I get disappointed in TOD. All in all, I really want more lyrics like Origin. Origin was less complicated than Fallen but it was great. SS, CMWYS, WOTW, LC mean nothing to me. If it's impossible to relate to a big amount of songs on one album, when they could've been relateable with more thought into them - it does say something about the lyrics' quality. Can I relate to being a sad celebrity? No, but EF is written in a way it could fit to many, many situations - unlike other songs that are just too specific. Like You" is very specific as well but it's written so beautifully that it doesn't matter to me. Different strokes like I said, I guess. I think Amy is a great songwriter when she wants to be. TOD has some good lyrics but some could've been so much more and made it a perfect album.

Why would they duet? They're just going out lol. JUST going out.

I see what you mean but there's no excuse for Lacrymosa, Lose Control, Call Me When You're Sober and Weight Of The World. Avril Lavigne is better than that. I think "Sweet Sacrifice" is similar to Going Under, it's talking about an abusive relationship ("You love to hate me, don't you honey?" "Daily defeated by you, just when I thought I'd reached the bottom") and "seeing the light" later ("Fear is only in our minds" "I won't be broken again"). I don't think think Fallen was that depressing. Tourniquet and Haunted were negative but real and got you in the mood, and they were positive "Something waits for you to breathe again". I think Amy is VERY talented, I love her. But, I think that when she tries to write like she's in a strong position it just doesn't work as well, maybe because it's less genuine. That's the difference I see between Going Under and Sweet Sacrifice. Instead of just saying "I'm gonna forget your name" she describes the relationship perfectly. OD does have its good moments lyrically, Lithium like you said, ATILF, CN, LY, YS, etc. I just like songs I can relate to, not CMWYS, Lose Control, Weight Of The World. I think it would have been better if Amy had let us interpret WOTW the way we want to. Grimly Fiendish, you always go to completely different subjects when I talk about lyrics alone. Ben is a sellout, you may not like his production, but I was talking about lyrics. I think you're biased but okay.

Amy wrote Breathe No More? I remember reading she co-wrote it. "Like You" is great. The second verse sounds like something from Fallen. I don't think the lyrics are all that simple. Your Star, All That I'm Living For, Lithium and Cloud Nine are also preety strong, but the rest really lack something. Again, for Evanescence levels. Aside from Like You, I don't see how Amy took risks with the themes, except a few songs. And about WOTW: Amy said it herself the song is about dealing with fans' expectations. Not something I personally care about. As for Bring Me To Life, it had awesome lyrics but yes, it was too commercial. I know Ben Moody likes to make everything commercial but he's a great writer so I don't mind. "Going Under" shows a lot more emotion than "Sweet Sacrifice" when both of them talk about the same thing. That's the best example I could give.

Smoking is not good for your voice or what's left of it, Britney.

Yes, you just described Ben Moody's image. I don't care about him as a person. He's very talented. Nothing Amy wrote on TOD is as impressive as Breathe No More or the other songs they did together, at least in my opinion. You don't have to like him to see he's an incredible writer, no less than Amy. Like I said, just read the lyrics to Lacrymosa and compare them to any, and I mean any, song from Fallen. It's a simple break-up song that your typical pop/rock act could release tomorrow. That song might even be too good for Avril. Same goes for Weight Of The World which is a such a shallow song that should have never been written. Waste of great melody. I'd rather hear "teen-angst-ridden songs" over hearing Amy complain about past fans...boohoo? OK, so what song on TOD do YOU think is better or as good as Breathe No More and Understanding? I really wanna know cause you're underestimating a great (maybe the best in the band) writer.

Yes, TOD makes sense. It's just not written in a way a lot of people can relate to. Again Lacrymosa is the best example to my posts. Looking forward to read your essay.

Sure, it doesn't NEED metaphors if it's so great already. However, the TOD writing makes the songs harder to relate to. TOD is so specific and simple lyrically. Of course, by saying specific and lyrically - I'm talking Evanescence levels. Not PCD. Metaphors don't matter as long as the writing is sophisticated. By the way, I am not talking about the entire TOD. Just like 6-7 songs that could have been so much better had Ben Moody helped with them.

I was not comparing the specific parts, I used bits of every song simply to show how different the actual WRITING is - notice how I didn't compare MI to Lithium. The style. The clever, sohpisticated Ben Moody type of writing is gone. That's clearly shown in Lacrymosa, which is just OK but too simple "Now that you're gone, I feel like myslf again". Where are the metaphors? I can't imagine Fallen having a horrid lyric such as "You never call me when you're sober". I'm a huge Evanescence fan and I liked the album a lot, but right now I'm beginning to like the songs less. I liked the beats and everything after the first listen but songs die preety fast when they have no subtance. TOD does have subtance compared to today's music, but for Evanescence? Ben Moody is missing, unfortunately. I personally believe Origin had the best lyrics, TOD really pales in comparison. I listen to Fallen and Origin almost daily to this day, and not sick of them yet. TOD is great but it's getting boring to me because I can't relate to the songs and that simple writing. Even if I wasn't haunted by someone (as she sings on Fallen) there were enough lines that gave the song a double meaning that could relate to everyone. I don't think about the lyrics when I listen to TOD, (well, half the cd) it's like listening to a Britney song. The messages are far less intense as well. "If you love me, then let go of me"? Avril Lavigne could come up with that. I prefer listening to intense writing like Everybody's Fool instead of hearing Amy complain about how former fans are so cruelly mean.

Yeah.. it doesn't matter if she wrote it or not actually, but suddenly so many producers are confirmed and Britney's spending HOURS at the studio so often. It's like even though we waited so long, we still might get a rushed album. Maybe I'm wrong...

I don't understand how people can like TOD better lyrically. Different strokes, but aside from Your Star and Lithium, the writing lacks metaphors and is too simple. Track 1 on Fallen: Blurring and stirring the truth and the lies So I don't know what's real and what's not Always confusing the thoughts in my head So I can't trust myself anymore Track 1 on The Open Door: you poor sweet innocent thing dry your eyes and testify you know you live to break me- don't deny sweet sacrifice Track 2 on Fallen: Now that I know what I'm without You can't just leave me Breathe into me and make me real Bring me to life Track 2 on TOD: You never call me when you're sober You only want it cause it's over It's over Track 3 on Fallen: Look here she comes now Bow down and stare in wonder Oh how we love you No flaws when you're pretending But now I know she Never was and never will be Track 3 on TOD: Feels like the weight of the world like all my screaming has gone unheard and ohm I know you don't believe in me safe in the dark, how can you see? Track 5 on Fallen: If you wanna live, let live If you wanna go, let go I'm not afraid to dream To sleep, sleep forever Track 5 on TOD: Long lost words whisper slowly to me Still can't find what keeps me here When all this time I've been so hollow inside TOD is just too simple lyrically imo.

http://www.windsweptpacific.com/thecharts/...thly_102006.pdf It's a PDF file. It's a monthly report that adds new songs as soon as they're being recorded. Britney Spears: Kiss Me All Over (Written by Sean Garrett, Unknown) Love (Written by Sean Garrett, Unknown) Pull It (Written by Sean Garrett, Unknown) Red Carpet (Written by Sean Garrett, Unknown) I don't like the titles but it's cool to know she's already recorded 4 songs with Sean Garrett! I wonder if she didn't write the songs. :( The "Unknown" part gives me hope that she may have written the lyrics, while Sean Garett wrote the music. He's a prodcer so maybe that's why they know for sure that he had a part in writing the music while someone else (Britney?) may have helped with the writing. Makes sense? lol By the way he produced Buttons! I'm sure the songs are hot. "Kiss Me All Over" is the most recent song recorded, fyi.

Larry is his manager so that's more than possible.

He seriously wants custody? NOT HAPPENING.