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As successful as Ed is, he is not in the same league as Adele when it comes to global success. She has sold >50m with her last 2 albums, Ed has sold about 10m with his 2. In the US, X & + have sold <2.2m each. 19, 21 and 25 have sold 3m, 11.8m and 9.2m respectively. Even in the UK, you can completely ignore Adele's mammoth 21, and her 2 lesser selling albums still significantly outsell Ed's 2. This is not to do Ed down, he's phenomenally successful and will no doubt have further great success with ÷, just presenting a few facts.

Worst.Limerick.Ever :D

Set Fire To The Rain by Adele. Almost everyone would recognise it and I'd say the average person on the street would think it was a #1, but it didn't even reach the top 10.

I think it's unlikely that Ed will sell the 2.7m he needs this year to reach the top 4, but it seems certain that 50% of the top 12 will be Adele and Ed albums.

Adele's 19 should be about 30k (or one years sales) away from a place in the top 60 of all time then. The only risk to her being kept out that I can see is Ed's ÷

^^ Okidokes, I thought it would be something like that. The OCC make so so many errors on such a regular basis that I'd be more inclined to go with Gezza's figure.

How did you come by 4,200,200 total sales? The OCC put it on ~3.5m and 16th on all time list. Maybe I'm missing something?

I've got a pocket full of cheese and a garden full of trees. *yells* IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!

Here is my opinion on 19's chances of entering the UK top 60 selling albums of all time: When the OCC released the list of the top 60 earlier this year, Take That's Progress was at #57 with ~2.38m Now, even if Adele's 19 overtakes, there are, I believe, 3 albums that have/will also overtake it and will stay ahead of 19. These are: Michael Bublé's Christmas, MJ's No.1s, and Robbie's Greatest Hits. So therefore, I believe 19 must sell 2.39m to *just* reach #60 all time. It has currently sold 2.35m, and is therefore about 40k, or around 1 year away.

Yes Adele's 21 holds the record for fastest to 4m by a long way. It overtook 25 in terms of 'sales rate' a week after 25 hit 3m, i.e. 25 is the fastest to 3m, but 21 is the fastest to 3.01m :lol: It will also be the fastest to 5m by a long long way when it hits the mark in a few weeks time, just 6 years after release. So Adele will hold fastest to 1m, 2m and 3m with one album, and fastest to 4m and 5m with another album. Pretty impressive.

Yes they probably are. Either way, Hello is heading towards being Adele's 4th million seller in pure sales, as it will take it another couple of years to reach the mark.

No, I know what I meant. Sales+stream total for MYFML passed 1m in September 2015. I'm talking about sales alone. Make you feel my love had sold 955,055 pure sales just over a year ago, so if it has sold >800 copies per week since then, which having spent most of the year in the top 400 in the iTunes chart it should have, it will be over 1m in pure sales now.

Surely it should be Adele is heading for a 4th million seller- Someone Like You and Rolling have already been reported as having sold well over 1m downloads, and I'm absolutely sure Make You Feel My Love passed the mark in the last 6 months too.

Oh yes of course they are valid, but it still doesn't stop the frequently used prefix "poor" from seeming quite amusing. Nothing wrong with a little light banter :P

Hahaha, and poor Sean Paul couldn't give a monkeys what the OCC does or doesn't credit while he's swimming around in his pool of gold coins like Scrooge McDuck

Doctor Blind- I believe you estimated "Hello" to be ~845k back at the start of May... It's sold ~150k sales+streams since then, would you estimate it therefore to be over 900k pure sales by now?

Hello by Adele was released less than a year ago, but I'm sure it must be very close to 900k paid for sales. It will surely be the last ever song (by release date) to sell 1 million copies

Update from OCC: Apologies for the confusion - the album has sold 2.26m.

Doesn't make any sense. It's not in the top 60 of all time list by the OCC, and therefore has sold <2.3m. Yet the OCC is saying the 2.62m figure *doesn't* include streaming. I don't get it.

^^ Well last year Bublé Christmas sold 143k (mostly at Christmas) Jackson #1s sold 92k Adele's 19 sold significantly less than both of those, so they will be ahead of her 19 album for the foreseeable future as they both will sell steadily this year again.

Not quite, it's approaching 2.34m at the moment. Michael Jackson's #1's has sold 2.35m and didn't make the top 60. But I agree it did only miss out by a very fine margin. It should outsell 56-60 in the next year or so, but so will Bublé's Christmas and Jackson's #1s, so if nobody releases a new album selling more than 2.4m in the near future, it should *just* scrape into the next update of the top 60.

Adele misses out on being the only artist with 3 solo albums in the list by ~30k. 19 is in roughly 62nd position I believe.

Rolling in the Deep is known by almost everyone, young and old, and only reached #2 (Mind you, the average Joe in the street that doesn't follow charts would probably guess that "Set Fire to the Rain" was a #1, yet it didn't even break the top 10!)

All I Ask has already had a bit of promo and indeed would have spent a week at #13 in a paid for sales chart, so it's already had reasonable success as an album promo. I'd say Remedy or Water under the bridge seems likely to be a final single (if there is to be another single)

That's true, but some of those sales came *last* decade, as it was released in 2008