torresgirl

Jack is NOT stressed! Remember that people! :rofl:

Ha ha no problem. Its hard to get your point across in one or two line sometimes! I think we see things completely differently and that's fine. I must admit to laughing along with my sons at some of Mark's comebacks last night in the argument with Aisleyne. He can be hilarious. I just feel like if you are someone's friend you should tell them when they are wrong. Chloe last night defended Aisleyne and told Mark to stop despite the fact Aisleyne started the argument from nothing and very very aggressive straight off the bat (I accept your point that there may have been subtle things we cannot see) but I'm basing this on what we actually saw. Again I thought Brian was in the wrong and again his friends should have told him so instead we've had weeks of "Marc drove Brian from the house" with very little to back it up. The vote will be very interesting on Friday. On vote to save I think Marc would stay no problem but with vote to evict he does have a chance of going. As our conversation shows he splits people right down the middle.

I voted for Jack to go. Marc is back as favourite above Danny. Probably a mixture of Danny's press coverage and events in the house. http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/winner Chloe has crept above Joel :nono:

Sure I can see some of your points on how Marc is. I've said many times Marc can be irritating but for me the reaction and what he actually does is not in proportion. And I believe conscious or unconscious there is a definite herd mentality. What really riles them is they can't get the better of him, so they gang up, try harder and harder and make themselves look bad. If you say something often enough people start to believe it and they think they have strength in numbers. They have a group of "friends" and regardless who is right or wrong in a situation they stick to their side. That's why I love Joel he has his own mind. Even Sam to a point, she's much more rational. Harry in the diary room made the same point, they are just repeating what they hear and can't back it up. I can't remember who it was that said on BOTS that he's like a small child who is naughty but you can't help but laugh at him. I have 2 teenage boys and they were killing themselves laughing at some of the things he said last night. The phrase marmite was invented for this guy...

Well if they asked Aisleyne to start that argument that she got completely owned in, they are geniuses :)

Enjoyed tonight's show apart from Aisleyne. Hideous. Not even mentioning her means you want to row with her apparently. Maybe not mentioning her is Marc's problem as she has to be the centre of EVERYTHING. The sooner she leaves the better. "Please stop Marc" Chloe shouts! Nothing to the "lady" that started it. Carry on guys :) I did laugh when Cristian pushed Marc away during his confrontation with Danny when they aggression was coming from the other side. Interesting Dexter and Carole are talking about how the housemates have jumped on a bandwagon re Marc meaning one housemates hates him so they all join in. It pays them to make someone look much worse than they are in order to make themselves look better. Well its having the reverse effect imo. It was nice seeing more of Joel again. How stupid is Jack though not realising he was behaving that way as part of a task. Cristian will get eaten alive by Jasmin LOL!

Evict Jack Save Marc Win Joel Return (they are all pretty much awful) which is why I chose Simon

It called jumping on a bandwagon or following a winning team. At least they think so :) Sorry it wasn't all I was saying :lol: Harry can see what's going on.

Go Harry :) That's all I'm saying.

Fair enough we all see things differently. At least we can agree on Jack. Absolutely hideous. I just hope he doesn't escape again because Marc splits people and he will get a good share of the votes to evict. The way he behaved after Sam left the room last night was particularly awful and all because he was nominated.

What often happens when they see a one sided argument (like on bots) people tend to take the other side. That is what I meant by perhaps they want Marc to win by getting him a sympathy vote. (if you get 5 minutes look at the twitter feed because that is what happened after last nights show) The whole premise of why Danny and others are against him and what they keep harping back to regarding Brian is a lie. He did not drive Brian out. I'm aware other disagree with me on this but Brian was worse than Marc imo. Marc has asked them repeatedly what he did to drive Brian out and was met with silence. They can't actually recall it because he did very little. Same as when Brian tore into him for Jade going when he had nothing to do with it, yet who did they all (Danny and friends) defend? Brian. Its one of those cases of if people keep repeating something it become truth when in this case it isn't. Its not the fact that Danny "lost it" (although I commented before that may be his true colours) Its what he does every time Marc is mentioned in any way he doesn't agree with. He cuts into every conversation to make sure its reinforced Marc is a prick. He wants the whole house against him and his word is law. He did just this when Harry and Nick were talking about Marcs nomination last night. He interjected that Nick was entitled to his opinion but apparently Harry wasn't. Why? Because it favoured Mark. He tried to shut her down. Danny is a bully in a different way to Helen imo. He gets what he wants by turning people against others for his own gain. I don't dislike Chloe as such but she is a victim of what he does. Too scared to speak up and go against Danny when he was having a go at Marc for making Chloe cry. He did nothing of the sort but she was afraid to go against him and stop it when she knew it wasn't true. I've said how I see Marc many times and don't need to repeat again. I'm not saying he is innocent. But if you are asking me who I prefer out of him and Danny? Marc every time. I'm glad you can see Marc's good side though, that's all I've really been doing trying to get across his good side. Its being overlooked with everything else going on in there.

I took 10 minutes to look at the BBUK twitter feed and there seems to be an awful lot of resentment towards Danny himself and the bias shown towards him on BOTS. Firstly I am glad that a lot of people are seeing Danny for what he is, a complete control freak and a passive aggressive bully. But what I did wonder is do BOTS know what they are actually doing by siding with him knowing the public will react and support Marc who is the winner they really want? Or am I complicating this too much? :lol: This tweet hits the nail on the head among many for me. https://twitter.com/MrCrunchiebar/status/615778319330443264

Sam stole chocolate from Jack, that's an eviction offence in my book :lol: Honestly Danny please shut up. Just because you don't like Harry's opinion on the Nick/Marc nomination there's no need to try and shut people down. He hates Marc so much he is interjecting his opinion everywhere even if its not his conversation. It occurred to me what he said on Marc's first night "This is my house"! Actually Danny it belongs to everyone..

Exactly! Sitting there with his arms folded sulking like he is immune to the process. He really is delusional! You can just tell he has been spoilt all his life. Urgh.

Pleaseeeeeeee can we get rid of Jack?! His reaction after the nominations was akin to a toddler being ordered to the naughty step. Hideous!

Marc doing the birdy dance for no reward :lol:

Yes. Although I didn't watch Helen last year, I don't see Marc as anywhere near as bad as her from what I've seen this year but agree she may do what she does for the same reasons. She has a lot of anger! He craves attention. Sam's reaction to him is quite interesting, he takes the piss out of her constantly but you get the impression that she actually thinks he's an ok guy and its all front. In fact a few housemates have said similar, that's he's not a bad guy although he drives them crazy.

I'm not sure about that tbh. Surely everyone has good and bad personality traits? It doesn't mean they are fake. He went in there announcing exactly what he was going to do. I quite like that he sees what's going on and says exactly what he thinks is going on as regards to the house dynamic and why people are doing what they are doing. That can be refreshing when you have a group of people who are afraid to say boo or speak up for fear or being voted out. Does he go too far sometimes? Definitely! But I also see someone who underneath is a little bit insecure and wants to be liked. I also like his relationship with Joel. He seems quite loyal. I'm just not sure the majority he does is done with real malice.

Possibly but he's not fake. And he does have a good side.

Marc can be a dick we all know that but he's been the same pretty much the whole way through. Blunt and a wind up merchant. For me it was another one of those occasions that has happened a lot this series where people jump in too quickly depending whose side of the fence they sit on when not really warranted. I just feel like Danny is a bit fake. He's playing it all laid back and nicey nice most of the time but maybe its the real him when he gets so aggressive? Something doesn't sit right.

Watching behind but Good on Sam for calling out Nikki re Jade's eviction. Didn't think she had it in her. Danny is annoying me again after quite liking him for a short period. Telling people off for talking over people and he's doing exactly the same thing. Its like he doesn't like anything that makes Marc look correct to be aired. Tries to shut down the conversation. And Aisleyne is boring me every other word out of her mouth is "Helen" We get it, you don't like her. EDIT: Now Danny is telling Marc what he can talk about? Marc can be a dickhead but Danny resents him because he wants to be top dog. Its so obvious. There's just something about him I don't trust.

Gosh will this horror ever end. How deluded is he?!

Judging by crowd reaction tonight this thing is between Joel and Danny. Not always accurate but interesting. They got the most cheers.

Yes I agree. He looked like he was going to cry at one point, totally shocked to be in the bottom two. Which just makes me dislike him even more because he is totally unaware how odious he is! I actually didn't mind Showbiz in the end. Not devastated he's gone but there were better candidates for the chop.

Not happy at all. Jacks face with all the chanting and booing though. Yes we've sussed you mate!!