LizzieSarah

Sounds really good!

People can put their talons back in!

Perhaps a second album might be different but they seem happy with what they have done so Im happy for them - but yes they were always streets ahead of the rest. I officially declare this debate closed!

TT were always a good pop group

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apology accepted (haha)

Ah stop giving out! If you dont like something there's no need to go on and on about it - there are lots of styles of music Im not into but whats the point in complaining all the time - time better spent discussing what you like and being positive

Sampling is rampant these days - E.G Madonna - Hung Up. Nothing wrong with it if its done tastily and legally!

Well people that spend this much time talking about their work and taking an interest in it I would imagine like them somewhat. Surely your not here just to diss them? TT were always a good group and still are even if there's a big Rob shaped hole in it. But now we have Rob's fanstastic solo career and TT making records again so its all good!

Its nice to be nice! and yes I'm still a fan of the group!

Well it dosent seem to have been picked up on by this artist Nerina Pallot so maybe shes ok with it? We dont have all the details so I would advise people on here not to make assupmtions. All you guys are supposed to be fans of TT - so why do you all seem so hell bent on picking holes in their comeback project? I wish them well with it even if all the tracks on the album arent to my taste.

I would say TT's patience clearly samples the melody of this song but probably with permission - last thing TT would want is an ensuing legal battle with a comeback single. The lyrics in TT's patience are original though therefore differentiating their work from the above artists.

The 2 best songs on the TT album are What You Believe in and Wooden Boat

Jupiter I do however acknowledge that your comments were well meant and in support of Rob

I just think that people should be more tactful when talking about those with the problem of depression

Problem with the Gallaghers is that is that their tirade of comments boil down to professional jealousy and that jealousy unfortunately manifests itself in the worst possible way.

Jups - I dont like your turn of phrase "long history of mental problems"! A little tact goes a long way

Nobody knows if Gallagher did actually make these remarks - and I hope this article has been taken out of context or I would have to say shame on him for making such vicious remarks.

Fil Eisler! one of Rob's old muckers! I always liked Fil - he was with Rob from 1997 till about 2001-2002 time! He actually rejoined Rob on Rudebox - plays guitar on Viva Life On Mars

There are extras on the DVD's

Always look on the bright side!

Supreme - I have a Life Thru A Lens Performance for you - uploading now so you can show all your mates and send them the link!

PS: He's gone straight in at number 1 on the Music DVD charts so there is no reason why the album cant move back up - dont get disheartened by a vindictive media. I hope someone buys them Rudebox for Christmas so they can appreciate it for what it is - a gr8 album!

Jackie - ever the pessimist - Robbie Williams will sell at Christmas - mark my words. Acts in Top 10 for Christmas will be Robbie Williams, Take That, Oasis, Westlife (unfortunately) Beatles, etc. They are typical Xmas pressie CD's Besides he's still 14 which is not too low down to recover and make it back into the Top 10 - Top 5 even! and there might be promo stuff at Christmas with PSB's (not sure if that's correct so dont Quote me)

It will sell well enough but it wont be massive. Expect to see Rudebox in the Top 5 sellers for Xmas !