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I also find cataloging functions of MP3 players are annoying. Going through every artist beginning with A, B, C etc... and often each artist only has one song in there. Its fine on media player on a PC because they are all at a glance and until they incorporate something like that onto a Hi Fi I will not be moved from my CD albums and Mix CDs

52 and decreasing rapidly. Down to #5 Downloads and #2 physical on Amazon. #2 on HMV. Out of the top #100 on Play.

I have only ever damaged one CD in my collection in 13 years and I was 11 at the time and played it to death. You say you copy your music so it doesn't get lost. Take away your CD hard copy, what if your computer dies, what if you lose your MP3 player? What if the files are corrupted? You are taking a much greater gamble with digital than you are with CD. Then of course there is the fact that digital remains 'near CD quality' sound but not quite. Itunes vouchers are relevant here. We are talking about a world without CDs where albums would be 'gifted' through these vouchers. It remains a fact that people like things to be tangible. Look at the singles/albums CD difference. People don't care about the odd song to put on a portable device but if its a collection by an artist you love physical is the preferred way to go. Downloads remain a bit throwaway.

They still have a market share of 76%. CDs should never disappear. Its great to get a CD, an itunes voucher just doesn't cut it. Does anyone think the music industry is crying too much? Yes, album sales are down, perhaps because the albums you're flogging aren't great or you aren't promoting the right ones? Single sales have gone through the roof, there is still an appetite for music and paying for it. The problem in on the production end. Look at the year end chart and you'll see that they aren't exactly catering to varied tastes. The biggest selling rock album was the Foos down at 22, yet there isn't another heavy band with similar crossover appeal. Why? People obviously like that sound.

You mean the one for The Motto? Its out. Its tragic. Lil' Wayne is wearing uggs, Drake is in a leopard print puffa jacket

McMorrow's 'This Old Dark Machine' is better than Higher Love in my opinion

We could have 5 million sellers from songs of 2011. Crazy considering that in 2003 I don't think we have one

The biggest loser would be someone who didn't make the chart at all! You should be proud of what you achieved. You had no record label pushing you, no performances on national TV and no real airplay but got up there with Coldplay and Rihanna. No shame in that.

There are entire 90's nights in cities these days. Its the height of dance in clubs with Cream and the like so the music never goes out of fashion. MTV dance is also filled with 90s stuff as well. It has a nostalgia factor for me as I grew up in the 90s too. Yep, that's the one she performed. Just before the New Year fireworks as well which drew in 10 million viewers across the whole programme so she must have got a heck of a boost. BTW, I expect the remix used last night is bumping Earthquake and Viva La Vida

The one she performed on the Lottery last night?

New Years Eve parties too. Its on heavy rotation in bars and clubs

It seems you feel what I feel! :puke2:

It was like before Christmas when Little Mix fans were tweeting that they were Christmas number one before Christmas Day because 'it said so on TV' AKA, they were showing the previous week's chart

Most of the re-entries were on the End of Year chart show on Radio One. The rest are party songs for New Year

#17 Rihanna ft Calvin Harris- We Found Love (Download/ 22nd September 2011) UK Chart Peak: #1 tg00YEETFzg&ob=av3e #18 Maroon 5 ft Christina Aguilera- Moves Like Jagger (CD Single and Download/ 21st June 2011) UK Chart Peak: #2 iEPTlhBmwRg&ob=av3e #19 Paramore- Monster (Download/ 7th June 2011) UK Chart Peak: #21 PoTEnaAI9Fo #20 Foster the People- Pumped up Kicks (Download/ 19th June 2011) UK Chart Peak: #18 SDTZ7iX4vTQ&ob=av3e

#13 Deftones- Beauty School (Download/ September 2011) UK Chart Peak- ## rguh5NoCqnw #14 Lana Del Rey- Video Games (Download/ 10th October 2011) UK Chart Peak- #9 HO1OV5B_JDw #15 Noah and the Whale- L.I.F.E.G.O.E.S.O.N (Download/ 21st January 2011) UK Chart Peak- #14 fbGUEelmzxo #16 James Blake- The Wilhelm Scream (Download/ 3rd March 2011) UK Chart Peak- #136 isIABK-0ohQ&ob=av2e

Military Wives are clean out of the top 20

I'm ready to be impressed

TTWE is one of those songs that is so good it makes you wonder why the public didn't see it. I suspect because Britney didn't promote it. I suspect that she'll stop getting these great hits if she doesn't get them the recognition they deserve.

Pop definitely changes. 10 years ago Steps, S Club 7, Britney, 5ive, Backstreet Boys, *nsync were Pop, we now clarify that as bubblegum pop. (I don't know where that comes from buts a good description, its youthful and saccharine and doesn't fit as dance, rock or R&B really). I think it would be wrong to say the popularity of Tupac, BIG or P Diddy hasn't influenced pop. They were definitely R&B/Hip Hop in their day but their influence has filtered down to pop artists like Chipmunk and Chris Brown who use the same type of lyrics about ego, money, promiscuous women etc... Its like Daft Punk who are a pure dance band 90% of the time getting sampled by Kanye into the amazing dance/rap/ pop hybrid that is Stronger and then the floodgates opened and electro spilled out, Rihanna moving to dance, Gaga, Roll Deep, David Guetta's superstardom. Look at this year though, we have 3 boybands in this country. Two of which are doing old fashioned bubblegum pop. I'm not saying that lyrics on dance music makes a pop song, I'm saying that hard dance is usually characterised by just the beat. Think DJ Jean: The Launch or ATB: Till I Come. Dance is the genre that subverts the pop song the most from its Verse/Chorus/Bridge structure. How many dance songs have you heard that just repeat a phrase over and over again? Flo-Rida uses the Avicci vocal as his chorus and builds the pop song around it. Rihanna jumps on any passing bandwagon really. She was dancehall in 2004 when Sean Paul was at his height. Unfaithful,We Ride, Rehab, Hate That I Love You, Take A Bow, Russian Roulette, Hard, Te Amo, Rude Boy, What's My name, Man Down, California King Bed, Cheers, You Da One don't fit the dance criteria. Rude Boy and Hard nearly do, they blur the line more than the others. Rihanna's a half and half type of artist. Its really hard to take the 'pop' out of pop music but so easy to put it in other music. I'm sorry Griff. It does nothing for me. :unsure:

Mama do the Hump better not get a number one. It is dire IMO.

I heard 'I feel so sexy and free, like glitter's raining on me' and I had to stop.

I was trying to think of the last alt song to get to number one without a campaign and I'm thinking it may have been Sex on Fire by KOL in 2008 (in which there were three with Coldplay and Kid Rock ) 'Pop' is an artificial genre which empcompasses everything that is popular. When we say pop we mean its middle of the road music with tried and tested elements for maximum commercial appeal. So you get Rihanna who is doing Pop-R&B. Gaga does Electro-Pop which is dance music filtered down to catchy pop hooks. Then there is Blink 182 who do pop-punk which is rock music with pop hooks but they have gotten into harder sounds with their comeback. Its like Avicci vs Flo Rida, Flo Rida made that a pop song, Avicci didn't create the song for radio, it hardly has any words, its a dance track. You don't get more Rock than Rage. You don't hear Rage on daytime Radio One usually and even they edge toward Rock anyway. None of those songs are Rock songs, they didn't even chart on the Official UK Rock Chart. Wiki classes The Beatles as a Rock band and Pop because they are the godfathers of pop music. I don't even think they had a word for pop before The Beatles making them a Rock band by default but you can clearly see the difference between them and The Rolling Stones and The Who. Rihanna had a song called Rock Star where she dressed up as Rock Stars and sang that she was a rock star. She was about as much of a Rock star as Britney when she was in full leather writing on a motorbike singing 'I love Rock and Roll'. Paradise is fairly standard indie song. Beautiful People and Don't Stop the Party are Electro-Pop.

Vogue isn't really a 'dance' song the way these are. These all have pretty heavy electronic beats. Vogue is more a pop song that can crossover. Stuff that I think is missing: Paul Van Dyk- For an Angel Robin S- Love 4 Love Sash!- Mysterious Times Livin Joy- Don't Stop Movin' Robert Miles- One and One The Source ft Candi Staton- You Got the Love Alena- Turn it Around B15 Project- Girls like Us The Night Writers- Let the Music Use You Massive Attack- Teardrop Chicane- Saltwater Billie Ray Martin- Your Loving Arms Corona- Because the Night Belongs to Lovers Snap- Do you See the Light? Sneaker Pimps- 6 Underground Chicane- Offshore 97 Judge Jules and Pete Tong- Can't Help Myself Alex Party- Don't Give me Your Life Atlantic Ocean- Waterfall The Real McCoy- Another Night

I don't think certifications keep up with the achievements do they? I know The Fame is like 7x Platinum but only certificated 4x according to the BPI