Everything posted by John_Squire
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Anyone like Tori Amos?
No 'God' :( IMO the best single from that album, equal with Cornflake Girl (and I think CG goes on a bit much at the end). Under The Pink is fantastic, though. Favourites: Pretty Good Year, God, Wrong Band, Waitress, Cornflake Girl, and the sublime 'Yes, Anastasia' Don't want to get embroiled in a Bush vs. Amos row - however - I maintain 'Hounds Of Love' is NOT the best Bush LP. Of the ones I have heard (so not TSW and TRS), Hounds Of Love would be equal bottom with Aerial. Kick Inside is the best by far, with Never for Ever second. Lionheart I think is good, just needs some polish. Tori - only heard Under The Pink, Little Earthquakes, and Choirgirl. UTP>Choirgirl>LE, easily. Under The Pink and The Kick Inside are similar yet opposite IMO - Kate's is a young woman's view of things whereas Tori was over 30 when the album was released. Sort of discovering the world vs. being world-weary (that doesn't put it very well but that's the general feel), with both dealing with complex human emotions. Both are beautiful, emotive albums and I hugely enjoy both.
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PJ Harvey - 'Let England Shake'
4 weeks top 40 and hopefully will get 6 (maybe 7) weeks top 75 - not bad for a low top-ten 'rock/indie/alternative' album. Not bad at all. I think the first five or six tracks are easily the strongest (sublime). Not as good in the second half but the first half means it averages an 8-9 IMO. I'll give it the 9.
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the smiths vs pet shop boys vs new order
Uhhhhh.............The Smiths! PSB and New Order have some great singles but even with 20-odd years (maybe because of that) they can't come close to The Smiths' output in less than five years. Even Morrissey solo - and he can be very average, depending on his band/writing partners/the occasional less-than-stellar lyric - is far, far better than most of the other bands' output. Compare his 'You Are The Quarry' material to New Order's 'Waiting For The Siren's Call' for instance (their mid-00s comebacks) - Moz is infinitely better than NO. If it was Pet Shop Boys vs New Order (more apt since far closer in genre) I'd back the PSB, for their 85-93 stuff alone; never got that into New Order though they have many great songs. Add Joy Division to NO and perhaps they'd beat the PSB.
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Ultimate 90s Number Ones Rate
Ah. Well, Stop and Busta are far better than ILT. I'll let it have the weeks it beat Celine for. Extremely surprised how well the Manics are doing (at least, until the announcement of how well they were doing!). I would have imagined them to be a very niche band for Buzzjack! Their votes since the announcement is how I would have expected the whole thing to go TBH!
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LEAST Favourite of 2005s best selling singles
Shayne Ward. Not just 'cos it's X-Factor debut, I genuinely don't like this. One of the worst five tracks there. Forgot about the Crazy Frog - but then again I found it hilarious how well it did, so I wouldn't have voted it off yet. EDIT: actually, Shayne probably isn't worse than Westlife, My Humps, MVP, Sean Paul and Akon. But it is still crap.
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Sunday Chart Predictions
Didn't 'Life For Rent' by Dido get 10 weeks at the top in 2003? And 'Jagged Little Pill' come to think of it. I suppose they mean consecutive weeks, but they haven't worded it very well.
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Sunday Chart Predictions
Extremely surprised how well Duran Duran are doing! I expected them to chart at #55 or something, like their last album. I suppose the publicity about their TV special has added to sales - I don't see it staying top 10 but it should be top 15 which is really good for them! Also surprised at the Human League being top 20, but it will probably end up top 40.
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Chart comebacks after years in the wilderness...
He was on 'Stoned In Love' by Chicane which was either 2007 or 2008. Not sure if he was credited though.
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Ultimate 90s Number Ones Rate
GREAT top 4 for 97 :cheer: 1998 is pretty tough, even the forgettable pop is OK. 15 All Saints ‘Never Ever’ Classy as f**k 12 Madonna ‘Frozen’ Another one of those great comebacks 10 Manic Street Preachers ‘If You Tolerate This…’ 08 Baddiel Skinner and Lightining Seeds ‘Three Lions ‘98’ Best version by a mile 06 The Tamperer feat. Maya ‘Feel It’ :wub: 05 Oasis ‘All Around The World’ One of the best Oasis singles, seems to be forgotten about 04 Spice Girls ‘Goodbye’ 03 Jamiroquai ‘Deeper Underground’ One of my favourites by them 02 Robbie Williams ‘Millennium’ Definitely one of the best Robbie singles 01 Cornershop ‘Brimful Of Asha’ Honourable mentions: Cher, Mel B, C'est La Vie -2 Run DMC vs Jason Nevins ‘It’s Like That’ Never got this, and 6 weeks at number one? What did it keep off the top spot?
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Hate Chart
07 The Black Eyed Peas I Gotta Feeling 05 Snow Patrol Chasing Cars 03 P!nk F**kin' Perfect 02 The Black Eyed Peas The Time (Dirty Bit) 01 Avril Lavigne What The Hell -1 The Wanted Gold Forever
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Favourite Song Chart Week6
12 Wheatus/ Teenage Dirtbag 11 Dr Dre ft Eminem & Skylar Grey/ I Need A Doctor 10 Tinie Tempah ft Ellie Goulding/ Wonderman 09 Snoop Dogg ft David Guetta/ Sweat 08 Alexis Jordan/ Good Girl 07 Wiz Khalifa/ Black And Yellow 06 Parade/ Louder 05 Diddy Dirty-Money ft Skylar Grey/ Coming Home 04 Adele/ Rolling In The Deep 03 George Michael/ True Faith 02 Lady GaGa/ Born This Way 01 Martin Solveig & Dragonette/ Hello -1 Pink/ F***in Prefect -1 David Guetta ft Rihanna/ Who's That Chick? -1 Rihanna/ S&M -1 Chris Brown/ Yeah 3x -1 Avril Lavigne/ What The Hell -1 Cee-Lo Green/ Forget You
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What comebacks would you like to see?
Reading the comebacks thread made me think - what artists would you like to see making a massive, unexpected comeback? Here's some of mine: Ashanti - was de rigeur on anything rap/urban that did well in 2002. Had some decent singles out. Most recent big success was 2006. Maroon 5 - flopped last year but I think they still have it in them to produce another quality hit single (tbh Misery wasn't bad but it was no This Love). R Kelly - I dislike a lot of his records but it would be interesting to see him back near the top of the charts. 'Ignition' was massive nearly five years after IICTBTHOT and seven years after his last (crap) #1. So he's due a #1 in 2011... Girls Aloud - they've just sort of fizzled out. It's only been 2 1/2 years but that's a long time in pop. I'd like to wait a year or two and see what they come back with. Franz Ferdinand - had some success in 2009 but nothing on the scale of their 2004 debut. A storming single from FF would be brilliant. Kaiser Chiefs - another band that seem to have just petered out in terms of popularity. Granted, they weren't doing much different on their third album than their first. But that never stopped lots of bands before. Ruby may have been #1 but I'd prefer a string of singles like the ones off 'Employment' Blu Cantrell (well, why not?) David Sneddon and Steve Brookstein - even if just for the lols. Any Britpop-era band to reform and have one big hit. Sleeper, maybe? Elastica? Or a #1 for the Bluetones? And, finally, some random early 2000s acts - say Papa Roach, Sarah Whatmore, Sarah Connor, Sum 41, tATu, Nina Sky!
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Chart comebacks after years in the wilderness...
The two finalists in the 2006 number ones voting, Shakira and Nelly Furtado. Shakira - massive #2 (#1 but for Will Young), big #3, then low top 20 (2002), huge #1 in 2006 (HDL probably sold less in year of release than WW but it was as big if not bigger) Nelly Furtado - 2 top 5s in 2001, muted reception in 2003-4, huge success in 2006-7. I think these two are the most unexpected for me - if you said at the start of 2006 that Nelly and Shakira would have massive #1s by the summer, I would have doubted it. Not really a huge gap but I was really surprised how well Britney did in 2004. She had top 5s in 2001, 02 and 03, but Toxic was easily her biggest single since OIDIA. Everytime getting the #1 was even more surprising. From further back: Jefferson Airplane/Starship - not sure if they had any hit singles in the 60s but very famous and acclaimed - then 2 big hits in the late 80s
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LEAST Favourite of 2006s best selling singles
I prefer Shakira, so I voted for Nelly. If it had been any other of the 'Loose' singles I would've wanted Nelly F to win.
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Ben's UK Singles Top 10 Prediction Game 2011/1
1 (1) Nicole Scherzinger Don't Hold Your Breath 2 (3) Adele Someone Like You 3 (4) Jessie J ft BOB Price Tag 4 (2) The Wanted Gold Forever 5 (6) Wiz Khalifa Black and Yellow 6 (5) Rihanna S&M 7 (9) Dr Dre ft Eminem/Skylar Grey I Need A Doctor 8 (7) Lady Gaga Born This Way 9 (8) Adele Rolling In The Deep 10 (15) Black Eyed Peas Just Can't Get Enough Bonus 1: Diddy Dirty Money - Coming Home Bonus 2: 5 Bonus 3: The Strokes - Angles
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LEAST Favourite of 2006s best selling singles
Maneater. Be nice for Gnarls Barkley to win.
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Singles Sales estimates
At the same point last year (Mar 09 - Mar 10), what was the average for #1? I know there was that long run of the #1s selling over 100k, which included Cheryl Cole and RATM, so I'm guessing it could have been close to 100k?
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Ultimate 90s Number Ones Rate
Oasis :o 299 is amazing - I doubt we'll get any more 300s (maybe 1 or 2) as there are far more #1s in the remaining years than from 90-95. I wouldn't be surprised if 150 is enough to get some through - certainly for 1999 (unless the number of voters rockets!) 15 Olive ‘You’re Not Alone’ 12 No Doubt ‘Don’t Speak’ 10 The Verve ‘The Drugs Don’t Work’ 08 White Town ‘Your Woman’ 06 Various Artists ‘Perfect Day’ Best CIN song 05 The Chemical Brothers ‘Block Rockin’ Beats’ 04 Blur ‘Beetlebum’ 03 Eternal feat. BeBe Winans ‘I Wanna Be The Only One’ 02 Teletubbies ‘Teletubbies Say Eh-Oh!’ :P 01 Spice Girls ‘Too Much’ -2 R Kelly ‘I Believe I Can Fly’
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Ultimate 90s Number One Rate
Oops, my bad! I guess Take That will just have to do without their solitary point from me!!!
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Ultimate 90s Number One Rate
I'm more surprised how well Babylon Zoo is doing! It always seems to get hate along the lines of 'I bought it because of the advert but it turned out to be some grungy rock dirge'! I personally like the dirgy rock part :)
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LEAST Favourite of 2006s best selling singles
Maneater.
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LEAST Favourite of 2006s best selling singles
Patience...I'd be happy for Nelly F to go though, I prefer 'Promiscuous', 'All Good Things...' and 'Say It Right' by far.
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Ultimate 90s Number One Rate
First tough round! 1996: 15 Babylon Zoo 'Spaceman' Full version please! 12 Fugees 'Killing Me Softly' 10 Oasis 'Don't Look Back in Anger' 08 The Prodigy 'Breathe' 07 Spice Girls 'Say You'll Be There' Best of their 1996 singles by far! 06 Gina G 'Ooh Aah... Just a Little Bit' 05 The Prodigy 'Firestarter' 04 Spice Girls '2 Become 1' 03 George Michael 'Fastlove' 02 Baddiel & Skinner & The Lightning Seeds 'Three Lions' Prefer 3 Lions 98 01 Take That 'How Deep Is Your Love' -2 Robson and Jerome 'What Becomes of the Brokenhearted / Saturday Night at the Movies / You'll Never Walk Alone'
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LEAST Favourite of 2006s best selling singles
Pink this time.
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Ultimate 90s Number One Rate
Baby D :wub: 15 Michael Jackson 'Earth Song' 12 Livin' Joy 'Dreamer' 10 Coolio featuring LV 'Gangsta's Paradise' 08 Simply Red 'Fairground' 06 Oasis 'Some Might Say' 05 Take That 'Back For Good' 04 Take That 'Never Forget' ^ All of these could have scored at least 8 in previous years. After this, it starts to get tougher though... 03 Rednex 'Cotton Eyed Joe' 02 Blur 'Country House' 01 The Outhere Brothers 'Boom Boom Boom' Very close between this and Shaggy for the final point. -2 Michael Jackson 'You Are Not Alone' I dislike this track, I dislike the two R&J singles more but can't decide between them so I'll give this the -2.