mick745

Look all genocides are bad, Hitler's, Stalin's, Pol Pot"s, Mau's. We could go on discussing which is the baddest or least baddest.

Yes i apologise.

History has not been kind to dictators who try to conquer Russia, hitler should have taken a leaf out of Napoleon's book. We seem to be ranking who is the least worst dictator here, an "Hitler may have gassed 6 million Jews but at least he didnt let them starve". Wait - WHAT???? Remember the Soviets "came not as liberators but as conquerors" as they raped, pillaged and sacked the whole of Eastern Europe, committing war crimes as they went. Stalin was attributed to at least 20 million deaths of his own people on top of those who died in the Soviet famine, which estimated at 5-6 million. When the allies liberated the concentration camps and prisoner of war camps and the russian prisoners returned home Stalin ordered that they be shot - his view was they should have fought to the death rather than surrender as cowards. Total Soviet losses in wwii were around 27 million. Many more millions wete displaced. This was by far thecworst death toll for any country.

Whilst it is true that Bevsn was anti-fascist he believed that the best way of defeating it was to form alliances with socialist countries such as the Soviet Union and therefore unnecessary to rearm as he under estimated Hitker's military ambitions. The irony was of course Stalin killed tens of millions of his own people, far more of his own citizens than Hiitler did. I cant find a full transcript of the speech online but have cut and pasted the following: https://spartacus-educational.com/TUbevan.htm He argued at the 1937 National Conference that the Labour Party should not give any support to Chamberlain's foreign policy, including his desire to spend large sums of money on the military. Bevan believed that the present government could not be trusted to use this new military power against its own people: "We are not going to put a sword in the hands of our enemies that may be used to cut off our own heads." However, Bevan was easily defeated by 2,167,000 to 228,000 when the vote was taken. (43) Winston Churchill accused Bevan of giving the impression to Adolf Hitler that Britain was divided. Bevan rejected Churchill's argument that "the Opposition must refrain from opposing because if he does so Hitler will hear of it and be encouraged thereby. The fear of Hitler is to be used to frighten the workers of Britain into silence. In short Hitler is to rule Britain by proxy. If we accept the contention that the common enemy is Hitler and not the British capitalist class, then certainly Churchill is right. But it means abandment of the class struggle and the subservience of the British workers to their own employers."

Actually Attlee and Bevan were at first opposed to rearmament, Bevan strongly criticised the British government's rearmament plans in a conference speech in 1937.

Of course history is an outgoing series of events, with Germany's surrender and defeat in 1918, reparations and subsequent economic crisis laying the foundations for Hitler's rise to power but also don't forget that 1930s politicians having lived through the first world war were desperate to avoid a repeat. Churchill was a virtual lone voice warning of the dangers of the rise of fascism and a lot of the world didnt wake up to that reality until it was virtually too late.

Yes toppling Saddam Hussain's statue was toppling what it represented - the years of oppression.

The war wasn't a sporting contest - it was a fight for our country, our way of life and our very existence. The consequences of defeat would have been extreme. An attack on Churchill's statue is not an attack on Churchill, it is an attack on what it represents - the triumph of democracy over facism. That is why it is positioned outside Parliament, a reminder that democratic institutions are our very way of life, something we may take for granted now but came periliously close to losing.

A statue/memorial is not just a statue, it is a recognition that a person's contribution to the history of the country is so significant that society has chosen to recognise that contribution in this way. Nobody is suggesting that any politician, especially one who had a 60 year+ career in parliament made decisions that everybody agreed with all the time but whether the contribution made during the wars years outweigh any negative opinions. For instance is WWii the worst thing that has ever happened in human history? Therefore should somebody who personified the fighting spirit of the british people be remembered? Churchill having fought in both the Boer War and WWi did not even become PM until he was 65.

No i support a lower league team and have no interest in the premier league. I dont have sky sports and probably never will. I despise what the premier league has become and what it stands for.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/54570997 The County Championship groups Group 1: Essex, Warwickshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Worcestershire, Durham. Group 2: Somerset, Hampshire, Surrey, Gloucestershire, Middlesex, Leicestershire. Group 3: Kent, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Northamptonshire, Glamorgan, Sussex. How will it work? Each county will play 10 four-day games in the group stage - five home and five away. The top two teams in each group will go through to a second group stage called Division One. The six teams in Division One play a further four matches, with the side that finishes top of Division One crowned 2021 County Championship winners. The top two teams in Division One will contest five-day Bob Willis Trophy final at Lord's. The remaining 12 teams that do not go into Division One will move into Divisions Two and Three, in which teams will play another four matches

You could never accuse this Forum of not discussing the big issues.

A fun game is to find a song with the least Shazams. I shazamed "The Hawk Talks" by Ted Heath the other day - it has just 52 Shazams.

It is interesting to see the charts but a couple of observations. Why do people shazam a certain song? Is it mainly because they don't know the title or singer. So does that mean the songs in the list aren't memorable enough to stick in the memory, or aren't distinguishable. If you have sought out the tune yourself you already know what it is. Also, it probably reflects which are played on radio or tv shows.

I was going to marry Kylie.

It is hard to argue much with the list as a lot of the higher placed albums consistently do well in such polls. It would have been interesting to have had Bad shortlisted instead of Thriller as it seems to be more popular in the UK and would maybe have given Joshua Tree a run for its money. Personally i cant stand The Smiths or U2 but if others do then fair enough. Hope the beeb do similar polls for the 1970s and 1990s albums.

The albums that were in places 41-50 were: Bob Marley & The Wailers– Uprising Culture Club - Colour By Numbers De La Soul – 3 Feet High And Rising Diana Ross - Diana Eurythmics - Be Yourself Tonight Grace Jones – Nightclubbing Janet Jackson - Control Simply Red - A New Flame Terence Trent D’Arby - Introducing the Hardline According to… Tina Turner - Private Dancer

Numbers 9 and 10 received the same numbers of votes and were placed joint 9th. It was reported on the programme that Kate Bush missed out on a top 10 place by just 2 votes.

I have been thinking about this and wondered whether it was time to split the album charts up into 'studio' albums with compilation albums from artists having their own chart? I appreciate the difficulty in establishing exactly what is a 'studio' album but it would surely be possible to come up with a set of appropriate rules.

Gary Davies said on his show this week that this had received the most votes by a bbc radio show ever.

Personally i think Bad is a better album.

BBC Radio 2 have asked listeners to vote for their favourite 80s album. Although voting has now ended the shortlisted albums are here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2...-80s-album-vote Two questions: which would you have/have voted for? which one do you think will be voted ultimate 80s album? Results to be announced on 9 October.

Being played on Sara Cox's radio 2 show

BBC show Sounds of the 80s are holding a poll to find the best 80s album. Kylie's album - Kylie has made the shortlist. Voting closes midday on Wednesday 30 September 2020. The results will be announced on 9 October. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2...-80s-album-vote

The web planet i find unwatchable, it is just people running around in strange outfits for 6 episodes. Nothing of interest happens. Time Flight had good ideas but translating them to screen didnt work. The special effects needed were too grand for the budget available. Although the 6th doctor tv stories were weak he has come to be one of my favourite doctors through the audios. Colin Baker was shoddily treated but doesnt seem bitter about it at all.