DoBelieveTheHype

That's absolutely shameful.

So seems there was some interest in this from the other thread so might as well get started with the 1952-53 'year'. For the first year we'll cover we're going back to the very beginning. What was Buzzjack's favourite song of the first partial year of the chart and the first full year of the chart? Well let's find out! :) Tracks from Johnnie Ray, Doris Day, Vera Lynn, Nat King Cole and other big names of the era are in contention as well as tracks from Frankie Laine and David Whitfield among others who people of the UK were buying over the course of these 14 months. (For the avoidance future years will be the calendar year - it's just rolled together here due to the date the chart started being in November). I've made a slight tweak to the original suggestion by lowering the number of songs to choose as favourites to 10 (rather than 25) for these 1950s years with smaller scoped charts. Below are the rules, a full list of eligible songs and a Spotify playlist of available eligible songs. Rules: The song must have charted as a New Entry on the UK Official Chart (NME for this era) between the first chart dated 14 November 1952 chart and the 25 December 1953 chart inclusive. I've used the OCC website as the source for the eligible songs list - if you find an error please let me know and I'll post it in the thread for everyone to know about.As there are only 103 eligible songs due to the chart being a Top 12 in this era voters should submit their 10 favourite songs. The first 10 songs will be taken from any longer lists submitted. Votes should be submitted by PM to myself - please do not post them in the thread. Songs ranked No 1 will receive 10 points, No 2 will get 9 points and so on.The deadline to submit lists will be the 21 June 2024 at 23:59 Results will then be published on the 22nd/23rd June 2024.List of Eligible Songs 14/11/1952 - 12 - Johnnie Ray - Walkin’ My Baby Back Home (1 Week - #12 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 11 - Max Bygraves - Cowpuncher's Cantata (10 Weeks - #6 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 11 - Mario Lanza - Because You’re Mine (24 Weeks - #3 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 10 - Vera Lynn - Auf Wiedersehn Sweetheart (1 Week - #10 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 9 - Vera Lynn - The Homing Waltz (3 Weeks - #9 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 8 - Ray Martin - Blue Tango (4 Weeks - #8 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 8 - Doris Day and Frankie Laine - Sugarbush (8 Weeks - #8 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 7 - Frankie Laine - High Noon (Do Not Forsake Me) (7 Weeks - #7 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 7 - Vera Lynn - Forget Me Not (6 Weeks - #5 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 6 - Rosemary Clooney - Half As Much (9 Weeks - #3 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 5 - Guy Mitchell - Feet Up (Pat Him on the Po Po) (10 Weeks - #2 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 4 - Bing Crosby - The Isle of Innisfree (12 Weeks - #3 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 3 - Nat King Cole - Somewhere Along the Way (7 Weeks - #3 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 2 - Jo Stafford - You Belong To Me (19 Weeks - #1 Peak) 14/11/1952 - 1 - Al Martino - Here in My Heart (18 Weeks - #1 Peak) 21/11/1952 - 10 - Doris Day - My Love and Devotion (2 Weeks - #10 Peak) 21/11/1952 - 9 - Al Martino - Take My Heart (1 Week - #9 Peak) 05/12/1952 - 10 - Bing Crosby and Jane Wyman - Zing A Little Zong (2 Weeks - #10 Peak) 05/12/1952 - 9 - Kay Starr - Comes A-Long A-Love (16 Weeks - #1 Peak) 12/12/1952 - 11 - Winifred Atwell - Britannia Rag (6 Weeks - #5 Peak) 19/12/1952 - 11 - Jo Stafford - Jambalaya (2 Weeks - #11 Peak) 19/12/1952 - 9 - Tony Brent - Walkin to Missouri (7 Weeks - #7 Peak) 19/12/1952 - 8 - Louis Armstrong - Takes Two to Tango (10 Weeks - #6 Peak) 19/12/1952 - 8 - Bing Crosby - Silent Night, Holy Night (2 Weeks - #8 Peak) 19/12/1952 - 7 - Johnnie Ray and the Four Lads - Faith Can Move Mountains (3 Weeks - #7 Peak) 19/12/1952 - 6 - Nat King Cole - Because You’re Mine (4 Weeks - #6 Peak) 19/12/1952 - 6 - Mantovani - White Christmas (3 Weeks - #6 Peak) 02/01/1953 - 12 - Eddie Fisher - Outside of Heaven (17 Weeks - #1 Peak) 02/01/1953 - 12 - Tony Brent - Make It Soon (7 Weeks - #9 Peak) 02/01/1953 - 11 - Nat King Cole - Faith Can Move Mountains (4 Weeks - #10 Peak) 09/01/1953 - 11 - Jimmy Young - Faith Can Move Mountains (1 Week - #11 Peak) 09/01/1953 - 10 - The Mills Brothers - Glow Worm (1 Week - #10 Peak) 16/01/1953 - 11 - Ted Heath and his Music - Vanessa (1 Week - #11 Peak) 16/01/1953 - 10 - Perry Como and the Ramblers - Don’t Let the Stars Get In Your Eyes (15 Weeks - #1 Peak) 23/01/1953 - 12 - Tony Brent - Got You On My Mind (1 Week - #12 Peak) 23/01/1953 - 12 - Eddie Fisher - Everything I Have Is Yours (5 Weeks - #8 Peak) 30/01/1953 - 10 - Al Martino - Now (12 Weeks - #3 Peak) 13/02/1953 - 12 - Art and Dotty Todd - Broken Wings (7 Weeks - #6 Peak) 13/02/1953 - 11 - The Stargazers - Broken Wings (12 Weeks - #1 Peak) 13/02/1953 - 10 - Guy Mitchell - She Wears Red Feathers (16 Weeks - #1 Peak) 20/02/1953 - 12 - Dickie Valentine - Broken Wings (1 Week - #12 Peak) 27/02/1953 - 7 - Danny Kaye - Wonderful Copenhagen (10 Weeks - #5 Peak) 06/03/1953 - 11 - Joni James - Why Don’t You Believe Me? (1 Week - #11 Peak) 13/03/1953 - 12 - Dickie Valentine - All the Time and Everywhere (3 Weeks - #9 Peak) 13/03/1953 - 9 - Lita Roza - (How Much Is) That Doggie in the Window (11 Weeks - #1 Peak) 20/03/1953 - 12 - Buddy Morrow - Night Train (1 Week - #12 Peak) 20/03/1953 - 11 - Frankie Laine - The Girl in the Wood (1 Week - #11 Peak) 27/03/1953 - 9 - Patti Page - (How Much Is) That Doggie in the Window (5 Weeks - #9 Peak) 03/04/1953 - 12 - Doris Day and Johnnie Ray - Ma Says Pa Says (1 Week - #12 Peak) 03/04/1953 - 11 - Frankie Laine - I Believe (36 Weeks - #1 Peak) 03/04/1953 - 10 - Frank Chacksfield’s Tunesmiths - Little Red Monkey (3 Weeks - #10 Peak) 03/04/1953 - 7 - Johnston Brothers - Oh Happy Day (8 Weeks - #4 Peak) 10/04/1953 - 6 - Johnnie Ray - Somebody Stole My Gal (7 Weeks - #6 Peak) 17/04/1953 - 11 - Doris Day and Johnnie Ray - Full Time Job (1 Week - #11 Peak) 24/04/1953 - 10 - Nat King Cole - Pretend (18 Weeks - #2 Peak) 24/04/1953 - 9 - Kay Starr - Side By Side (4 Weeks - #7 Peak) 24/04/1953 - 4 - Guy Mitchell - Pretty Little Black Eyed Susie (11 Weeks - #2 Peak) 01/05/1953 - 11 - Billy Cotton and his Band - In A Golden Coach (10 Weeks - #3 Peak) 01/05/1953 - 9 - Eddie Fisher - Downhearted (15 Weeks - #3 Peak) 08/05/1953 - 9 - Jimmy Boyd and Frankie Laine - Tell Me A Story (16 Weeks - #5 Peak) 15/05/1953 - 12 - Winifred Atwell - Coronation Rag (6 Weeks #5 Peak) 15/05/1953 - 12 - Ron Goodwin - Terry’s Theme From Limelight (23 Weeks - #3 Peak) 15/05/1953 - 11 - Muriel Smith - Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me (17 Weeks - #3 Peak) 22/05/1953 - 10 - Frank Chacksfield - Terry’s Theme From Limelight (24 Weeks - #2 Peak) 22/05/1953 - 6 - Eddie Fisher with Sally Sweetland - I’m Walking Behind You (18 Weeks - #1 Peak) 29/05/1953 - 10 - Mantovani - The Song From Moulin Rouge (23 Weeks - #1 Peak) 05/06/1953 - 12 - Dorothy Squires - I’m Walking Behind You (1 Week - #12 Peak) 05/06/1953 - 11 - Vera Lynn - The Windsor Waltz (1 Week - #11 Peak) 05/06/1953 - 7 - Dickie Valentine - In A Golden Coach (1 Week - #7 Peak) 03/07/1953 - 11 - Ted Heath and his Music - Hot Toddy (11 Weeks - #6 Peak) 10/07/1953 - 12 - Vivian Blaine - A Bushel and A Peck (1 Week - #12 Peak) 10/07/1953 - 10 - Al Martino - Rachel (5 Weeks - #10 Peak) 17/07/1953 - 12 - Gisele Mackenzie - Seven Lonely Days (6 Weeks - #6 Peak) 24/07/1953 - 11 - Doris Day and Johnnie Ray - Let’s Walk That-A-Way (14 Weeks - #4 Peak) 07/08/1953 - 10 - June Hutton with Axel Stordahl and The Boys Next Door - Say You’re Mine Again (7 Weeks - #6 Peak) 14/08/1953 - 9 - Nat King Cole - Can’t I? (8 Weeks - #6 Peak) 21/08/1953 - 9 - Jimmy Young - Eternally (9 Weeks - #8 Peak) 28/08/1953 - 8 - Guy Mitchell - Look At That Girl (14 Weeks - #1 Peak) 04/09/1953 - 12 - Frankie Laine - Where the Winds Blow (12 Weeks - #2 Peak) 18/09/1953 - 9 - Dean Martin - Kiss (8 Weeks - #5 Peak) 18/09/1953 - 8 - Nat King Cole - Mother Nature and Father Time (7 Weeks - #7 Peak) 25/09/1953 - 12 - Winifred Atwell - Flirtation Waltz (3 Weeks - #10 Peak) 02/10/1953 - 9 - David Whitfield - The Bridge of Sighs (1 Week - #9 Peak) 16/10/1953 - 12 - David Whitfield - Answer Me (14 Weeks - #1 Peak) 16/10/1953 - 3 - Frankie Laine - Hey Joe (8 Weeks - #1 Peak) 23/10/1953 - 12 - Ted Heath and his Music - Dragnet (5 Weeks - #9 Peak) 23/10/1953 - 11 - Diana Decker - Poppa Piccolino (10 Weeks - #2 Peak) 23/10/1953 - 6 - Mantovani - Swedish Rhapsody (18 Weeks - #2 Peak) 30/10/1953 - 3 - Frankie Laine - Answer Me (17 Weeks - #1 Peak) 06/11/1953 - 11 - Eddie Fisher - Wish You Were Here (9 Weeks - #8 Peak) 06/11/1953 - 6 - Guy Mitchell - Chicka Boom (15 Weeks - #4 Peak) 20/11/1953 - 11 - Lee Lawrence - Crying in the Chapel (6 Weeks - #7 Peak) 20/11/1953 - 7 - Les Paul and Mary Ford - Vaya Con Dios (4 Weeks - #7 Peak) 27/11/1953 - 11 - Beverley Sisters - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus (5 Weeks - #6 Peak) 27/11/1953 - 8 - Jimmy Boyd - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus (6 Weeks - #3 Peak) 04/12/1953 - 10 - Ray Martin - Swedish Rhapsody (4 Weeks - #4 Peak) 04/12/1953 - 7 - Winifred Atwell - Let’s Have A Party (15 Weeks - #2 Peak) 04/12/1953 - 7 - Ray Anthony - Dragnet (2 Weeks - #7 Peak) 11/12/1953 - 12 - David Whitfield - Rags to Riches (11 Weeks - #3 Peak) 11/12/1953 - 8 - Joan Regan with the Squadroinarre’s - Ricochet (5 Weeks - #8 Peak) 18/12/1953 - 12 - Guy Mitchell - Cloud Lucky Seven (16 Weeks - #2 Peak) 18/12/1953 - 11 - Billy Cotton and his Band - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus (3 Weeks - #11 Peak) 18/12/1953 - 6 - Eddie Calvert - Oh Mein Papa (21 Weeks - #1 Peak) Missing from Spotify is Billy Cotton and his Band - (would be 102nd song) Only the first 100 tracks show in the above box, click into Spotify to see all tracks. Please use this voting template if you can: 10 points - 9 points - 8 points - 7 points - 6 points - 5 points - 4 points - 3 points - 2 points - 1 point - I think that's all the information you need - any questions just ask. Looking forward to seeing the votes. Votes Scene Jade Chartjack2 DoBelieveTheHype LastDreamer King Rollo JulianT Severin

I'm going to give two weeks rather than one week for each year to give people a bit more time to check out the songs. However that's is a good idea too! I'll still start with the 1952-53 year as I've pretty much got that ready to go now but after that will choose a more recent year. Can definitely see that being more interesting for people - myself included :)

Gonna go ahead and set this up, but reduce the number of songs for the 50s down to a Top 10 due to the smaller scope of the chart. As JulianT pointed out 25 is quite a lot when there's not that many eligible songs in the early years. We can decide whether to increase it or keep it as a Top 10 when we get to the 60s.

Tories have managed to field candidates in all but one seat. Presumably the Speakers? Unless there's another they aren't standing. Whocanivotefor is down so can't check. Edit - it's Rotherham they aren't standing in.

So we've got a Reform UK candidate for my seat now on whocanivotefor. No sign of a Conservative yet.

It's not up to the minute but it's update regularly on https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/ The big broadcasters will have full lists out at some point tonight I think. But looks like the Tories may not stand in all constituencies. On an unrelated note - the Tories have lost the Torygraph and going by the comments they're going to Reform. Worrying times. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/07...d-day-veterans/

So just over an hour to go until nominations and my seat has 4 candidates known - Labour, Lib Dem, Green and minor party Alliance for Freedom and Democracy. No known candidates for WBGP, Reform, Conservative yet. Will be interesting to see when the candidate list comes out if there's any paper candidates for those parties.

Not getting the hype at al for this.

It's going to be interested to see the polls that have been taken today and tomorrow when they come out - i.e the ones that factor in D-Day. The Conservatives could well be behind Reform, at that point seat distribution at the election is anybody's guess.

The idea was to restrict it to songs that charted on the UK chart in the given year.

I've had an idea for a series of threads but kind of want to see if there's much interest as it involves vintage music (50s and 60s to start with) and I'm not sure how familiar people on here are with older music to make this work. Basically the idea is to do a retro song of the year competition for each year since the chart was incepted (rolling 1952 into 1953 due to there only being a month and a half of 1952 songs). Basically we'd go through each year and any Top 100 (Top 75, Top 50, Top 30, Top 20, Top 12 for earlier years where it was only the smaller scope) song would be eligible (a list of eligible songs and a Spotify playlist would be provided). People would be asked to send their 25 favourite songs from the list ranked in order of favourite to least favourite and then the results would be put up and we'd go onto the next year. Once we catch up to the current year, we'd have one last round for the winners of each year against each other. Any interest?

You can borrow without spooking the markets if it's invested properly. Improved infrastructure from investment is a economic bonus. The problem with Truss was that she wanted to borrow to cut taxes rather than to invest which was insane.

The magic money tree dismissal is beginning to irk me - the only way to rescue our public services is with more borrowing - borrowing invested properly will grow the economy. The state budget needs to be looked at more likely a business than a household one. The Tories forcing Labour so far to the right they now accept this household budget/balance the books narrative since 2010 is the reason this country is in such a dire state. If you invest in the economy with borrowed money you promote growth and can then raise more money in taxes - only the Greens and other socialist parties seem willing to say this. We need infrastructure projects that will create jobs as well as investment in public services. If you need to borrow money you need to borrow money, cutting more and more until there's nothing as the two main parties have agreed to do is not the answer.

I don't think any party favourites are gonna want a Labour safe seat.

So - night before the general election nominations deadline and my seat still has no confirmed Conservative candidate...

There'll be no deal this time. The five way Workers Party / Reform / Labour / Tory / Lib Dem split could through up some very interesting results in even some of our safer seats. Could see Reform polling quite well in my area (north east) and even more complicated with Greens polling not far behind the Lib Dems and obviously PC and SNP in the devolved nations. Think a lot of seats are going to be won with 30-40% of the vote rather 45-55%. Might even see seats won with 20-30% in some areas of the country.

Sad to see so many people who clearly only care about personality and not policy. No one who cares about policy could vote for Reform.

All Summer Long for me.

Surprised to see her retire, always seemed like she'd be in it until she dropped. Wouldn't be surprised if she would have stayed if they'd not ruined the character compared to when she started.

4.8m. Down on the 6.7m the first Corbyn v Johnson debate got. But still a relatively high figure given overall ratings have fallen in general in the 5 years.

Good to see that Starmer's relatively poor performance still won the debate going by those polls. I think 4 July is gonna be a coronation.

Didn't watch it because I can't stand Sunak, but it looks from online comments Starmer hasn't handled it well. He can really announce policies because of the way Labour's manifesto making process works - it's created by collaborative rather than policies made up by Tory spads. I reckon Starmer will do better on the second debate, after the manifesto has been published.

I think they're banking on the reality that most of us will vote for them out of a sense of loyalty or the fact they're better than the Tories. The reality is most of us who feel that way live in safe seats anyway so might see a reduced turnout in safe seats. It just feels distasteful to be so brazenly chasing people who voted for the Conservatives after Cameron, May, Boris and only now think somethings wrong because the government is effecting them due to Truss's disastrous budget and the cost of living crisis. The worst excess of the Tory party were fine to these people until stuff they did directly affected them all through the Cameron years and the Brexit years. We really want to vote for a Labour party that's palatable to lifelong Tory voters? I don't.

Apologies for the quintuple post. Phone froze while I was replying.