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Also of note all the new tour dates for *2022* are being branded the Imploding The Mirage tour not the pressure machine tour. They have also said they have been already working on the 8th album. So my take is this is a passion project concept album, apparently quieter and more restrained than usual and they are releasing it as a whole album for that reason - like AM did with Tranquility, possibly releasing a single only when the album debuts. Tbh it seems like a bonus lockdown album, which I think for that reason might be their most interesting yet. Commercially though don’t have high hopes with this strategy.

Killers snubbed by Grammy’s and now Brits! 2nd or 3rd fastest selling album of the year, high critical praise, all 15 years into their career and not even a sniff at international group.

Has there been any indication as to whether they'll bring back International Group? Think its highly unfair they kept int'l male and female but excluded people from the chance of a Brit because they're not a solo aritst :unsure:

Thanks for clarifying - I was lost on that one. Says a lot that you need basically need a degree in it to understand the chart rules these days.

Sorry if I've missed an answer to this - I've been trying to find one. "Official Charts will take the 12 most streamed tracks from the standard version of the album, the top two songs will be down-weighted in line with the average of the rest." Why does it specify standard version of the album? Does this mean if, say, the standard version has 10 tracks and the deluxe 12, those extra two songs do not count toward album sales?

Thanks! I think it takes them straight out of the top 10 tomorrow unfortunately!

Sorry to be a broken record but where are Killers in albums in this update? :)

Killers #9 or #12 in the albums?

Do you not think Dying Breed is better suited to be the third single proper?

I think bands likes this really do rely disproportionately on touring to promote and sell their new music, so they will suffer the most with the collapse of touring.

Billboard 200 is garbage - getting views on a hit single on YouTube somehow equates to album sales! It makes a mockery of the album format letting hit singles be so easily translated into album sales. Shows the UK downweighting works better. They are #2 on the billboard album sales chart, which you could argue is a fairer comparison to their previous records that charted on sales alone pre Wonderful Wonderful.

Anyway to know if any Killers tracks are still top 100? Apart from Brightside! I think 'My Own Soul's Warning' and 'Blowback' were in the Monday update.

I see your point, but I just don’t see it as a messy line. The album chart is supposed to measure popularity of albums, not songs. If 5 Mabel tracks are on a playlist the chances are it’s not an album specific or even Mabel specific playlist, so the person clearly hasn’t chosen to engage with that album. Similarly, for a song I agree a stream is a stream, but for an album I don’t, an album has always be a specific and explicit way of consuming music as opposed to radio and singles and (now to me) playlists. I agree the user made playlist is a difficult one to get right, but I can’t imagine one album only specific playlists are that bigger thing which is the only grey area.

Overall, it has far more fresh talent, movement and a diversity of genres that the singles chart does. It’s not perfect but to me it’s operating relatively well with the 2 songs downgraded rule and the weighting of sales. It feels like it actually measures who cares about an artist or album. The one thing I think needs changing is the hits compilations. They can’t forever chart it’s wrong - a stream should count to whatever album it’s played from. If you choose Mr. brightside from Hot Fuss, that album gets the stream, if you choose it from Direct Hits, that album does. It’s the singles chart that’s broken! We decided not to include airplay like the US does, but hitting play on a playlist chosen by a big company now determines what charts - it’s no different to listening to radio. Playlists should be downweighted to the 600:1 ratio regardless of if the play is premium or free. The singles chart used to show what people had paid and *chosen* to consume, that is now not always the case.

Sounds like a technicality but I’m pretty sure the Killers announced their album was delayed and would not be released on May 29th before Gaga chose that as her new release date.

The killers

They actually said on their Instagram live last night they’re hoping to get it all on Spotify by this Xmas! I think some were Apple exclusives which has presented some barriers. Really digging the album! Strongest since D&A for me!

Just realised this only had a 7 week run in the album chart. Comparing to 44 weeks for its predecessor, and 71 and 168 weeks for the two before that. Steep decline :o

Have you not heard 'My Own Soul's Warning'?! One of their best songs in years, real Sam's Town vibes. The general view seems to be this'll be at the very least a better record than the last two, strongest since D&A.

So glad The Killers got a sixth week.

Anybody got any predictions on what this will do week 1? WW opened with 50k, in a better market, R1 support and a fair bit of promo. I’m gonna go between 35k and 40k.

Thanks!

Sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere - the reduced ACR rate of 200:1 sales, does this apply only to the charts or also to the BPI certification level and OCC total sales figures? Or does it only apply to charts and total sales and certifications are always based on 100:1?

Has Vidcapper permanently stopped the weekly YTD albums? ☹️

Cool thanks.