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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
Jark has a point.. PMing each other is also an option... Kath, Charlie, can we not have the Perspectives forum turning into a slanging off match between you guys..? Cheers.... :)
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
Yeah, well, there was a lot of opposition to the tripling of tuition fees as well though..... And the sales of the sports fields is a done deal, sadly.... Ca-Moron has been busying himself blaming the teachers for the "necessity" to scrap the targets though, how typical.... -_- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9...hool-sport.html
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
To be fair, Charlie's alright when it comes to most things, he's a pretty good poster.. But, does seem to be taking the (valid) criticisms of the Olympics far too personally... I know someone who works at LOCOG, get them away from work and get a few drinks down them in the pub, and the expletives that come out concerning Boris, G4S and Lord Coe would honestly turn the air blue..... :lol: :lol:
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Single-mums and muggers
He's coming across as a bit of prat here tbh, but there are certain things he's kind of right about, the CCTV and the increasingly restrictive laws for instance....
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
Why are you attributing that quote to me, it was from the article I pasted... :huh: So, take it up with the reporter who wrote it, and not me...
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
Keep drinking the Kool Aid, and be distracted by the bright, shiny object whilst the "government" sells off schools playing fields and scraps schools sports targets thus surely making the next generations of working class athletes like the Jessica Ennises and Mo Farahs more difficult to actually come through, yeah, the "Olympic Legacy", eh...... -_- As for Boris Johnson, that shameless media whore. Schmoozing around with Emperor Murdoch of the Sith, BoJo is clearly using the games as a tool to get himself elected as Tory leader..... Dont ask me to just "enjoy the sport" when all this shit is going on right beneath our noses, maybe you can just forget about it all, but some of us swim a bit deeper than just the shallow end, know what I mean.....?
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
The Opening ceremony was "pretty" and nice to look at, but I'm not falling for the whole "This is for Everyone" schtick... Danny Boyle has become very good at manipulating emotions with artifice and not much substance, a casual look at his last few films would tell you that ("Slumdog Millionaire" in particular is SOOOOO over-rated, IMO), long gone is the firebrand who made "Trainspotting"... Yes, I am cynical about the games, because I actually LIVE in London and have seen the negative effects on local small businesses, people in the area, I've seen peoples' rents in Stratford and Bow TRIPLE in the space of a year, more or less because greedy scumbag land-lords and estate agents want to cash in and attempt to gentrify that part of London (yeah, good luck with that one given that area has been dubbed the "Murder Mile End Road"); and I know personally several people who live within blast radius of one of those bloody missile batteries.... I made my comment about how I wished the games could be, a genuine celebration of sporting prowess, and not some excuse for the corporations to cash-in or politicians to make political capital out of... Nope, to most of us here in London, it's all a load of expensive crap, Bread and Circuses... Only, without the bread obviously, seeing as how you cant take a sandwich into any of the venues because it might upset Muck-Donalds.... I did get a good old laugh at Boris though, dangling on the wire... It just perfectly encapsulates the omnishambles that has happened with regards to much of the organisation, actually, if the wire had broken or become unsecured and he'd landed on his arse it would've been the perfect metaphor for G4S....
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
I missed that, mainly because it was on the previous page and Jark writes in such microscopic writing it can sometimes be easy to miss a post by him....
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
What 'valid point'....?
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
Wayhey... Now Boris Johnson has invited the Prince of Darkness himself, Rupert Murdoch along for an Olympig scmooze-athon during Becky Adkington's bid to retain her 800m medal on Friday... I'm sure she'll be chuffed to have that c'nt coming along to watch her.... Not that she would be allowed to say anything either way of course.... Is there nothing Boris the shameless whore won't do to curry favour with those influential people who might help him become Tory leader....? Doesn't really get much clearer that politicians are just using the games for their own ambitions.... And people wonder why I don't like 'em....
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
I've not really got anything against anyone on this site, well, Crazy Chris, aside.... I give the nicknames to politicians, corporate types, dignitaries, etc, as appropriate... You notice that I don't criticise any of the athletes, mainly because they've been shit on too with the whole signing of that big contract thing which basically took away their human right to free speech.. Anyway, you can say what you like about me shitting on the games, no one has done more than the IOC, LOCOG, the Corporate "sponsors'' and arseholes like Lord Coe to shit on the whole ideal of the Olympic spirit... If it was just about the sport, then I would have no issues with it, but all the shit that seems to go along with it, is just ridiculous....
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
I kind of agree with the general point you're making Kath. But, I'm also objecting to the fact that tickets have been sold for absolutely outrageous prices that the vast majority of Londoners cant afford, and now we're seeing these "reserved" and "expensive" seats left empty.. It's just a ridiculous situation, when you consider the whole exercise is supposedly about creating a "Legacy" for the people of East London and ordinary Brits generally..... Here's an actual quote from Lord Coe-Ca Cola.... "I was at the Beijing games in 2008, and one of the things we took away from that is that full stadia create the best atmosphere.....". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, no shit Sherlock...... And here's this rather hilarious article concerning the Olympigs "Brand Police"... (the picture that goes along with this article is priceless...) http://dangerousminds.net/comments/how_to_...cs_brand_police
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
Well, shouldn't they actually know the precise figures anyway... ? Why are you so keen to uncritically defend these Olympig assholes...? I have to say, your Sig is incredibly ironic... Almost as ironic as Dave Cameron saying "we're all in this together"...
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
Big oops.... Especially given that most media outlets are Corporations too.... Lol Still, I'm not surprised the IOC are pathetically trying to put a spin on it.. And, define a "handful" anyway Mr Adams....
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The Olympics - Elite sport, or just sport for the elites?
That's some amazing logic there Tirren... And, if you honestly think that these games benefit any of the ordinary people in the area, I suggest you come and talk to local people whose businesses have been destroyed, tenants who have seen massive hikes in their rents and the council tenants who have been forced to put up with missiles on their roof, not to mention commuters being grossly inconvenienced by the 'Zil' lanes... And, at the weekend we had cyclists being kettles by the Met when they protested about cycle lanes being adversely affected... This was not how things were supposed to go when Livingstone and Blair sold the idea...