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Lizzyyyyyyyyyy! :wub:

Just here to be the person who types 'Lizzy!' with a bunch of y's because 2022 me is still reeling trying to process all this.

I'm still skeptical of it being payola and not just a weird algorithm quirk. Like, the whole point of astroturfing is for it to not be obvious so I can't say this is really doing the trick. But either way from that perspective I'm not convinced of the long term plan. If the whole point is to gain leverage to convince Spotify to add songs to their big playlists, I can't imagine they're too keen on it (and the way "Nonsense" has been shoved down a lot of those playlists since seems to imply this isn't something with long term prospects, unless that one is a failed experiment). In any case, almost everything owes its long term success to playlists and algorithms which can go away shockingly fast if Spotify decides they don't like you anymore. Everyone has to play the game even if some are better at hiding it than others.

*incoherent grumbles about superior single version being deleted from DSPs* P!nk actually climbed in Australia today but that might be her tour announcement offsetting things

The fact that RAYE is independent kind of validates her doing whatever she's doing, the deck is so stacked against you from the outset (and she's already had a week at #1 taken away by a more egregious major label artist this year!)

+5 RAYE & 070 Shake - Escapism. +4 SZA - Kill Bill +3 Headie One - Martin's Sofa +2 Miguel - Sure Thing +1 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin' -1 Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down -2 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero -3 Miley Cyrus - Flowers -4 venbee & goddard. - messy in heaven -5 Central Cee - LET GO really solid top 10

I'm just glad there's only one subsidiary label that's done anything paramount to being cancelled, otherwise it'd be a lot harder to listen to music!

Yeah interesting shout! I don't think I realised until now that its huge success was exclusive to Australia* so it looks largely glossed over as a lesser hit on the back end of her Greatest Hits, but for me it's definitely one of her most recognisable songs. *Well US success is complicated because country hits weren't properly counted in the '90s and it wasn't until she started deliberately making pop crossover versions that she was properly represented on the Hot 100.

Incumbent P!nk album, still at #1 on week 4. I'd guess "Love Again" would be higher if Hot Hits Australia weren't a little slow to adding it (though Australia in general always feels a couple days behind the pace on new releases). And I guess maybe if ARIA had ACR he could be close to the top 5 :lol:

06/02/2023 Singles 01 01 03 01 FLOWERS Miley Cyrus 02 02 08 01 KILL BILL SZA 03 03 09 03 ESCAPISM. RAYE feat. 070 Shake 04 RE 20 04 SAY NOTHING Flume feat. MAY-A 05 04 19 01 UNHOLY Sam Smith feat. Kim Petras 06 05 15 01 ANTI-HERO Taylor Swift 07 06 17 04 MISS YOU Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz 08 17 24 04 B.O.T.A. (BADDEST OF THEM ALL) Eliza Rose & Interplanetary Criminal 09 07 09 07 CREEPIN' Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage 10 10 15 03 MADE YOU LOOK Meghan Trainor 11 08 35 02 I AIN'T WORRIED OneRepublic 12 09 23 01 I'M GOOD (BLUE) David Guetta feat. Bebe Rexha 13 21 30 03 BAD HABIT Steve Lacy 14 NE 01 14 LOVE AGAIN The Kid Laroi 15 11 44 01 AS IT WAS Harry Styles 16 14 24 12 UNTIL I FOUND YOU Stephen Sanchez & Em Beihold 17 15 02 15 SURE THING Miguel 18 13 09 13 10:35 Tiësto & Tate McRae 19 12 07 11 LET GO Central Cee 20 20 22 19 CALM DOWN Rema & Selena Gomez 21 26 25 08 CUFF IT Beyoncé 22 16 29 15 SOMETHING IN THE ORANGE Zach Bryan 23 18 129 01 HEAT WAVES Glass Animals 24 23 22 14 HOW DO I SAY GOODBYE Dean Lewis 25 25 13 03 RICH FLEX Drake & 21 Savage 26 19 77 01 COLD HEART (PNAU REMIX) Elton John & Dua Lipa 27 31 82 01 STAY The Kid Laroi and Justin Bieber 28 24 35 08 SUNROOF Nicky Youre & dazy 29 27 24 11 2 BE LOVED (AM I READY) Lizzo 30 36 30 21 THE KIND OF LOVE WE MAKE Luke Combs 31 53 03 31 PLAYERS Coi Leray 32 48 40 03 ABOUT DAMN TIME Lizzo 33 30 22 29 GOLDEN HOUR JVKE 34 28 73 02 SHIVERS Ed Sheeran 35 41 35 07 I LIKE YOU (A HAPPIER SONG) Post Malone feat. Doja Cat 36 29 38 21 ANOTHER LOVE Tom Odell 37 43 18 21 STAR WALKIN' Lil Nas X 38 33 22 29 FERRARI James Hype & Miggy Dela Rosa 39 46 04 39 THE COLOR VIOLET Tory Lanez 40 42 108 03 SAVE YOUR TEARS The Weeknd 41 37 84 01 BAD HABITS Ed Sheeran 42 35 29 20 SNAP Rosa Linn 43 39 136 23 MR. BRIGHTSIDE The Killers 44 34 21 21 FORGET ME Lewis Capaldi 45 44 05 44 HERE WITH ME d4vd 46 49 27 38 DIE FOR YOU The Weeknd 47 38 26 19 AFRAID TO FEEL LF System 48 70 14 02 LAVENDER HAZE Taylor Swift 49 100 30 01 GLIMPSE OF US Joji 50 54 11 39 JUST WANNA ROCK Lil Uzi Vert Albums 01 NE 01 01 GLORIA Sam Smith 02 02 15 01 MIDNIGHTS Taylor Swift 03 01 08 01 SOS SZA 04 03 104 02 THE HIGHLIGHTS The Weeknd 05 38 32 01 HERE COMES EVERYBODY Spacey Jane 06 05 37 01 HARRY'S HOUSE Harry Styles 07 04 243 03 DIAMONDS Elton John 08 09 183 01 STARBOY The Weeknd 09 07 367 01 CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS Eminem 10 06 09 05 HEROES & VILLAINS Metro Boomin' 11 10 149 01 FUTURE NOSTALGIA Dua Lipa 12 13 255 07 THIS ONE'S FOR YOU Luke Combs 13 08 240 01 AM Arctic Monkeys 14 12 89 01 SOUR Olivia Rodigo 15 11 14 05 THE ESSENTIAL Foo Fighters 16 15 432 01 1989 Taylor Swift 17 14 169 01 WHAT YOU SEE AIN'T ALWAYS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 18 16 295 14 SINGLES COLLECTION Maroon 5 19 18 309 01 ÷ Ed Sheeran 20 17 164 01 FINE LINE Harry Styles 21 19 26 02 CURTAIN CALL 2 Eminem 22 20 412 02 RUMOURS Fleetwood Mac 23 25 180 01 LOVER Taylor Swift 24 21 66 01 = Ed Sheeran 25 32 132 01 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 26 NE 01 26 FRAGMENTS - TIME OUT OF MIND SESSIONS (1996-1997): THE BOOTLEG SERIES Bob Dylan 27 26 201 01 WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? Billie Eilish 28 24 32 02 GROWIN' UP Luke Combs 29 23 147 01 AFTER HOURS The Weeknd 30 22 108 02 DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM Morgan Wallen 31 NE 01 31 DIAMONDS & DANCEFLOORS Ava Max 32 47 479 02 GREATEST HITS Red Hot Chili Peppers 33 28 13 02 HER LOSS Drake & 21 Savage 34 30 34 15 LOOK AT ME: THE ALBUM XXXTentacion 35 40 79 01 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 36 35 350 01 TEENAGE DREAM: THE COMPLETE CONFECTION Katy Perry 37 NE 01 37 LET'S START HERE. Lil Yachty 38 31 273 01 REPUTATION Taylor Swift 39 29 84 02 PLANET HER Doja Cat 40 34 194 07 DIVINELY UNINSPIRED TO A HELLISH EXTENT Lewis Capaldi 41 33 262 01 THE EMINEM SHOW Eminem 42 56 176 01 HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING Post Malone 43 36 224 01 BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK) Queen 44 61 131 01 F*CK LOVE (OVER YOU) The Kid Laroi 45 44 15 36 STUDIO ALBUMS ABBA 46 43 135 01 SHOOT FOR THE STARS, AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 47 39 212 23 GOOD KID, M.A.A.D. CITY Kendrick Lamar 48 41 133 01 CURRENTS Tame Impala 49 46 181 18 LIVE IN BUENOS AIRES Coldplay 50 42 270 08 DUA LIPA Dua Lipa Third week at #1 for "Flowers". When I said that it wasn't slowing down very much last week, that turned out to be the opposite of prescient because the song is tanking streams pretty hard lately. Not hard enough to threaten its position at all, but hey, maybe the End Of Year #1 Single isn't as wrapped up as it might have seemed. triple j's Hottest 100 happened a bit over a week ago and it's once again a great time to be Flume, who tends to have a visible benefit on the ARIA Chart from it on most years. He topped the poll back in 2016 but in what to me feels like the doldrums of playlist engineered charts of the time didn't have a drastic effect. His 2019 runner up "Rushing Back" actually got quite a bit higher and became a top 10 hit. That's happened again this year for "Say Nothing" which is now his 2nd highest charting single ever, behind #1 hit "Never Be Like You" of course. It's also the first Australian song to hit the top 10 in quite a bit of time, as we haven't seen one since "Glimpse Of Us" departed from those ranks about 5 months ago. We'll likely get another next week as The Kid LAROI looks to jump up with "Love Again", this week's highest debut. It's a good week for those particular consonant sounds too as we also have a top 50 debut for Coi Leray, who has never charted before. I don't know who needs to hear this but "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five is an absolute classic and worth hearing if it's eluded your life. The MC on the track, Melle Mel, scored a #1 hit here in 2015 with "Downtown". Sam Smith scores a second #1 album, and first to debut at pole position. We are assured chaos as Taylor Swift jumps back ahead of SZA and I couldn't tell you where they're gonna settle next week. If there's one thing to know about me it's that I'm an avid Hottest 100 nerd/historian/collector/whatnot. A funny thing happened this year because in addition to the first two singles polling last year, Spacey Jane picked up another 6 entries this year, all 8 coming from their second album. It was pretty clear to me that it actually was cheaper to just buy the whole album than cherry pick each individual entry. I'm not saying that anyone else did this but Spacey Jane don't quite crack the ARIA top 50 singles chart, and instead vault back into the top 5 of the albums chart. Elsewhere this week, Bob Dylan continues to chart with the Bootleg Series, almost reaching up to the point in time when they started. Ava Max hasn't really had any singles chart success lately outside of "The Motto" but she does manage to chart again with her 2nd album, having previously made the top 10 with her first. We've also got the return for legendary US prog rock act Lil Yachty, charting just 1 spot lower than their only other entry, "Lil Boat" from 2018. There's a climb for Red Hot Chili Peppers and re-entry for Post Malone, as a prelude to further action next week as they're currently touring together.

Was curious about this and looked into it. It does seem like that sort of mass music video watching peaked around 2018, just in the space of that year 13 different music videos hit 1 billion views. In 2022, not including "Baby Shark", the most viewed music video is one T-Series uploaded over a decade ago that's raking in a lot of views over time (esp. as India's YouTube presence continues to grow). But that video 'only' got 700 million views. The next highest is "Tití Me Preguntó" which might be closer to a billion if it had been out all year but still only gets a little over 600 million views in 2022. I wonder if it's just a case of music being usurped by other forms of media like TV/film which continue to get relatively easier to engage with while music is the same as always. I'd say it's people switching to audio platforms to listen to music but I'm not sure Apple/Spotify are showing significant growth lately?

I dunno about everyone else, but I had auto-play turned back on for me a couple months ago without warning which is probably contributing to this. (I still don't want to assume without proof that this is deliberate rather than just a broken quirk in an algorithm. Hanlon's razor and whatnot).

+5 RAYE & 070 Shake - Escapism. +4 SZA - Kill Bill +3 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin' +2 Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down +1 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero -1 Miley Cyrus - Flowers -2 venbee & goddard. - messy in heaven -3 Central Cee - LET GO -4 Meghan Trainor - Made You Look

With how much more accessible they are, I'm certain that more people are listening to whole albums than ever before (Bad Bunny's latest album has been streamed hundreds of millions of times in just 9 months, you'd need to sell "Thriller" numbers to even fathom that sort of rotation), but at the same time, a lot more people are just listening to choice cuts that drowns out this data.

I see this come up often and everyone seems to forget that Lil Nas X's entire career was born on TikTok :lol: On the whole though I feel like established artists get the best kickback from it because they're more likely to have fans in the first place to make the content and then spread it around. Especially lately there's a whole lot of 'hey here's this old Weeknd/Ye/Gaga song we dug up', so it's harder than ever for new artists to establish themselves.

30/01/2023 Singles 01 01 02 01 FLOWERS Miley Cyrus 02 02 07 01 KILL BILL SZA 03 03 08 03 ESCAPISM. RAYE feat. 070 Shake 04 04 18 01 UNHOLY Sam Smith feat. Kim Petras 05 05 14 01 ANTI-HERO Taylor Swift 06 06 16 04 MISS YOU Oliver Tree & Robin Schulz 07 07 08 07 CREEPIN' Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage 08 09 34 02 I AIN'T WORRIED OneRepublic 09 08 22 01 I'M GOOD (BLUE) David Guetta feat. Bebe Rexha 10 10 14 03 MADE YOU LOOK Meghan Trainor 11 11 43 01 AS IT WAS Harry Styles 12 12 06 11 LET GO Central Cee 13 22 08 13 10:35 Tiësto & Tate McRae 14 16 23 12 UNTIL I FOUND YOU Stephen Sanchez & Em Beihold 15 NE 01 15 SURE THING Miguel 16 18 28 15 SOMETHING IN THE ORANGE Zach Bryan 17 17 23 04 B.O.T.A. (BADDEST OF THEM ALL) Eliza Rose & Interplanetary Criminal 18 13 128 01 HEAT WAVES Glass Animals 19 15 76 01 COLD HEART (PNAU REMIX) Elton John & Dua Lipa 20 19 21 19 CALM DOWN Rema & Selena Gomez 21 21 29 03 BAD HABIT Steve Lacy 22 NE 01 22 NONSENSE Sabrina Carpenter 23 14 21 14 HOW DO I SAY GOODBYE Dean Lewis 24 20 34 08 SUNROOF Nicky Youre & dazy 25 23 12 03 RICH FLEX Drake & 21 Savage 26 24 24 08 CUFF IT Beyoncé 27 28 23 11 2 BE LOVED (AM I READY) Lizzo 28 27 72 02 SHIVERS Ed Sheeran 29 26 37 21 ANOTHER LOVE Tom Odell 30 30 21 29 GOLDEN HOUR JVKE 31 25 81 01 STAY The Kid Laroi and Justin Bieber 32 45 03 32 RUMBLE Skrillex, Fred again… and Flowdan 33 32 21 29 FERRARI James Hype & Miggy Dela Rosa 34 40 20 21 FORGET ME Lewis Capaldi 35 34 28 20 SNAP Rosa Linn 36 36 29 21 THE KIND OF LOVE WE MAKE Luke Combs 37 29 83 01 BAD HABITS Ed Sheeran 38 39 25 19 AFRAID TO FEEL LF System 39 31 135 23 MR. BRIGHTSIDE The Killers 40 44 60 05 WHERE ARE YOU NOW Lost Frequencies feat. Calum Scott 41 42 34 07 I LIKE YOU (A HAPPIER SONG) Post Malone feat. Doja Cat 42 41 107 03 SAVE YOUR TEARS The Weeknd 43 38 17 21 STAR WALKIN' Lil Nas X 44 51 04 44 HERE WITH ME d4vd 45 43 18 43 BONES Imagine Dragons 46 52 03 46 THE COLOR VIOLET Tory Lanez 47 35 120 04 LEVITATING Dua Lipa 48 46 39 03 ABOUT DAMN TIME Lizzo 49 49 26 38 DIE FOR YOU The Weeknd 50 33 25 05 UNDER THE INFLUENCE Chris Brown Albums 01 02 07 01 SOS SZA 02 01 14 01 MIDNIGHTS Taylor Swift 03 04 103 02 THE HIGHLIGHTS The Weeknd 04 05 242 03 DIAMONDS Elton John 05 07 36 01 HARRY'S HOUSE Harry Styles 06 09 08 05 HEROES & VILLAINS Metro Boomin' 07 08 366 01 CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS Eminem 08 06 239 01 AM Arctic Monkeys 09 11 182 01 STARBOY The Weeknd 10 14 148 01 FUTURE NOSTALGIA Dua Lipa 11 10 13 05 THE ESSENTIAL Foo Fighters 12 12 88 01 SOUR Olivia Rodigo 13 13 254 07 THIS ONE'S FOR YOU Luke Combs 14 16 168 01 WHAT YOU SEE AIN'T ALWAYS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 15 22 431 01 1989 Taylor Swift 16 15 294 14 SINGLES COLLECTION Maroon 5 17 17 163 01 FINE LINE Harry Styles 18 18 308 01 ÷ Ed Sheeran 19 21 25 02 CURTAIN CALL 2 Eminem 20 19 411 02 RUMOURS Fleetwood Mac 21 23 65 01 = Ed Sheeran 22 25 107 02 DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM Morgan Wallen 23 28 146 01 AFTER HOURS The Weeknd 24 26 31 02 GROWIN' UP Luke Combs 25 20 179 01 LOVER Taylor Swift 26 27 200 01 WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? Billie Eilish 27 NE 01 27 RUSH! Maneskin 28 32 12 02 HER LOSS Drake & 21 Savage 29 41 83 02 PLANET HER Doja Cat 30 37 33 15 LOOK AT ME: THE ALBUM XXXTentacion 31 24 272 01 REPUTATION Taylor Swift 32 34 131 01 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 33 36 261 01 THE EMINEM SHOW Eminem 34 46 193 07 DIVINELY UNINSPIRED TO A HELLISH EXTENT Lewis Capaldi 35 38 349 01 TEENAGE DREAM: THE COMPLETE CONFECTION Katy Perry 36 40 223 01 BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK) Queen 37 29 544 01 THE VERY BEST INXS 38 42 31 01 HERE COMES EVERYBODY Spacey Jane 39 31 211 23 GOOD KID, M.A.A.D. CITY Kendrick Lamar 40 33 78 01 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 41 35 132 01 CURRENTS Tame Impala 42 44 269 08 DUA LIPA Dua Lipa 43 47 134 01 SHOOT FOR THE STARS, AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 44 43 14 36 STUDIO ALBUMS ABBA 45 59 234 16 GREATEST HITS: GOD'S FAVORITE BAND Green Day 46 48 180 18 LIVE IN BUENOS AIRES Coldplay 47 64 478 02 GREATEST HITS Red Hot Chili Peppers 48 39 55 01 DAWN FM The Weeknd 49 45 404 01 BON JOVI GREATEST HITS - THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION Bon Jovi 50 60 95 01 JUSTICE Justin Bieber Not much to note at the top of the chart, there's only one position swap in the top 10. "Flowers" is not slowing down very much so there's no competition in sight. Well, there was a competition recently, namely triple j's Hottest 100 which despite feeling like the Spacey Jane and Fred again.. show, looks to be most beneficial here for Flume and Eliza Rose next week. "Say Nothing" originally peaked and debuted at #16 but looks to vault back into the top 50, perhaps into the top 5 next week. It could also help for one last roll of the dice for Luude to hit the top 50 with "Big City Life" because I kid you not, the last Australian song to enter the top 50 was Joji's "Die For You" back in early November. Anyway, Tiesto's Hottest 200 entry "10:35" vaults up into the top 15, behind a new arrival of Miguel's "Sure Thing" which apparently moved zero units last week, crazy. There's a quite high debut for Sabrina Carpenter which is her first top 50 entry although she did make the top 100 about 2 years ago with that song about gaslighting a literal child whom lives rent free in her head. Anyway "Nonsense" might be out of the top 50 next week, I'm sure you're aware of that chestnut. d4vd scores his 2nd top 50 hit and Tory Lanez gets his 3rd (1st as a lead artist). I forgot to mention last week that "Save Your Tears" became the 6th song to reach 100 weeks in the top 50. "Levitating" is looking like it might tap out before overtaking "Someone You Loved" or "Blinding Lights", which means "Heat Waves" is right on its tail going nowhere (although it has dropped quite a bit in recent weeks, we surely have to expect the annual climb to #1 in March). So much for record breaking Taylor Swift as SZA has managed to surpass her this week and score her first ever #1 album. Otherwise the album chart is in another one of its auto-pilot weeks, with the exception of Måneskin scoring an album chart debut. Next week looks like Sam Smith's for the taking, but expect a big rebound for Spacey Jane, and maybe HARDY or Ava Max can figure somewhere, the midweeks haven't come out yet so I'm just taking a punt at this.

Jacob may have set a new world record but he's very humble and might delete the video on discord so I have to cross-post it here just to be sure OtOlThfRfO0

Yeah, seems it's the same for other Australians. I've also noticed @chartdata has been a little less prompt on Spotify updates in the last few days (usually their tweets let me know it's been updated). Not sure where they're based in though.

Dang I'm jealous, my Spotify chart still hasn't updated for the past 3 days now, have had to rely on kworb. If anyone can send me the CSV or extensive screenshot of the Australian top 200 for today I'd be highly grateful (it's a pretty significant chart watching day). Edit: Bjork has me covered, don't feel the need to send me anything :D

+5 RAYE & 070 Shake - Escapism. +4 SZA - Kill Bill +3 Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down +2 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero +1 Bugzy Malone & TeeDee - Out Of Nowhere -1 venbee & goddard. - messy in heaven -2 Lewis Capaldi - Pointless -3 Central Cee - LET GO -4 Meghan Trainor - Made You Look

#101 in the Hottest 100 and now this, Dave really taking the L's today.

shades of Life Is Good, the most viewed YouTube video of 2020 source: kworb Also what a twist of fate now I can't find the new charts :lol: apart from the in-app top 50 playlists, the main 200 isn't updated.

I feel like Marcus Mumford, First Aid Kit, Gang Of Youths etc should be disqualified on principle, though v funny to see the latter described as such :heehee:

I remember first lurking on the forum on the night "Get Lucky" debuted at #2 so I think Rudimental were #1 with "Waiting All Night". Always feel it gets a bit messy with chart dates vs. what is #1 on that particular day vs. what is selling on that particular day, but luckily for me my actual join date is completely unambiguous because it was in the middle of this 3 week reign IcrbM1l_BoI

I just can't work out why any music fan would treat arbitrary tastes and preferences like it's a hard-coded competition to boast about, and that the competition is against children.