Everything posted by Dircadirca
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A Complete Top 10 Chart Run?
#7, #9 & #10 I think. This week was actually its first ever at #3.
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Buzzjack Reshuffle Chart #648
+5 Ed Sheeran - Overpass Graffiti +4 Adele - Easy On Me +3 Taylor Swift - All Too Well (Taylor's Version) +2 CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) +1 Johnny Football Hero - Seventeen Going Under -1 Ed Sheeran - Shivers -2 ArrDee - Flowers (Say My Name) -3 SwitchOTR - Coming For You -4 Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits -5 Just realised I left the tab open for like 7 hours because I couldn't think of a fun way to deride the song
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2021 Australian Chart Thread
29/11/2021 Singles 01 02 06 01 EASY ON ME Adele 02 01 02 01 ALL TOO WELL (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 03 03 15 01 COLD HEART (PNAU REMIX) Elton John & Dua Lipa 04 04 20 01 STAY The Kid Laroi and Justin Bieber 05 05 11 02 SHIVERS Ed Sheeran 06 NE 01 06 OH MY GOD Adele 07 06 22 01 BAD HABITS Ed Sheeran 08 07 67 01 HEAT WAVES Glass Animals 09 09 18 04 INDUSTRY BABY Lil Nas X feat. Jack Harlow 10 NE 01 10 I DRINK WINE Adele 11 NE 01 11 MY LITTLE LOVE Adele 12 11 09 11 GHOST Justin Bieber 13 08 03 08 SMOKIN' OUT THE WINDOW Silk Sonic 14 10 03 09 ONE RIGHT NOW Post Malone & The Weeknd 15 NE 01 15 CAN I GET IT Adele 16 39 03 16 DO IT TO IT Acraze feat. Cherish 17 NE 01 17 ABCDEFU Gayle 18 NE 01 18 STRANGERS BY NATURE Adele 19 14 10 07 THAT'S WHAT I WANT Lil Nas X 20 13 11 08 MEET ME AT OUR SPOT The Anxiety 21 NE 01 21 CRY YOUR HEART OUT Adele 22 17 28 01 GOOD 4 U Olivia Rodrigo 23 16 04 16 BETTER DAYS NEIKED & Mae Muller feat. Polo G 24 15 17 03 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 25 NE 01 25 TO BE LOVED Adele 26 18 10 08 LOVE NWANTITI (AH AH AH) CKay 27 23 33 02 KISS ME MORE Doja Cat feat. SZA 28 20 23 03 BEGGIN' Måneskin 29 22 04 08 OVERPASS GRAFFITI Ed Sheeran 30 24 59 04 LEVITATING Dua Lipa 31 NE 01 31 HOLD ON Adele 32 30 46 03 SAVE YOUR TEARS The Weeknd 33 NE 01 33 ALL NIGHT PARKING Adele & Errol Garner 34 28 09 07 MY UNIVERSE Coldplay and BTS 35 85 02 35 ENEMY Imagine Dragons, JID & League Of Legends 36 26 05 08 MOTH TO A FLAME Swedish House Mafia & The Weeknd 37 32 13 16 WOMAN Doja Cat 38 36 35 01 MONTERO (CALL ME BY YOUR NAME) Lil Nas X 39 35 27 14 MISSING PIECE Vance Joy 40 40 104 01 BLINDING LIGHTS The Weeknd 41 42 19 22 LOVE TONIGHT Shouse 42 44 19 16 DREAMS Jolyon Petch 43 37 24 09 NEED TO KNOW Doja Cat 44 46 07 30 ACAPULCO Jason Derulo 45 47 72 04 DREAMS Fleetwood Mac 46 87 91 03 ROLLING IN THE DEEP Adele 47 52 51 01 WITHOUT YOU The Kid LAROI with Miley Cyrus 48 51 20 13 2055 SLEEPY HALLOW 49 19 02 19 RUN (TAYLOR'S VERSION) (FROM THE VAULT) Taylor Swift feat. Ed Sheeran 50 NE 01 50 ENCHANTED Taylor Swift Albums 01 NE 01 01 30 Adele 02 NE 01 02 PAUL KELLY'S CHRISTMAS TRAIN Paul Kelly 03 01 02 01 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 04 03 04 01 = Ed Sheeran 05 02 03 01 VOYAGE ABBA 06 NE 01 06 THE LEGENDARY 1979 NO NUKES CONCERTS Bruce Springsteen 07 11 281 01 25 Adele 08 09 27 01 SOUR Olivia Rodigo 09 10 22 02 PLANET HER Doja Cat 10 23 419 01 21 Adele 11 04 02 04 AN EVENING WITH SILK SONIC Silk Sonic 12 14 36 01 JUSTICE Justin Bieber 13 RE 08 02 ONLY SANTA KNOWS Delta Goodrem 14 15 87 01 FUTURE NOSTALGIA Dua Lipa 15 12 12 01 CERTIFIED LOVER BOY Drake 16 19 102 01 FINE LINE Harry Styles 17 16 42 02 THE HIGHLIGHTS The Weeknd 18 NE 01 18 RAISE THE ROOF Robert Plant & Alison Krauss 19 17 70 01 F*CK LOVE The Kid Laroi 20 13 309 02 NEVERMIND Nirvana 21 20 17 01 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 22 22 10 01 MONTERO Lil Nas X 23 08 02 08 BETWEEN US Little Mix 24 27 247 01 ÷ Ed Sheeran 25 25 370 01 1989 Taylor Swift 26 24 70 01 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 27 21 05 01 SURRENDER Rüfüs du Sol 28 NE 01 28 HAPPY TOGETHER Andre Rieu & Johann Strauss Orchestra 29 69 136 03 19 Adele 30 18 30 01 FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 31 30 181 03 DIAMONDS Elton John 32 29 107 01 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 33 33 233 16 SINGLES COLLECTION Maroon 5 34 NE 01 34 NOT SO TOUGH NOW Frenzal Rhomb 35 31 13 01 DONDA Kanye West 36 34 139 01 WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? Billie Eilish 37 28 118 01 LOVER Taylor Swift 38 36 305 01 CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS Eminem 39 35 350 01 RUMOURS Fleetwood Mac 40 RE 81 01 CHRISTMAS Michael Buble 41 37 193 07 THIS ONE'S FOR YOU Luke Combs 42 40 50 01 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 43 39 02 39 THE TEARS OF HERCULES Rod Stewart 44 RE 04 03 SCALED AND ICY Twenty One Pilots 45 38 05 02 THE LOCKDOWN SESSIONS Elton John 46 41 483 01 THE VERY BEST INXS 47 42 73 01 SHOOT FOR THE STARS, AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 48 44 288 01 TEENAGE DREAM: THE COMPLETE CONFECTION Katy Perry 49 52 178 01 AM Arctic Monkeys 50 48 06 01 MUSIC OF THE SPHERES Coldplay Adele returns for her 3rd week at #1. She's definitely solid for next week although it does seem that she's likely to succumb to her prior equilibrium, which is an unnecessarily wordy way to say she'll go back to moving the units she was before the album came out which probably isn't enough for #1. Adele also has the lion's share of new entries this week, including two in the top 10. This gives her the rare feat of having 3 top 10 singles and albums at the same time which hasn't been done since Ed Sheeran did it back in 2017. It also allows me to point out ARIA Shenanigans™, as eagle-eyed viewers might note that Adele has merely 9 debuts this week, with "Woman Like Me" and "Love Is A Game" missing. I think they'd probably have made the top 50 but not quite top 40 with the rest of the album. We'll never know why they're missing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The other proper debut this week is from GAYLE who is showing some serious Arizona Zervas energy by vaulting up the chart at rapid speed near the end of the year, and continues to introduce a world where globally charting artists have Twitter follower counts in a similar ballpark to me, though in her defence it is slightly difficult to find her. Perhaps her handle suggests she'll be appearing on Jeopardy! soon. "abcdefu" will probably climb into the top 10 next week. Imagine Dragons climb into the top 50 to score their biggest hit in ages with "Enemy". It's the first time in the chart for JID and shockingly also the first time for the intangible entity of League of Legends. A few months back Angus & Julia Stone got the first ever video game soundtrack into the chart, and now League is the first ever video game to have a hit single, unless there's some dumb other technicality you can think of. The best I had is that Celeste is the name of a (very good) video game and Daphne & Celeste had some hits back in the day. The other improper debut is from Taylor Swift whose "Enchanted" has been curiously missing from the chart for weeks but now is allowed in and just squeaks into the top 50 but is certainly on its way out. Of note, apart from "All Too Well (Taylor's Version)", her only debut to last in the top 50 is the Ed Sheeran collab solely because it's the one that's on Hot Hits Australia. As well as there being songs missing from the chart which does not just include Adele, but also "SAD GIRLZ LUV MONEY" and "Where Are You Now", the latter is actually the top track on HHA, the second time this year that it's been a song ARIA aren't counting. HHA added "The Thrill" back in March. It's now December and it's still on there. ON THE TOPIC OF SUSPICIOUSLY ASTROTURFED HITS, you've probably noticed for the past 4 months that there's been a cover of "Dreams" by Fleetwood Mac on the chart here. It coinciding with the presence of actual "Dreams" by Fleetwood Mac is a mark against its need to be here, and in fact it was pretty much set to get overtaken by the original article pretty soon, although it's now seeing a boost of inauspicious activity. Last week was the ARIA Awards which for the first time in decades wasn't actually broadcast on TV but just on YouTube, which I probably would've watched if I didn't just happen to be out for the exact time slot that it was being aired. Congrats go out to Genesis Owusu for dominating the awards though. Anyway, that cover of "Dreams" was nominated for Best Dance Release which if we're looking for silver linings, means that at least it won't be nominated for Song Of The Year in 2022 because it 100% would have otherwise because we have the dumbest system in place. It didn't win the award (shout out to ya bois RÜFÜS DU SOL), but it generated controversy in the sidelines. As I noted when it entered the top 50, the vocalist on the track is Reigan Derry, who is probably familiar to you if you've been invested in Australian reality TV singing competitions in the past decade and a half, or for that matter the charts as she's had several top 50 hits over the years, though nothing with the sustained success (via playlists & radio spam lol) of "Dreams". Since she's not credited on the track, nor on any of the metadata, she's been unable to see any profit on this windfall. This all boils down to Jolyon being kind of an arsehole regarding residuals but also seemingly releasing the song through his label without her permission (the vocal track was merely a demo). When she tried to reach out to him about amending things, he blocked her on social media and proceeded to avoid mentioning her in interviews. Apparently all of this bureaucracy also meant that she wasn't even able to attend the ARIA Awards because she technically hadn't been nominated (sidebar: in general acting like an artist didn't have a hit song because they're not credited, whether on official metadata or the OCC is pretty shitty). There's been some back & forth on social media however the posts have now been deleted, and Jolyon has privated his instagram account and seemingly deleted his Twitter account, so I don't know where any of this is going but I really just want to point out the surprisingly slimy underbelly of a made-for-radio cash in on a TikTok with "Dreams" by Fleetwood Mac from a year ago. On the album chart, Adele has her 3rd #1 album. One should probably not even pretend to be shocked by that. Doing so, she bests Australian music royalty Paul Kelly, who lately seems to be putting out a new album pretty much every year. This latest one is a Christmas album which includes newly written songs among a multitude of covers. It also of course features a new version of Australia's only noteworthy Christmas canon "How To Make Gravy" (I assume because "Hey Santa Claus" isn't ever going to end up on playlists), because how could it possibly be a Paul Kelly Christmas album without it. Bruce Springsteen reaches the top 10 with a live album. Plant & Krauss are back again at last and chart much higher than their first album together, which briefly reached the top 50 after its big Grammy win in 2009. Speaking of the late 2000s, Andre Rieu is back on the charts. In the world of vinyl re-releases and the like we have a return for twenty one pilots (and I guess Michael Buble also technically counts but that's not why he's here), and a debut for Frenzal Rhomb's second album from 1996 which unlike Adele's new album, debuts with a gold certification. Notably it's the only album I've ever known to have 35 secret tracks.
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Should the OCC exclude old Christmas songs from the chart?
I think what you'll see over time is that the streaming demographic is slowly skewing older and older, over time more and more old songs are becoming seemingly permanent staples and only a select few new hits last the distance. As for Spice Girls vs. Little Mix, I don't think we can use bestowed reverence as a yardstick. The charts have always favoured all manner of random material that's merely a time capsule in hindsight, while classics can go through with monster sales or also minute sales. The charts are there to tell us what people are actually buying/listening to as an exact yardstick. You can spend all day mentally admiring Adele's new album but unless you're actively buying/listening to it, that's none of the chart's business. If there is a problem to be had with streaming it's that it's strongly influenced by what has found its way into people's personal playlists to get repeated plays, but at the end of the day, they are listening to that material over material that's not playlisted, and that's what the chart's here to tell us. But still you have to look at the *really* long term. Shape Of You is just shy of 5 years old, Bohemian Rhapsody is over 45 years old, and yet today on Spotify they posted roughly the same number on the global chart. I hate to subscribe to the ultra-boomer take of 'music that's still remembered half a century later is good music'*, but either Shape Of You is going to fall to the wayside and drop its margin over Queen every day for the rest of time until they trade ranks, or it'll stay above them and at some point we just have to say that its position is justified by its extended popularity (mind you Blinding Lights will probably be #1 on Spotify in early 2023). *Or for that matter, insinuating that my own childhood nostalgia invalidates that of someone younger than me, who may well be seeing recent releases as the most important music in their life, and '90s/'00s/etc music is just crappy old music.
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The Weeknd is set to make history this week
Then we could use the technicality that the midweeks cover those extra 3 days after 104 weeks that makes it to 2 years :heehee:
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Should the OCC exclude old Christmas songs from the chart?
Is there a valid problem with songs accumulating huge sales numbers that doesn't boil down to 'I'm mad because old music better'? If anything streaming is the great equaliser because anything (that's available online) can accumulate these long term numbers and over time*, it's actually the older songs that set the insurmountable amounts because they're *always* gaining. Bohemian Rhapsody & Wonderwall are slowly ascending the ranks of the most streamed songs ever, and they're both multiple times as old as Spotify itself. *historical pure sales numbers are so often defined by the differing market strength of different eras as is
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Buzzjack's Favourite UK No 1 Single Of The 80s
Did a thing. No childhood bias in theory :thinking:
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The Weeknd is set to make history this week
If we really wanna go there, it's not 2 years until it's spent 105 weeks in the chart. 104 weeks is less than 2 years.
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Buzzjack Reshuffle Chart #647
+5 Ed Sheeran - Overpass Graffiti +4 Adele - Easy On Me +3 THE ANXIETY - Meet Me At Our Spot +2 CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) +1 Central Cee - Obsessed With You -1 Ed Sheeran - Shivers -2 ArrDee - Flowers (Say My Name) -3 Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits -4 apparently the cold heart is mine -5 'ass glanimals'
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2021 Australian Chart Thread
22/11/2021 Singles 01 NE 01 01 ALL TOO WELL (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 02 02 05 01 EASY ON ME Adele 03 01 14 01 COLD HEART (PNAU REMIX) Elton John & Dua Lipa 04 03 19 01 STAY The Kid Laroi and Justin Bieber 05 04 10 02 SHIVERS Ed Sheeran 06 05 21 01 BAD HABITS Ed Sheeran 07 06 66 01 HEAT WAVES Glass Animals 08 34 02 08 SMOKIN' OUT THE WINDOW Silk Sonic 09 07 17 04 INDUSTRY BABY Lil Nas X feat. Jack Harlow 10 09 02 09 ONE RIGHT NOW Post Malone & The Weeknd 11 12 08 11 GHOST Justin Bieber 12 NE 01 12 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 13 08 10 08 MEET ME AT OUR SPOT The Anxiety 14 10 09 07 THAT'S WHAT I WANT Lil Nas X 15 11 16 03 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 16 16 03 16 BETTER DAYS NEIKED & Mae Muller feat. Polo G 17 14 27 01 GOOD 4 U Olivia Rodrigo 18 15 09 08 LOVE NWANTITI (AH AH AH) CKay 19 NE 01 19 RUN (TAYLOR'S VERSION) (FROM THE VAULT) Taylor Swift feat. Ed Sheeran 20 18 22 03 BEGGIN' Måneskin 21 NE 01 21 I KNEW YOU WERE TROUBLE (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 22 13 03 08 OVERPASS GRAFFITI Ed Sheeran 23 19 32 02 KISS ME MORE Doja Cat feat. SZA 24 17 58 04 LEVITATING Dua Lipa 25 NE 01 25 STATE OF GRACE (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 26 20 04 08 MOTH TO A FLAME Swedish House Mafia & The Weeknd 27 NE 01 27 22 (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 28 21 08 07 MY UNIVERSE Coldplay and BTS 29 NE 01 29 ALREADY DEAD Juice WRLD 30 23 45 03 SAVE YOUR TEARS The Weeknd 31 NE 01 31 NOTHING NEW (TAYLOR'S VERSION) (FROM THE VAULT) Taylor Swift feat. Phoebe Bridgers 32 24 12 16 WOMAN Doja Cat 33 NE 01 33 MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE (TAYLOR'S VERSION) (FROM THE VAULT) Taylor Swift 34 NE 01 34 WE ARE NEVER EVER GETTING BACK TOGETHER (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 35 25 26 14 MISSING PIECE Vance Joy 36 26 34 01 MONTERO (CALL ME BY YOUR NAME) Lil Nas X 37 27 23 09 NEED TO KNOW Doja Cat 38 NE 01 38 TREACHEROUS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 39 53 02 39 DO IT TO IT Acraze feat. Cherish 40 31 103 01 BLINDING LIGHTS The Weeknd 41 105 26 10 LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN Silk Sonic 42 32 18 22 LOVE TONIGHT Shouse 43 NE 01 43 I BET YOU THINK ABOUT ME (TAYLOR'S VERSION) (FROM THE VAULT) Taylor Swift feat. Chris Stapleton 44 28 18 16 DREAMS Jolyon Petch 45 NE 01 45 I ALMOST DO (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 46 30 6 30 ACAPULCO Jason Derulo 47 35 71 04 DREAMS Fleetwood Mac 48 NE 01 48 BAD MAN (SMOOTH CRIMINAL) Polo G 49 33 11 13 KNIFE TALK Drake with 21 Savage & Project Pat 50 29 11 24 A-O-K Tai Verdes Albums 01 NE 01 01 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 02 01 02 01 VOYAGE ABBA 03 02 03 01 = Ed Sheeran 04 NE 01 04 AN EVENING WITH SILK SONIC Silk Sonic 05 NE 01 05 THINGS TAKE TIME, TAKE TIME Courtney Barnett 06 NE 01 06 FOREVER Flight Facilities 07 RE 11 01 DISCO Kylie Minogue 08 NE 01 08 BETWEEN US Little Mix 09 05 26 01 SOUR Olivia Rodigo 10 04 21 02 PLANET HER Doja Cat 11 13 280 01 25 Adele 12 06 11 01 CERTIFIED LOVER BOY Drake 13 64 308 02 NEVERMIND Nirvana 14 09 35 01 JUSTICE Justin Bieber 15 08 86 01 FUTURE NOSTALGIA Dua Lipa 16 11 41 02 THE HIGHLIGHTS The Weeknd 17 14 69 01 F*CK LOVE The Kid Laroi 18 42 29 01 FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 19 16 101 01 FINE LINE Harry Styles 20 12 16 01 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 21 07 04 01 SURRENDER Rüfüs du Sol 22 15 09 01 MONTERO Lil Nas X 23 28 418 01 21 Adele 24 25 69 01 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 25 31 369 01 1989 Taylor Swift 26 NE 01 26 CRAWLER Idles 27 19 246 01 ÷ Ed Sheeran 28 36 117 01 LOVER Taylor Swift 29 29 106 01 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 30 20 180 03 DIAMONDS Elton John 31 27 12 01 DONDA Kanye West 32 RE 48 02 THE WOMBATS PROUDLY PRESENT… THIS MODERN GLITCH The Wombats 33 23 232 16 SINGLES COLLECTION Maroon 5 34 24 138 01 WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? Billie Eilish 35 21 349 01 RUMOURS Fleetwood Mac 36 32 304 01 CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS Eminem 37 37 192 07 THIS ONE'S FOR YOU Luke Combs 38 10 04 02 THE LOCKDOWN SESSIONS Elton John 39 NE 01 39 THE TEARS OF HERCULES Rod Stewart 40 38 49 01 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 41 53 482 01 THE VERY BEST INXS 42 39 72 01 SHOOT FOR THE STARS, AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 43 48 210 01 REPUTATION Taylor Swift 44 45 287 01 TEENAGE DREAM: THE COMPLETE CONFECTION Katy Perry 45 41 131 07 DIVINELY UNINSPIRED TO A HELLISH EXTENT Lewis Capaldi 46 43 161 01 BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY Queen / Soundtrack 47 46 207 08 DUA LIPA Dua Lipa 48 33 05 01 MUSIC OF THE SPHERES Coldplay 49 44 45 02 DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM Morgan Wallen 50 51 264 02 DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS Bruno Mars This week Taylor Swift scores her 8th #1 single. This has been pretty par the course of late as she scored two #1 hits last year. Though the long term is uncertain, it looks like "All Too Well (Taylor's Version)" will have a better second week than either "cardigan" or "willow" and might only drop to #2 next week. Adele was initially looking like going back to #1 last week but she'll probably do it for real next week alongside her new album. Elsewhere this week Silk Sonic climb into the top 10 with "Smokin Out The Window". "Leave The Door Open" actually only got to #10 so this is a new high for the duo (though Anderson .Paak still has the cursed fact that his highest chart entry is still Macklemore's "Dance Off"). Taylor Swift takes over the chart otherwise this week except that's the funny thing. Last week I said that they may have bungled things as the vast majority of her debuts (including "All Too Well (Taylor's Version)") weren't even on the midweeks. This was largely fixed up but not quite because I still think there are a couple missing in the top 50. This week Taylor Swift scores her 9th #1 album. This has been pretty par the course of late as she scored two #1 albums last year. She leads up a pretty busy top 10 for debuts. Silk Sonic debut at #4, relatively low for Bruno Mars but relatively high for Anderson .Paak. Courtney Barnett returns to score her 4th top 5 album, and ever the slow gestators, Flight Facilities (aka the source of my avatar, aka the source of Australians have very different opinions on "Clair de lune" to you) return with their 2nd album which lands a little lower than their hit-laden debut. Kylie Minogue returns thanks to the new versions of "DISCO" out last week and Little Mix impressively maintain their top 10 streak despite being further and further out from the last time they actually had a hit here (apart from "Heartbreak Anthem"). IDLES last year scored a top 10 album though this time their new album which I admit I didn't even know was coming until the day it dropped lands at #26. The Wombats issued a 10th anniversary album of their 2nd album, which is the album that started the era in which they were undeniably more popular in Australia than in the UK, Australia just really bloody loved this and the next Wombats albums. Next week Adele will arrive at the #1 spot. I don't know what else will even make the top 50, maybe James Blunt. (Note to self: drag Jolyon Petch next week)
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The Weeknd is set to make history this week
Contextually it makes sense though, Billboard's formula gives strong weight to sales that (especially in the US) have big first week hype numbers. And then on the chart itself, it was tipping over to December with heaps of Christmas songs overtaking it, Spotify Wrapped coming out that week to gear focus away from new hits, and tragically it was also the week Juice WRLD passed away and he had several songs climb ahead. If he put out the song a month back, it probably would've been a more gentle decline. There was a solid 2 months of 'this is obviously a hit but radio isn't letting it happen' of course, because why give even the illusion of free will on the charts :bounce:
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
Problem with implementing it is that it'll probably make an even bigger mess since most people probably don't actively seek out the most apropos album to stream tracks from. They'll just search it and add the first result that comes up no matter how random it is, either sticking with it forever (by adding it to their own personal playlist), or be subject to whatever fluctuations the algorithm decides for future listens. For instance, I just searched up "Lose Yourself" and the first result was neither Curtain Call nor the 8 Mile soundtrack, but the 2014 Shady Records compilation album, and I believe in the past it's also often come up with the "Just Lose It" single which in either case is just the same as not counting the song at all. Maybe to some this is a more just chart that puts cherry picking into perspective but I think it'd just make the chart impossible to interpret and meaningless (...more so).
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
Fair. It doesn't really specify that they combine both rates for the album chart so I can't feel certain on it (it seems pretty out of character/illogical to change it solely for that purpose?). Either way though the actual numbers aren't really the point of my post from before, but cheers for the clarification.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
Is there any documentation on this? Not necessarily doubting but it's the first I've heard of it, what with chart companies being notoriously coy about explaining their methodologies properly and making it easy to find.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
I mean it does, because streaming a whole album gets you the full 1/100th or 1/600th (depending on your account status) of a sale, whereas streaming a song from a playlist will only net 1/800th or 1/4800th and only if it's the 3rd-10th biggest song on the album. People hearing "Easy On Me" on a playlist are contributing 0.0000 sales to "30" because that's how it works. It's very rare that albums actually have more than the two biggest songs on playlists at a given time so it becomes pretty negligible on the whole. It might just seem like non-full listens are extremely overweighted if you're not fully grasping the sheer volume to which they outnumber start to finish album listens. Either way though, the 'idealised' version of listening to the album from start to finish is a bit gatekeeper-y for my liking, and you could also argue that someone who has listened to an album from start to finish might not necessarily have their undivided attention. Like a playlist, chucking on an album is an easy way to program yourself an hour of music with little effort, even if you totally zone out from it in lieu of something else you might be doing. But also I'll quote myself about the problems with this idea of supposed 'full album streams' (the topic at the time suggested *only* counting full streams, but the idea of bonus streaming points for it is just shifting the numbers higher so the idea still applies In general, quick fix ideas to invigorate the chart practically always come with unintended/realised side-effects. Plenty of examples just from the last 4 years of the official chart.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
For sure I agree, and I think the same was true for when "25" was released in comparison to "21", but my expectations were also just partially tempered because of "25"'s roll out strategy which squeezed out more pure sales that it would otherwise have gotten given the standard roll out. So I think Adele is doing absolutely fine all things considered, I just had lower expectations I guess.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
I think something that is worth noting with Adele is that "25" wasn't on Spotify when it was first released, so even in addition to it being 6 years since she last put out an album, even back then there's been a built in standard of not listening to the new Adele album on Spotify on release. I've been tempted to be inclined to say this might also cut significantly into her sales for all the people (myself included) who bought "25" because of this exclusivity, and no, these aren't contradictory statements, a sale is worth so much more than a stream, but I'm waiting to see the sales numbers themselves*. *Though even then, how it sells over the next 5 weeks probably matters just as much as the initial figure.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
"Easy On Me" is still new enough that it's pretty fair they could just be waiting to gauge reaction at the moment to work out what to go with.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
I have to assume it's a sample although Rita Ora featured on an entirely unrelated song called "R.I.P." a couple years ago so it wouldn't be the first #1 hit from the early 2010s to hold this ignoble distinction if so :lol:
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
Incredible that Adele can defy mathematics
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
In all fairness, it's not just Christmas music. Spotify Wrapped drops around the end of November and there's a general reminiscence around the year that was in December with publications putting out their Best of 2021 stuff too. People aren't really feasting for new music in December, not that much of it is generally released anyway.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
I find it's a little varied, easier to notice the long lasting ones since they're ever-present :lol: For instance, Gym Class Heroes blew up with "Cupid's Chokehold" earlier this year but it was only about a month and a half in the sun before dropping off back to usual business pretty much everywhere. For what it's worth, "Seventeen Going Under" actually entered the Australian Spotify chart about a week ago, a first for Sam, and it quickly got into the top 50 before getting kicked out by Taylor Swift & Silk Sonic, but its diminished daily total suggests it might already be on the way out after just a few days.
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2021 Australian Chart Thread
15/11/2021 Singles 01 01 13 01 COLD HEART (PNAU REMIX) Elton John & Dua Lipa 02 03 04 01 EASY ON ME Adele 03 05 18 01 STAY The Kid Laroi and Justin Bieber 04 02 09 02 SHIVERS Ed Sheeran 05 04 20 01 BAD HABITS Ed Sheeran 06 06 65 01 HEAT WAVES Glass Animals 07 07 16 04 INDUSTRY BABY Lil Nas X feat. Jack Harlow 08 10 09 08 MEET ME AT OUR SPOT The Anxiety 09 NE 01 09 ONE RIGHT NOW Post Malone & The Weeknd 10 09 08 07 THAT'S WHAT I WANT Lil Nas X 11 11 15 03 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 12 14 07 12 GHOST Justin Bieber 13 08 02 08 OVERPASS GRAFFITI Ed Sheeran 14 12 26 01 GOOD 4 U Olivia Rodrigo 15 13 08 08 LOVE NWANTITI (AH AH AH) CKay 16 20 02 16 BETTER DAYS NEIKED & Mae Muller feat. Polo G 17 17 57 01 LEVITATING Dua Lipa 18 16 21 03 BEGGIN' Måneskin 19 18 31 02 KISS ME MORE Doja Cat feat. SZA 20 15 03 08 MOTH TO A FLAME Swedish House Mafia & The Weeknd 21 19 07 07 MY UNIVERSE Coldplay and BTS 22 NE 01 22 ESCAPE PLAN Travis Scott 23 21 44 03 SAVE YOUR TEARS The Weeknd 24 23 11 16 WOMAN Doja Cat 25 25 25 14 MISSING PIECE Vance Joy 26 22 33 01 MONTERO (CALL ME BY YOUR NAME) Lil Nas X 27 24 22 09 NEED TO KNOW Doja Cat 28 26 17 16 DREAMS Jolyon Petch 29 27 10 24 A-O-K Tai Verdes 30 35 05 30 ACAPULCO Jason Derulo 31 28 102 01 BLINDING LIGHTS The Weeknd 32 30 17 22 LOVE TONIGHT Shouse 33 33 10 13 KNIFE TALK Drake with 21 Savage & Project Pat 34 NE 01 34 SMOKIN OUT THE WINDOW Silk Sonic 35 36 70 04 DREAMS Fleetwood Mac 36 37 18 13 2055 Sleepy Hallow 37 32 24 26 LEAVE BEFORE YOU LOVE ME Marshmello feat. Jonas Brothers 38 40 49 01 WITHOUT YOU The Kid Laroi 39 34 07 31 OUT OUT Joel Corry, Jax Jones, Charli XCX & Saweetie 40 38 14 09 TAKE MY BREATH The Weeknd 41 39 10 07 WAY 2 SEXY Drake with Future & Young Thug 42 45 15 42 FANCY LIKE Walker Hayes 43 42 25 16 LITTLE BIT OF LOVE Tom Grennan 44 47 12 25 I GUESS I'M IN LOVE Clinton Kane 45 50 72 29 MR. BRIGHTSIDE The Killers 46 41 34 01 PEACHES Justin Bieber feat. Daniel Caesar & Giveon 47 NE 01 47 MAFIA Travis Scott 48 48 10 03 FAIR TRADE Drake with Travis Scott 49 44 08 34 LIFE GOES ON Oliver Tree 50 49 50 04 THE BUSINESS Tiësto Albums 01 NE 01 01 VOYAGE ABBA 02 01 02 01 = Ed Sheeran 03 NE 01 03 KID A MNESIA Radiohead 04 02 20 02 PLANET HER Doja Cat 05 03 25 01 SOUR Olivia Rodigo 06 04 10 01 CERTIFIED LOVER BOY Drake 07 05 03 01 SURRENDER Rüfüs du Sol 08 07 85 01 FUTURE NOSTALGIA Dua Lipa 09 06 34 01 JUSTICE Justin Bieber 10 14 03 02 THE LOCKDOWN SESSIONS Elton John 11 13 40 02 THE HIGHLIGHTS The Weeknd 12 08 15 01 HAPPIER THAN EVER Billie Eilish 13 11 279 01 25 Adele 14 15 68 01 F*CK LOVE The Kid Laroi 15 10 08 01 MONTERO Lil Nas X 16 17 100 01 FINE LINE Harry Styles 17 NE 01 17 BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE Bullet For My Valentine 18 NE 01 18 STILL OVER IT Summer Walker 19 19 245 01 ÷ Ed Sheeran 20 20 179 03 DIAMONDS Elton John 21 30 348 01 RUMOURS Fleetwood Mac 22 NE 01 22 LIVE AT THE DRIVE IN Hockey Dad 23 26 231 16 SINGLES COLLECTION Maroon 5 24 23 137 01 WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? Billie Eilish 25 28 68 01 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 26 24 03 03 BLUE BANISTERS Lana Del Rey 27 22 11 01 DONDA Kanye West 28 25 417 01 21 Adele 29 27 105 01 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 30 NE 01 30 DAY/NIGHT Parcels 31 29 368 01 1989 Taylor Swift 32 32 303 01 CURTAIN CALL: THE HITS Eminem 33 09 04 01 MUSIC OF THE SPHERES Coldplay 34 NE 01 34 SPRINGTIME Springtime 35 NE 01 35 VALENTINE Snail Mail 36 34 116 01 LOVER Taylor Swift 37 33 191 07 THIS ONE'S FOR YOU Luke Combs 38 39 48 01 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 39 36 71 01 SHOOT FOR THE STARS, AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 40 88 118 01 RED Taylor Swift 41 40 130 07 DIVINELY UNINSPIRED TO A HELLISH EXTENT Lewis Capaldi 42 38 28 01 FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 43 37 160 01 BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY Queen / Soundtrack 44 42 44 02 DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM Morgan Wallen 45 45 286 01 TEENAGE DREAM: THE COMPLETE CONFECTION Katy Perry 46 43 206 08 DUA LIPA Dua Lipa 47 60 171 01 ASTROWORLD Travis Scott 48 44 209 01 REPUTATION Taylor Swift 49 52 191 02 ? XXXTENTACION 50 47 385 01 X Ed Sheeran In bizarre news, Adele might be returning to #1 this coming week. Not for legitimate purposes but because ARIA just posted their mid-week preview and the only Taylor Swift debuts are the new versions of "Red", "We Are Never Getting Back Together", and also "I Bet You Think About Me", which would be somewhere along the lines of the 2nd, 7th & 9th highest entries she naturally would look poised for and doesn't even include the song that's being promoted by Hot Hits Australia or you know, either version of "All Too Well" which has been leading on Spotify all week. Make no mistake that if combined, "All Too Well (Taylor's Version)" is absolutely a lock for #1, if not then I suspect it's a close miss, but basically if there are any Swifties reading this then by all means raise hell with ARIA before they out-parody themselves. In this week news, Post Malone gets into the top 10 after missing out with his last single, evidently The Weeknd has a knack for low top 10 debuts this year. I need not dwell on the inauspicious timing of the arrival of two new Travis Scott songs though I will point out that while Today's Top Hits on Spotify has been steadily sliding "ESCAPE PLAN" down its playlist in the past week, Hot Hits Australia, slow as they ever are, waited until after Travis Scott was somewhat complicit in the circumstances surrounding the deaths of 10 concert goers to ADD the song to their playlist which is certainly a choice. Silk Sonic arrive with their 3rd top 40 hit and it looks like "Smokin Out The Window" should be vaulting in or towards the top 10 next week. To the shock of (I assume) nobody, ABBA arrive at the #1 spot with "Voyage", their first stint at #1 since "ABBA Gold" started stuffing stockings in 1992, which I believe in some respects might make it my birthday #1 although it depends on your interpretation of which weeks line up to which days of which I don't think there's a clear answer to. So it's either that or a Simple Minds Greatest Hits and don't you forget it. Radiohead are immensely good at hitting the #2 spot on the album chart and in fact did it with both "Kid A" and "Amnesiac"...and every studio album that followed them. So for a change of pace, the new "Kid A Mnesia" collection enters at a modest #3, though being ahead of the streaming giants does lean big credence to the idea that Radiohead could easily get a #1 album if they stop choosing the worst weeks to release on. Bullet For My Valentine have been hitting the top 10 regularly since 2008, even the #1 spot in 2015 but this week they're a little lower in the top 20. Summer Walker also doesn't *quite* match the #17 peak of "Over It" but she's close on a tougher week. Hockey Dad's new live album release does not contain any transmissions to the one armed scissor, nor any hexes that were delivered spent, but it does chart slightly higher than At The Drive-In's "Relationship Of Command" and holy shit what a banger of an album that is. Local but overseas based spacebar boycotters Parcels score their first ever top 50 album this week while we have yet another Gareth Liddiard side project entering with the self-titled first album for Springtime. Snail Mail is also debuting for the first time. Next week's album chart has a bit more safe certainty on Taylor Swift debuting at #1, and she'll likely be joined by Silk Sonic, Flight Facilities, Courtney Barnett and Little Mix in the top 10. IDLES & Rod Stewart should also get in somewhere.
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Buzzjack's Favourite UK No 1 Single Of The 80s
I'll try to give this a go but I'll definitely need to do some research first.
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Spotify & Apple Music Chart Discussion
Really don't get why the OCC can't just make it mouse-over scroll or alt-text if they insist on their ugly all-caps format.