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The whole concert in Singapore: https://www.periscope.tv/w/1vOGwWmYyyoGB They did Said It All, dylandog :) They must have heard it's indispensable :P Has Gary ever been in Singapore solo? My impression was that he got the best crowd reaction, especially when he said his name. Oh, the crowd really loved Pray :)

It was a proper gig, Elisabeth. The Singapore gig was announced in January, if I remember correctly and the Bankok one in February. Take That were received very well in Bangkok and they got an amazing review for their gig.

And the 2 of them would be called "Take Direction" :P or "That One". Either one sounds better/funnier than "Boyslife"

What baffles me most is that, over time, they've done a number of private gigs for hardcore fans. On these occasions, they could have left out even the "indispensable" songs and done exclusively songs never performed before. An arena or stadium gig sets certain restrictions to the setlist, indeed, cause there's a high probability that most of the audience are not hardcore fans, but what's their excuse when doing private gigs? As much as it pains me to say it, I think there's a certain laziness involved here. They just can't be bothered to rehearse new songs.

Even if it goes against everything I believe in, I'm gonna spam Gary till June with song requests for Hyde Park. Even if it means he unfollows me or blocks me :) I'm pretty sure Babe, Could It be Magic, Everything Changes are not indispensable songs like RTW or BFG. They could replace them, once in a while, with 3 songs that fans are dying to hear. Seriously, they have some little gems they've never performed in their discography, why not perform them? I understand that they have so many hits they feel they can't leave out, but, once you have RTW, Patience and BFG in your setlist, certainly you can play more with the rest of the songs.

Same old setlist in Bangkok :banghead: :no: https://www.facebook.com/257023904330019/ph...e=3&theater Why can't they do, for once, at least a couple of songs they've never performed live? They could have tried some of the new songs: WYBTFM or Carry Me Home or Freeze. Not to mention the poor BW album always being paid dust too. I usually love the boys, but, whenever I see the setlist, I could strangle them.

It's only 2 of them, pippa. This sounds like a car crash, no matter how many members get involved, imo.

This is just too weird - what are they gonna sing, who'll take the lead? They could sing Boyzone songs, cause Westlife are used to covers :P I know, I know, that was mean :D Aside from the fans, the rest of the world will perceive this as the ultimate act of desperation. That's another reason I like TT for: they have revolving doors only for the founding members - it's either them or nobody.

I was a BSB fan (actually a Nick Carter fan when I was a kid, shamefully :P), but the last I heard from them was when they released Incomplete. I know they have released stuff since then, but I honestly can't name one single song of theirs from this era. Personally, for me, BSB are a teenage crush and nothing more. Certainly, I can't say any of their songs holds a deep meaning for me. They probably were the biggest boyband in the world at one point, but right now, I think they're exclusively a USA phenomenon. But I could be wrong and maybe the rest of Europe has kept the pace with them.

I found the Ivors guidelines: http://basca.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/The...0Guidelines.pdf Yes, DI would have stood a chance had the record company submitted it :( This year, it's also too late for TT or Gary to get any Ivors if no one submitted anything from them. The deadline for entry was February, 5. I've had that feeling for a while now, dylandog. TT clearly are no longer a priority for Universal, which is baffling, considering they're one of the acts with a fairly steady fanbase and they're prone to make the record company lots of money if promoted properly.

The problem with the Ivors is that the song has to chart in top 75 or be on an album that charted inside top 75, as far as I'm aware. Plus, somebody has to submit the song and I doubt Gary would have submitted his own work himself. But I agree that Dying Inside deserves an Ivor. For me, that song is the benchmark against which everything else is compared. I realize that a song like that comes once in a lifetime, but I'd be happy if all the other songs would try to approach the same level of honesty and raw emotion. I regret that fans didn't rally and submit DI to the Ivors in 2013 - we could have all pitched in and paid the administration fee. I agree that whatever TT put out from now on has to be outstanding in order for the boys to get some more awards. It's a shame that they eliminated the Best Live Act category, cause that is where the boys truly blow everyone else out of the water.

I get this. But my point was that, if the same rules apply to everyone, Adele's album should have been up for nominations and awards in 2017. That's all. I realize that, in the industry, money talks and sales are almighty, but, if there are some formal rules of organization, I would expect them to be applied to everyone. III didn' t qualify for the Brits in 2015, because it was brought out too late in 2014 (or so they said); therefore, anyone would assume that, if Adele released her album in November/December 2015, then it shouldn't be eligible for the 2016 Brits. They could have given her all the awards they wanted, as far as I'm concerned (not that I believe that 25 is worthy of that many accolades), as long as they respected the rules and did it in 2017. That's what really makes me angry, not so much the fact that TT have been unjustly snubbed. You're actually right; they seem to make the "rules" as they go along. To be fair, for me, III is holding up quite well and I'm now sure I like it better than BW, for the simple fact that it sounds more mature and less neutral.

I, for one, believe that III (bar Hey Boy) is far superior to 25. If 25 - that got the same kind of reviews that III did - could win 4 Brits, surely TT could at least have been nominated. Anyway, the point I was making was that, if III wasn't eligible in 2014, then 25 shouldn't have been eligible this year, that simple. It's just a matter of principle. I guess TT would have to die to get a shot at some acknowledgement from these snobs. :angry:

Probably the year they stop having double standards, Jay :D 2 years ago, TT's album wasn't eligible because it was released too late, but this year, Adele's album won 4 awards despite having been released around the same time as TT's. If that doesn't talk of hypocrisy and snobbery, I don't know what will.

I agree with you, Kath. I can't stand these shows either - I never look at X Factor or The Voice, not even here in Romania, where the format is relatively new and successful. My hope is that Gary comes up with something new and different. His record label did go bankrupt after all because he was genuinely interested in investing in real talent, unlike Cowell who drops an artist when the money isn't satisfactory.

At this point, any show would be more successful than The X Factor :P I imagine Gary wants to discover singer-songwriters. That's what I hope the show is about. It would be pointless to have another karaoke style show on tv. People are sick of the XF and The Voice.

Tbh, if Gary doesn't quit making music, this news makes me extremely happy, cause I'm having serious Barlow withdrawal symptoms right now :P

Maybe the Las Vegas shows will inspire them and they'll write a new album during that period. At least that's what I'm hoping. It wouldn't be wise for them to stay away from the European limelight for too long.

There are talks of a Las Vegas residency for Take That. Is this true? It is still premature and might not be happening until 2017. It's something we're incredibly proud to be asked to do and are very excited about. We're talking a type of show in Vegas that we won't be doing anywhere else in the world and we'll be doing it for a few years, so we're really looking forward to that. I think it's a step forward in the band's career by broadening our horizons and going to a new country. We will be doing a bespoke Vegas show and it will be very theatrical. http://news.asiaone.com/news/showbiz/take-...G0LmVq.xLe85LFi.

They've been speaking about this new album since last year. Personally, I'm glad they're doing it this year. They can't afford anymore to have big gaps between albums. People would forget about them and move on. Besides, I think they're trying to get creative as long as they can do it. Gary said that the Las Vegas residence is due to last several years, so I doubt they'll be putting out new music during that time :( The 2012 album would have probably happened had Jason made up his mind. But at least we got Gary's solo album in 2013 :D

There's something about airplay that I don't get: why do radios prefer to play older singles than newer ones? I find it a bit strange that they'd rather play Could It Be Magic or Relight or I Found Heaven (really?????) instead of Said It All, for example. I can understand BFG, but It Only Takes A Minute over Hold Up A Light or When We Were Young or Kidz? It makes no sense. You do start to wonder what a single must sound like in order to be played by radios. It's surprising that These Days is getting almost as much airplay as Rule the World and it's their 2nd most played single. http://comparemyradio.com/artists/Take_That/tracks I'm still waiting for Romanians to catch up with UK radios and with this century :)) This week, for the 1st time EVER, Never Forget was played on one of our tv channels - and the biggest one at that, on one of the most watched shows. But it's usually BFG that gets played constantly here.

Let In the Sun would have charted decently had the promotion not been such a disaster. The physicals went to no 1, but that was useless since they were released a week later than the digital version. There have been a lot of wasted opportunities over time :( Tbh, I don't have many regrets for the 2nd and 3rd single from Progress, but I do feel sad that the singles from III were handled so badly. Higher than Higher could have as well never happened - not even fans knew about its release. And I agree with the lack of b-sides being an important factor in the decline of their singles sales. I did buy their single cd-s, but they've remained unsealed, because I already have the tracks from the album. Whoever is buying nowadays their single cd-s is doing it out of loyalty and because they are collectioners, but the casual buyer has absolutely no reason to invest 5 or 10 pounds in a simple track. I've seen lots of artists release 2 or 3 singles before their album. Maybe that's a strategy TT should try as well? They could try releasing 2 singles in 5 weeks and then drop the album. PS: Does anyone know why Never Forget - the Ultimate Collection has been in top 100 on iTunes for over a week now? What brought this surge on?

Unless you approach a very personal subject - lyrically- every song is, to a certain extent, generic. But if we apply that notion to songs like Ascension, then what term do we use for 1D, Justin Bieber, Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, Olly, Britney, Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith, Adele and so on? Given the theme of the movie, the soundtrack fits like a glove. And the string section is sooo beautiful and the crescendo so dramatic that I can't help but feel entranced and moved. Of course not everyone will like the song, but I don't think it's right to call it generic either. It's not exactly a commercial song and I don't see radios hurrying to play it. I, for one, like it and I'm intrigued to hear what the rest of the album sounds like. As for TT and Robbie needing each other, I agree to it from a certain point of view: TT need Robbie business wise, to sell more, and Robbie needs TT creatively. But that's it. Robbie will probably continue to sell well no matter what he puts out and TT will continue to create music as they please and to tour, no matter what the sales. And Jason - well, he only needs to buy himself a park with lots of benches :P I doubt he'll ever be in need of money. It would be good if he agreed to do at least one gig with the boys again.

I love Ascension. It sounds very dramatic and rockish. When I first heard it, I thought it would be a good song for Eurovision - but in a good way. People have been saying that Gary keeps his best work for TT, but lately, I have the impression that his best work has been the one he's done for others. The songs for all the musicals and for the movie, to me at least. sound better and more mature than what he's done with TT. If anyone wants to listen to Ascension: http://milly-gb.tumblr.com/post/1385459586...rack-written-by

Laura, this has nothing to do with the Gary-Robbie relationship. The fact that they may be friends doesn't mean that TT fans have to start liking Robbie from a musical point of view. As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy that Gary and Robbie made up, but, to me, Robbie will always have an unlikeable personality and voice. Gary is also friends with Harry Styles - that does not mean that Gary's fans have to like him or want him on the band. We can still make up our own minds. We have to learn to distinguish between the boys' private life and their career. If reunion plans are delayed because of Robbie, that's a sign that he couldn't care less about TT and he has no respect for their history.