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If the cd-s for LITS have been dispatched and some of them delivered, do they count for this week or for next week?

I won't hide the fact that I'm first and foremost a GB girl :) But I do love TT and I do like songs where Gary doesn't take the lead - What Is Love, Wooden Boat, Mancunian Way, Hold Up A Light and so on. I just have a hard time listening to Mark's voice and his solo tour did prove that he doesn't have that many fans, which ultimately means that most TT fans = GB fans. When TT released Shine, they were still relishing from the benefits of their reunion and Mark's reputation hadn't been severely tarnished - 2 important factors that they won't benefit now from. Besides, Shine was a really strong single. I'm just trying to think from a commercial point of view. If a track with Gary's lead vocals didn't do well, what chances does 1 of Mark's tracks stand? But, aside from all this, I honestly believe there are stronger songs on III than the ones sung by Mark. I Like It is so quirky and fun and captivating and it's better than all of Mark's songs on III. That's one example. And, as I said, people really like Higher than Higher and radios could easily embrace a track like that. I know that Mark's fans really want a single where he takes the lead, but singles should be chosen according to other criteria. They need a strong song and they need promotion. Just look at Let Me Go. It's still in top 300 after all this time, because it was a strong single. Anyway, I'll support TT even if they do decide to release Lovelife or Into the Wild.

I really don't like Lovelife. The only catchy line is "Do you really love life?" and that sounds like it's taken from Lady Gaga's Telephone. If they HAVE to go with a Mark led song, I'd rather it was Into the Wild, but I still don't see why they wouldn't go with a stronger song on the album instead of pleasing a few hundreds of Mark's fans.

I still think we're gonna get a 3rd single as well - Flaws, Howard's favorite. They've done a video for Get Ready - Gary's favorite, LITS - Mark's favorite and they'll do one for Flaws. I really think Flaws and Higher than Higher could do well, IF promoted. They were the most requested songs for the tour. I've even seen a good cover of Flaws on yt, which means the song could reach a wider audience and it resembles the BW sound. I'm completely confused about LITS. It's like they wanted to let in slip under the radar. No promotion, no official announcement of the release, no effort from either the label or the boys. On a side note, I'm completely mesmerized by the score of Finding Neverland. If Gary released tomorrow When Your Feet Don't Touch the Ground as a single, I'd be the 1st person to buy it. I'm probably more excited about FN than I am about III.

No sign of LITS in the midweeks. :cry: Album's at 25, but I expect it to end up higher on Sunday.

If they had chosen to release it last week, it could have charted quite decently: the effect of the Brits + the CD-s + the fans' downloads. It could have charted in top 70 for sure. Now we'll be lucky if it charts at all :( And there's absolutely no promotion. Most fans aren't even aware that it's been released. :cry: You know LITS isn't doing well when even Let Me Go is more downloaded from Amazon.

There's also another problem. The fact that the only version available is the album one stops fans from downloading the song again from iTunes. They have already downloaded it when they downloaded the whole album, so they can't do it again. And many of them won't bother downloading from Amazon or HMV :(

The download version of the single is released today: DawBell @DawBell Morning #Thatters! This week sees the release of @takethat's #LetInTheSun! This makes no sense. They should have waited till the CD-s were ready. Besides, the only iTunes and Amazon versions are the album ones.

So, These Days seems to have sold ~6000 copies last week and III ~ 7000 -7500 copies. I guess that's not too bad. Do we know approximately the overall figures both for These Days and III? It would have been nice to know where LITS charted, based on sales+streaming.

I think we'll have another album of original material before the Greatest Hits album. Mark said that they're back in the studio, writing, so it's either a whole new album or new songs to be included on the Greatest Hits album.

Do we know when LITS is officially released? The Universal store site says that the CD will be released on March, 9, but the official chart company says the single is released today. This is gonna be a mess.

On sales alone, Let In the Sun charted at 93. Streaming works against TT once again :( And III isn't even in top 100 of the albums streaming chart :( The album could have charted so much higher if people had streamed it. But it goes to show they can still be relevant on sales alone.

I think that was the journalist from The Guardian. She had that line prepared even before she saw that the venue was full, because that line was suggested by an idiot on twitter (I saw the whole conversation between the 2, so I know for sure it's true). She saw that there were tickets available (because TT put out some last minute tickets, although the initial ones had been all sold out) and she stated it on twitter, at which point some witted idiot suggested that Jason might have had more fans than anyone believed. And the journalist was so delighted that she said that line would make it into the article - which it did. But she admitted herself in the same article that there was not one empty seat in the whole venue. Caroline Sullivan‏@TheCSullivan I'm at Take That's gig at Shepherd's Bush Empire, which, strangely, isn't sold out. Why is this? Hasief Ardiasyah ‏@hasief Feb 23 @TheCSullivan Jason Orange had more fans than anyone ever imagined? Caroline Sullivan ‏@TheCSullivan Feb 23 @hasief That's brilliant. It's going into my review. TT might not have the same amount of fans they used to, but they can still fill venues, that's for sure. I agree that the tax scandal had a big impact. I just hope that the fans that have stuck with them so far will be there for future records as well, so that they can make music for as long as they want to, even if they won't set the charts alight anymore. I want them to have hit after hit, but most of all, I want to enjoy their music. Personally, for me, many of the songs on III are better than what I've heard from Ed Sheeran or Sam Smith (I'm aware these are just my personal tastes, so it's not a dig on these 2 artists). Ed and Sam have been supported by radio stations and hyped big time, so it's natural for them to sell loads, I'd say with minimum promotion, but that's not exactly true, since I saw them everywhere. We'll just have to wait and see if, in 20 years time, they can still sell this much without much help.

I'm maintaining some optimism that Let In the Sun will chart - no matter how low. It would have probably charted this week if fans had downloaded it this week. But considering fans are aware that the single is released on the 9th, they could be waiting till then to buy it.

I thought they would perform too, but someone on twitter just told me there would only be an interview with little A and D :(

Agree with everything. Although Let In the Sun is getting good reviews, I'd have much preferred Higher than Higher for the 2nd single.

Unfortunately they won't be performing. Without promotion, the single won't do well. :cry: And if the promotion for the 2nd single is so low, I don't even want to imagine what it'll be like for the 3rd single. I'd be so disappointed if the 3rd single was Flaws and it flopped :cry:

FN is probably overshadowing TT at the moment, but it's only natural. Success on Broadway could come once in a lifetime, I can't blame Gary for putting his heart and soul into it. I'm very excited myself, probably even more than about the tour. But I'm sure that, when the tour begins, Gary will focus on it and nothing else.

Can it chart even if it hasn't been released as a single yet?

I absolutely love Gary's take on these songs. The performance is not flawless, but it's so charged emotionally that it gives me goosebumps: I agree. Jeremy Jordan seemed a much better choice for FN. I'm not impressed with Matthew Morrison after seeing some rehearsal videos and after his pre-Oscars performance. His voice sounds quite weak.

The visuals were amazing last night. It's great to see the album climbing as well after last night. Just hope it can maintain momentum for a while.

They usually are <_< The Guardian is the favorite place for haters to get together.

Here is Rita singing Play, written by Gary and Eliot for FN: https://screen.yahoo.com/music/play-215836844.html In my opinion, Rita didn't sound so well. The song is good, but the performance is a bit of a mess. And M. Morrison singing Neverland: https://screen.yahoo.com/music/neverland-190647175.html But, to be honest, I prefer the song written for Around the World in 80 days and sung by Nicole. It's really catchy: https://screen.yahoo.com/him-193049409.html...&soc_trk=tw My favorite so far remains When Your Feet Don't Touch the Ground.

I don't know if either of you has heard the interview Gary did in the States. He's talking about Dying Inside and God. I'd love for the Americans to embrace Gary's solo material. https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmentertainmen...ny-other-things

Although I'm particularly glad for Let Me Go, I'm a bit disappointed they didn't do Flaws and Portrait. They could have left out Shine and Greatest Day and done these 2 new songs.