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this... especially Kate Bush and Bjork. And Lykke Li....

aww... used to love her - that laugh..... unfortunately, I'm the wrong colour, wrong sex and I can't cook ;)

'Shut Up and Drive' - a truly, truly appalling track.

very kind... however, must be honest.... I didn't realise I'd actually stopped you....

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And YOU, sunshine, need to wake up and grow up...and realise the correct way in an ADULT conversation is not to insult and swear - it makes you appear about 15 years old with a protruding bottom lip and a hurt look on your face - most embarrassing. I think you're talking out of your arse, by the way - you have some rose-tinted view of an industry that is dying..... tours these days HARDLY EVER make any money - hence ticket prices are sky high, attendances are so low and bands are touring less and less (unless they're touring sweatshops, workingmen's clubs and suburban university halls). Plus, the bands you mention are bands that never ever ever shifted units anyway, major label or not.... I'd like some examples of bands who tour just for the hell of it who still sell deent amounts of their music.... because you've failed to provide these in your last post. And saring music for free - giving bands more exposure?!?!? You say this as if you're very kindly doing them a favour by robbing their music then passing it on to your mates - for free. Oh please... wake up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Because whether you can accept it or not - musicians and record companies DO still make money from sales of physical and digital releases. And obviously without this money, however big or small, bands will NOT have the opportunity to release ANYTHING because they'll get dropped - simple. Whilst music is an art form, it's an art form supported by heavy handed businessmen who think nothing of dropping an artist of promise because they've failed to shift the required amount of units. And whilst you put forward that you spend money on gigs etc... err... who finances tours? Yes - record companies. Why? To shift units. If units don't shift = no tours. Bands tour for one reason only - to promote product. Tours are usually financed on the understanding that the record company will make this loan back on the back of sales after the shows. If these sales don't happen..... what happends then? Do you really think any record company will finance a tour, something that's incredibly and increasingly expensive, if the artist's music isn't selling? Of course not. So stealing music... you're your own worst enemy. Music theft has resulted in the lack of a single record shop on most high streets these days, it's resulted in less-selling smaller bands being dropped by nervous labels. It's resulted in bands throwing in the towel because they just can't make a decent wage out of the industry any more. And worse than all this, it's cheapened the industry - made music something that's throwaway..... when you actually PAY for something, you usually treasure it more - a slow-buning album, for example, if I'd paid good money for it, I'd be more inclined to persevere with it than just disregard it and forget about it stashed away on my hard drive among a glut of other stuff I like a bit more right now. There's a difference in listening to something and pinching it. And then, even worse, AFTER pinching it, sharing it along the line to others. It doesn't matter whether you charge for copying CDs for mates or not - that's irrelevant. best Regards Elitist Prick

I never really liked or bought cassettes..... it was always a pain the arse to rewind and fast forward to the songs you wanted to hear. I remember that years ago, instead of Christmas cards, I used to do a compilation tape for my mates with a specially designed fold-out inlay with photos of us from the year. Still got copies of most of them somewhere. Also, the quality deteriorated too quickly.... even if rewound, after a few years, tapes would sound like they'd been recorded underwater by someone on smack.... Tapes I wouldn't throw out? Probably the ones I recorded on a Sunday, slaving over a hot pause button, listening to the top 40... Peter Kay spoke about this on one of his tours and it's exactly what I used to do... try to record the song minus the DJ introduction, so it'd play seamlessly. Used to take ages! Also, some I recorded many moons ago off the telly.... old Kenny Everett shows and stuff - although why I want to keep them when they're all on DVD now is anyone's business.

No need to come across all Kevin teenager, Chris... maybe keep the 'f*ck yous' for the NME messageboards - it's about their mentality and age bracket. Whilst certain members here think that yes, this is the way to put your opinion forward, umm.. nah, it's not. Not ever. However.... illegal downloading is stealing - end of. If you want to 'discover music'...er...what the hell's wrong with YouTube? 99% of music, however alternative, is on there...... you can listen, decide if you like... then either buy or not bother. Surely this is a fairer way to 'discover music'? Same for your Dad - there's been times when I, too, can't afford to purchase the music I want..... so I listen online. I make a wish list then, Christmas, birthdays or when I can afford, then I buy. I'm 1000% against music theft, illegal downloading...... it's inexcusable in this day and age. In the long run we all lose and to say artists don't make money from CD album sales is total nonsense... plus, if an album fails to shift units, digital or physical, then the right of the artist to release their music commercially is taken away from them - because record companies these days simply drop them due to them not being able to afford to hold onto artists that don't bring in returns. Unlike say a shop that's insured for shoplifting - record companies don't get any compensation once an album is leaked, stolen and then distributed to thousands.

Chris... true music fans do not steal music - end of. And this chatter of DJing with CD players and MP3s? Yes... sacrilege. Absolutely. I've DJ'd for over 20 years - CDs and MP3s are a ghastly, cop-out alternative to vinyl. But they're handy for people who aren't very good DJs, I give you that.

I decided to go for our finest female singer right now, Adele... but.... not sure which f these 3 to go with...opinions welcome please http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm76/blissfulignorance_2008/adelerollingblue.jpg blue http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm76/blissfulignorance_2008/adelerolling.jpg red http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm76/blissfulignorance_2008/adelerollingplain.jpg plain ?

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Plus - her cover of one of my favourite songs by The Cure, 'Lovesong' is inspired.... :heart:

'19' was, bar the brilliant singles, a very self-indulgent, patchy and po-faced affair.... '21', from what I've heard, is a major improvement. And isn't the cover GORGEOUS?! :wub: I love Adele - and she was superb on Alan Carr's show last night - the chat and the live performance - faultless. A class act.

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seriously lovely cover, Mikey - sometimes, simplicity is the key to a great design. I totally forgot to vote last week, so my bad....

The love of music comes down to the look, feel...even the smell...of a new record - scouring the sleeve, the lyrics, checking the artwork...... none of these you can really do with downloading, so I absolutely stick to my statement that real music lovers buy 'product' as opposed to the ones who just get their credit card out for a few songs... or the ones who sneak around robbing what they can from illegal download sites. There's always been so, so much more to being a music obsessive than simply listening to the music.

I like the single a lot - even if he sounds like someone doing a Bryan Ferry / David Sylvian impression.

Anything featuring Akon is, by association, totally vile...so..... Gwen for me this time.

I love the 2 you've chosen, Notso....but I do seriously love your design for The Suburbs.... you're right... it's impossible to pick a favourite of your own, really.

Fergie... yeeeeeurchhhhh :puke2:

There's been some great 180gram vinyl re-releases of late, too - most of The Smiths albums, Hounds of Love, Sensual World by Kate, the Cocteau Twins back catalogue (BEAUTIFULLY re-packaged by Vaughan Oliver :wub: ), and some of the ABBA albums, too. Worth checking are the releases by Ben Watt's Buzzin' Fly label - a company that take graphic design to a whole new level - works of art, frameable, every one of them. Who wants a bloody download littering up your hard-drive that you forget all about after a fortnight when you can have real, tangible, product like this? There simply isn't any competition. Then of course, there's the Lemon Jelly releases on vinyl - I have a lovely gold 7" vinyl in a hessian sack-cloth sleeve by them, and some gorgeous 10" singles, too, as well as their 2 'proper' albums (KY is worth a mint now - rare, too). Vinyl/CDs are for music lovers..... downloads are for casual music observers. Definitely not for me.

I buy some picture discs... and some of the 7" singles released now, they're gorgeous - the Hurts ones last year, Florence, Bombay Bicycle Club, Antony and the Johnsons, Bat For Lashes... all of them in gorgeous packaging - which is the vital ingredient missing from MP3s...... artwork is almost as important as the music to me - and MP3 means absolutely nothing to me..... it's disposable, clinical and lacks.....information. Sarfraz Manzoor has written a brilliant piece about the decline of HMV..... which is sad news as I'm an ex employee from many moons ago...... it sums up exactly how I feel about music being taken over by this supposed 'digital revolution'.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12151157

Vinyl's huge again - all the major collectible stuff is on vinyl these days - thanks to the Vinyl Factory and their gorgeous limited edition releases - their work with Massve Attack, Pet Shop Boys, Grace Jones and now the stunning Bryan Ferry releases have ensured everyday collectors can now own seriously collectible releases. I have lots of their stuff - the Massive Attack 12" for Splitting the Atom's worth hundreds of pounds now - as will the limited 12" they've just done for Atlas Air... grab one quick ;)

Fergie's the most dire on that list - Fergie - the only woman who could have hit whilst gargling phlegm. Which, in reality, it sounds like she was doing when she released the Godawful Big Girls Don't Cry......