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to be fair, i kinda agree.. i respect her for doing the album she wanted but then i'm also super glad that she ended up working with max :lol:

hun, with all due respect, step the f*ck down - don't call me toxic/entitled for having an opinion. ariana + her music got me through months of depression and anxiety having been caught in the manchester bombing. forgive me for being upset that i don't like "artist album" she put out when this so called 'artistry' wreaks of pharrell; there's no ariana in the majority of these songs. + it's not using it as a platform when it's already there - it's wasting it when you don't use it & there's a difference.

you say that but the songs you’ve pointed out as highlights came from the “after sessions” (ie. after the label heard the pharrell stuff) & they’re the tracks she did with max/savan/ilya so not exactly the album she wanted to create.

why not, though? this was l i t e r a l l y a 'foot up' for her to become the top dog + she has missed the mark. she has not delivered. as a fan, that's upsetting because i want her to do as well as she can (+ sh!t does she deserve it after what she's been through). but what about what her fans wanted? why should we accept sub-par because it's "what she wanted"? i know that i & 16000 others from the manchester gig would have been comforted by something a little more familiar from her. i say this from a place of love because i wouldn't want her to feel suffocated but you cannot be as commercially pop as she has been, generate hype via her legions of fans who have got onboard because of her POP music + then be disappointed when they turn their noses up at a primarily melodically-devoid r&b album with little-to-no pop elements. + the label knew exactly what they were doing with this because they deliberately put out the poppiest single first. then 'the light is coming' was very poorly received + the 'second official single' was pushed through, a max/savan/ilya production. the third single will no doubt be 'breathin'' (another max/savan/ilya production) because a very small amount of people are here for this 'sound' she wanted. so you go ahead + be 'not upset' all you like - but i feel we are more than entitled to feel disappointed + upset that a pop singer didn't make a pop album, like we were expecting. just as she's entitled to feel disappointed that she made the album that she wanted + it tanks, because it will - this will not do well past the fanbase.

no tears isn’t pharrell - it’s max + co! can’t you tell?! it’s vastly superior haha.

except an annoying voice!

it’s the album she should have been allowed to make next. this was her chance to fully cement herself as the #1 pop girl + she doesn’t deliver a pop album? i’m with you guys that are disappointed. it’s when i think about what it could have been.

yeah, it was good (for him).. in 2013!

what is most upsetting about this is these are just literally textbook pharrell productions. i swear, i thought marilyn monroe was starting like 3 times.. it’s so bad. everytime + breathing stand out by miles because they’re from a team who know how to write + produce a song. just imagine an album of that. i just can’t see how the label heard the album + thought it was a passable follow-up.

i’d made peace with the fact that she wouldn’t be making another dangerous woman-style pop album when we heard the first 3 tracks but a little part of me was hoping she’d sneak a basic bop in for us. she didn’t. the only things to keep for me are ‘everytime’ & ‘breathin’ + the singles (not tlic). the album is very much the label letting her “express her artistry” but for me it just got a little samey after 15 songs. the pharrell songs are trash + have really pulled the album down. they stand out like a sore thumb because on an album that’s supposed to be a progression, those songs are dragging her back to 2013 as he obviously doesn’t know how to produce anything else. the hip hop beat isn’t a new sound from her, as such, because she gave us hints of it on dangerous woman but it’s strange that we’ve been given an album of it. it will probably grow but i guarantee you that this will nowhere close to smash because it will be a shock for the gp. + when it’s not what they’re expecting, the word of mouth will spread + casuals will think “oh, i won’t bother then”.

omg jonjo you legend, i thought i’d missed out on that! tysm.

what about dancing queen?

lmao it was the third gimme missing that threw me off!

wouldn’t it be great for this to turn into one of those radio 2 hits that heart + the likes picked up. ngl though, i swear faye came in on the second verse but it was just claire singing in a lower register :lol: i got the personalised signed album, couldn’t be bothered with the candle.. ha

omg i knew that ‘gimme gimme gimme’ would be track 10. there’s no way she’d throw an album to the gays + not include that anthem!

he probably should've said major market :lol:

for sure - i think the best route for her now is to try & carve out a tv career until she's old enough to do something along the ac route.

i feel bad because she's stuck in a niche genre - the 14 year olds that loved 'all about that bass' are now 18 & aren't interested. they tried a maturer sound with the second album, it didn't work & the label have obviously switched her back to the bubblegum pop which no longer has a market. it's a shame, 'cause she's a pretty good songwriter & has a sweet personality but, because she lacks the sex appeal, the label don't know what to do with her now the kids aren't interested.

they were £24.99 + £4.99 postage

what a funny way to spell leave

#9 peak in the UK.. we’ll take it

soo.. i absolutely loved this - it was just camp & fabulous. i found myself enjoying the lesser-known tracks even more than the well known ones because they felt fresher. it's a 2 hour riot, doesn't take itself too seriously, retains all of the tone, warmth & heart from the first.. a really great se/prequel.

hahaha. they'll be lucky to scrape 4 million a week with this panel.

its worth noting that this is max written but it’s produced by ilya.

it’s a grower.. stick with it