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http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/therobbiewilliamssiteukau/15797660.jpg My problem was always Gary. I wanted to crush him. Even when he was down I didn't let go. The Sun 9th November Gordon Smart Bizarre Editor http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/therobbiewilliamssiteukau/Picture11-9.png Relight My Fire ... Robbie Williams says he is 'incredibly happy' with the reunion TAKE THAT mania has reached an all-time high over the past few weeks. The band announced a record-breaking stadium tour and their first new album for 15 years featuring the full original line-up. But the road to the big announcement at the Savoy Hotel two weeks ago was far from smooth. Every Take That fan has been gripped by the story of the lads' reconciliation with ROBBIE. And for the first time, on Saturday night millions of TV viewers will be able to see exactly what unravelled behind the scenes. http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/therobbiewilliamssiteukau/Picture12-6.png Making music ... Howard goes back to the studio The warts-and-all documentary at 9.30pm on ITV1 - straight after X Factor - lifts the lid on some intimate scenes as the band settled their issues. And it is seriously gripping stuff. Cameras followed GARY BARLOW, 39, MARK OWEN, 38, JASON ORANGE, 40, and HOWARD DONALD, 42, as they made peace with Robbie, 36, after a bitter decade apart. http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/therobbiewilliamssiteukau/Picture13-7.png New start ... Take That open up in documentary about their reunion Each member offers a brutally honest - and often shocking - account of their feelings, with some genuinely tear-jerking moments. Robbie is visibly unwell in early scenes, looking like a broken man. After the initial making up, he walks out AGAIN because he isn't ready to emerge from his self-imposed exile. The documentary - Take That: Look Back, Don't Stare - follows Mark Owen as he emerges from rehab and delves into Gary's feelings about his vicious war of words with Robbie. Jason and Howard also open up about their fears of slipping into the background as a pair of "muppets" dancing in the background. It's compelling viewing and something the band are very proud of making. It will be a ratings buster this weekend. Here's a preview of what the band have to say. Robbie One of the most riveting moments sees Gary and Rob open up about their feud. Robbie said: "My problem has always been with Gary. It always was with Gary. I wanted to crush him, I wanted to crush the memory of the band - and I didn't let go. "You know, even when he was down, I didn't let go. And for that I sincerely apologise. But I needed Gary to listen to my truth, to what my experience was, and I needed him to validate it for me. "And he validated it for me. And it was a real f****** magical moment because you realise when two grown-ups meet up and go, 'Here's my truth' you go, 'Yeah, I'm sorry'. "There's room for movement and you realise you only hurt so much because you love them so much." http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/therobbiewilliamssiteukau/Picture14-6.png The rift has healed to the point that they have become incredibly close. Rob added: "He's gone way beyond being a father figure and looking after us, driving this machine and being the captain of the ship. And I'm incredibly happy to be under his tutelage because he's the man." Robbie's apology is genuine and heartfelt, with the excitement about his fresh start. "All of a sudden I'm inspired, there's something to work on and some people to work with. There's nothing for me to do other then be in Take That. "I'm f****** bored. I'm scared, I'm lonely, and I've said everything I want to say in a record. I'm enjoying this sharing too much to want to go back to the Robbie Williams band. "I'm breaking me up. Yeah, I'm breaking me up because of music similarities. "We don't need each other - we want each other. My hope is that that friendship will regenerate itself somehow. I want to play a game where we get to know each other, and the playing of the game is writing the tunes. "It's like that jumping out of a plane thing and I've packed my own parachute - that's really worrying." Robbie walks out on the band again after the Children In Need show last November, when he appeared with Take That on stage for the first time in 15 years. He explained his wobble by saying: "I wasn't very well, physically. I just didn't feel as if I had the energy to do it. "It was a scary prospect to be out there among something so huge, feeling so depleted of life force." Mark One of the most poignant moments in the documentary shows Mark emerging from a month in rehab after confronting his booze demons. He makes a two-mile walk from the rehab centre on the coast as part of the treatment to think about what he has been through. http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/therobbiewilliamssiteukau/Picture15-6.png He said: "I didn't really know I was broke - but I was pretty f****** broke when I look back at it now. Drink and me equals not good, really. "There was a time when I was, like, 'I can't ever go in a studio ever again, I can't do this. It's just not who I am or what I've been doing'. "And then I thought, 'Well, you know it's quite selfish, we've come this far now and done all this work. Don't let everybody down. You've let everybody down enough - you don't want to let them all down again'." Now the band are back together, he spoke about how they will all have to find their role again. He added: "Now Rob's come back into the band, maybe it's time for us to make peace with the whole thing, to reflect a little bit on the journey. Everybody's got to find their space. It's important to find your own space within it all." When Robbie dropped the bombshell that he was leaving for the second time, Mark was the one who encouraged him to re-think. He said: "I went round to Rob's house a couple of times because it's just better if you can talk to each other, I think. "We worked it out that day. We said forget about promotion, forget about touring because that's a big thing. It's always daunting. You know, it's a year. "Let's just say we make this record. Look at how many days it's going to take us max. We worked out it is going to take about 30 days of being in the studio this year. Do you want to do it? "Yeah, I wanna do it. Well, do you have 30 days spare? Yeah, I've got 30 days spare. Well right, let's do it." Mark clashes in one scene with Gary, arguing about ideas in the studio. Mark said: "We have to find a way to agree on something, what's the process there, because we are gonna hit walls." Gary For the first time Gary opens up about the extent of his depression when Robbie attacked him relentlessly as his solo career stalled. The abuse was so bad, at one point he asked the bank if he could change his name on his credit cards. He said: "It was hard watching Rob getting further and further into the distance and I just seemed like I'd gone ten steps back. "It was like a constant daily mock. It followed me everywhere. You just feel like a total loser. http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af167/therobbiewilliamssiteukau/Picture17.png "In fact, I remember asking the bank whether I could change my name on my card. I couldn't face my own name because even over the phone people would hear it and make some wisecrack. "The Rob I'm with now certainly wasn't the guy I was with in the Nineties. I needed those years. I needed that to happen to get to here. I almost want to say thanks. All that s*** was great because it made me reach the bottom. Now look at me. "One of the things that was a big revelation about joining the band this time round was how much I loved everyone's company. "How much I loved hearing about what happened during everyone's weekend. I wasn't interested in that the first time around. "If we hadn't come back together as a band, we wouldn't have seen Rob again. We needed to meet again as equals - with equal success - back in a great place. And we are equals right now. "I'd like Rob to have a real ball with us. I wanna see him alive on stage because I haven't seen it for years. If it helps him and if it helps him find Robbie again, then that's gonna be great." The despair etched on Gary's face when he discovers Robbie has quit again is touching stuff. Gary is filmed saying: "When I heard, just before I went on holiday Rob doesn't want to do it now, I was like, 'What the f***'s this!' I never really wanted to be in a band. I felt like I'd got to the end of Take That and I was saying there goes my long-lost friends and farewell to them, because we'd all been stitched together by a manager, had travelled the world for five years together." Howard & Jason At the press conference a couple of weeks back, in Robbie's words Howard was "the body" and Jason was "the dancer". But in Look Back, Don't Stare, they prove they are equal to the others, offering the toughest criticism of Robbie's return. Robbie asks Howard if he is nervous and he replies: "Yeah, I suppose I am worried about feeling part of it, really - you know, now we have three great writers. We don't just want to be the two muppets in the background. "I remember sending Robbie an email saying this is about our life. This is about the five of us. This is about life." Jason added: "Howard said, 'Should we make up a dance routine so we can show them something when we turn up?' "Look how far we have come since 20 years ago, when it was just dog eat dog. It was every man for himself - and now we try to help each other. It's quite a transformation really. "Aside from the laughs that we shared with the lads, it was all s*** those years. When Rob walked back in the room if felt whole again. Whatever happens, by hook or by crook, we've just got to do it. Whatever it takes - fall-outs, arguments, tears, whatever." Jason takes it badly when Robbie walks out for the second time. He said: "It was like the rug was pulled from under my feet. I was gutted. I actually said to Rob, 'Your whims have a direct effect on us'. But, equally, none of us were going to say 'No' to Rob. "We were going to try to encourage him strongly but we weren't going to say, 'No, you must do this' - because we tried to manipulate him and each other back in the day and we don't want manipulation to be part of it. It was his choice." source: thesun.co.uk courtesy of Jackie at TRWS

Hmm I find it odd that Gary still went ahead with it despite Jason being so against it? I thought they had to agree on everything this time around :o I'll watch it on Saturday. Should be interesting. I hope they have full control of the editing this time around though. :lol:

It has been released on DVD (well worth it - I have watched the U2/Bruce sections tones of times already :wub: ) It has been released on CD now too http://www.atu2.com/news/rock-hall-of-fame...-now-on-cd.html

SPILL THE BEANS :smoke:

No, The Dublin gig will be a private event. No cameras will be allowed :smoke: I want a gig filmed in Argentina :D

I love watching the XF but I wouldn't feel it was right for U2 to appear. It's all too cheesy and fake. They tend to keep their promo to a min. Wossy is gone so Graham Norton? :lol: If Bono wants a big radio hit like he says I fear they will have no choice. :drink:

It won't be out till next year for the 20th Anniversary. I wouldn't be surprised if they left it to next Xmas at this rate. A new album is expected early next year so I doubt they will both come out the same time. We need a DVD of another gig from The Zoo TV tour. It was recently voted the greatest tour of all time. Washinton was filmed so I expect it will be that. ghmISrMkLyM :wub:

Never knew Rob held the record. :o :o Glad U2 are playing there. Could make a very special gig. I am hoping the second DVD will be in either South America or South Africa. I will explode if it is in the US again :smoke:

I doubt U2 will ever appear. I am still in shock that Macca appears and also at the prospect of Prince. It used to just be pop stars but now it is bands and musicians as well. Bon Jovi appears last year and a few weeks ago but then they are no surprise. Very pop rock and I couldn't see them being the type to turn down anything like that. U2 probably would though - a couple of years ago I would have said there is no way they would but why knows now? It is the best type of promo there is. Spanish Eyes :wub:

A fight ? :o Please do tell all :smoke:

How odd that they have dropped the Outstanding Contribution To Music award. They obviously don't feel there is anyone else who deserves it left (that will also accept it obviously) which is a bit silly tbh. Depeche Mode and Blur are long overdue - plus of course an endless amount of others. I was expecting TT to get it this year tbh - would have been nice for Rob to have been the only person to win it two years running :D

Take That tipped to shine at music’s sober new Brit Awards November 8, 2010 By Adam Sherwin Beehive Conspicuous consumption is out at the revamped Brit Awards, which will now culminate with the award of the Best British Album of the year. As revealed by Beehive in July, the music industry wants a more sober showcase for its wares, following Peter Kay’s less than respectful presentation on ITV1 last year. Calling JLS “an all-black, male version of Bucks Fizz” and reminding viewers that that they were missing Muslim Driving School would probably not have happened at the Oscars or Grammys, the new model for the annual bash. The Outstanding Achievement award has been dropped, ending the annual headache for organisers struggling to find someone sufficiently legendary, yet unrewarded, who can keep viewers’ from flicking to the aforesaid driving frolics. Artists will now form the largest single group represented in the electoral college, in a bid to ensure that those honoured have the respect of their peers. This gives artists the power that MPs and trade unions had in the Labour leadership election to over-ride the votes of the majority of ordinary members – in this case journalists, retailers and PRs. Ideally, JLS should argue the merits of their Outta This World album at a series of Brits hustings in front of academy members and rival artists. As with the Labour poll, horse-trading second preference votes will be crucial. If the show is to climax with the Best British Album prize, in an era where single track downloads dominate and long-form sales are falling, then there had better be some worthy nominees. Early favourites must be Take That, who will open the 2011 show, now moved to the O2 Arena. The buzz around the Robbie Williams-powered Progress album, out next week, is good and their topping and tailing the show would be the equivalent of a lifetime achievement prize. Beehive predicts Take That will compete against Tinie Tempah’s Disc-overy debut. The Brit rapper should win the Breakthrough and single prize for Pass Out and his album best represents a hugely successful year for UK urban music. In Peter Kay’s words, there should be “something for the Dads”. Tom Jones’ Praise & Blame would be a popular nominee, if not a winner. Robert Plant, Paul Weller, or Elton John’s recent acclaimed albums would fit the bill too. Plan B’s The Defamation of Strickland Banks will be on the list. It hits the retro-soul commerical spot carved out by Amy’s Back To Black and shows that a young artist, who’s career was going nowhere, can be reinvented with the right support. New singer-songwirter Rumer’s Seasons of My Soul will also be a big winner with artists and has entered the top three in its first week. It could sneak on to the list and someone has to break up the boys’ club. So there’ll be no Oasis-style bad boy antics and it might not be the anarchic Brits of yore but maybe that’s appropriate in this age of austerity. Who knows, it might even be a Brits safe enough for David Cameron to attend? source: beehivecity.com via TRWS

Thanks Stevyy :D Nice to see the album remain at #2 in Europe for a second week. 1-2-2 for a second GH album on the overall European Billboard Album Chart is very impressive, especially at this time of year. Here is the chart runs so far taken from your post on UKMIX Stevyy :D EURO ALBUM CHART: 1-2-2 GER: 1-4-5- UK: 1-2-5-9 AUT: 1-2-6- IRE: 2-4-13-17- BEL WA: 18-2-2-6- DK: 4-2-5- ITA: 3-6- NEL: 3-4-4-8- ESP: 3-5-7- AUS: 6-3-13-21- POR: 4-4-4- SUI: 4-5-6- BEL VL: 6-4-4-4- SWE: 4-4-6- FIN: 16-20- NZ: 17-25-33- MEX: 22-27- NOR: 25-28-

I have to say I am gobsmacked 'The Flood' has not shot to #1. Rihanna is still ahead despite already being out for two weeks. It was #2 on it's first week and #1 last week - total sales already exceed 260K so it really is shocking. I know there has been no promo so far but it is the most played song on British radio so that should easily be enough to ensure it tops the chart. Next week I expect sales will be a lot better on the back of the XF performance, however JLS also have a slot and their single is for CIN so really TT's only opportunity to get to #1 is this week. A lot of people will just buy the album on after the XF performance anyway. I think they will probably get to #1 by Sunday but it won't be by a huge margin which I have to admit I am quite shocked at as the song is very commercial. Will it sell over 100K first week? One thing is for sure, if it sells less than 'Shame's 72K opening sales it will be a disaster considering how much better a song 'The Flood' is. -_-

Around 145,000 copies in the UK. :)

The always brilliant Neil McCormick with yet another interesting piece. :D IS THE MUSIC BUSINESS PLAYING IT'S LAST TUNE The Telegraph Neil McCormick I have a confession to make. I have been involved with music, as a fan, performer and critic, for most of my life. But I still don’t really understand how the business works. In fact, I don’t think anybody does. Guy Hands certainly doesn’t. I suggested as much when he (over)paid £3.5 billion for EMI in 2007, then set about the great but ailing firm with all the subtlety of Gerald Ratner in a jewellery shop. Citi-EMI juror dismissed over links to Michael Moore anti-capitalist movieI was never convinced that complaining about lazy, loss-making artists would build confidence in your brand. Yet Hands seemed to think this was no different from any other takeover: consolidate your assets, then streamline the business through cost-cutting and restructuring. This time, the assets had other ideas. Radiohead, the Rolling Stones and Sir Paul McCartney were among the most high-profile artists to take themselves elsewhere. “Everybody… had become part of the furniture,” McCartney said. “I’d be a couch, Coldplay are an armchair. Robbie Williams – I dread to think what he was.” Well, now Williams is a member of Take That again, who are signed to a rival firm. Hands has learned that one of the things a record label has least control over is its own product: an elusive, magical mix of sound and emotion, made by volatile, creative people, for an audience that doesn’t know what it wants until it hears it. It is really no wonder that the music business is grossly inefficient. It is in its nature to be chaotic, faddish, unpredictable and overly sensitive to shifts in fashion, technology and consumers’ whims. For half a booming century, the appetite for its over-priced product was so voracious that poor business practice didn’t matter. The ratio of one success for every 10 failures was perfectly acceptable, because that one success brought in so much cash the labels barely knew what to do with it. Every tell-all book about the industry is rife with tales of corruption, venality and excess. But as long as people were getting rich, nobody complained. The switch to digital has changed everything, because it is changing the way people consume music, and how much – if anything – they are willing to pay for it. Having lost his lawsuit against Citigroup, who advised him on the deal, Hands is in danger of losing EMI itself. The most likely scenario is that Citigroup takes over, and sells the firm to one of EMI’s rivals. Whether they could do a better job is another matter. The debt from the takeover forced EMI to become fiscally responsible: it is now the most profitable major label. Arguably, that has come at the expense of being creative and ambitious enough to thrive in an industry in which no one knows what the future holds. The growth of digital sales has stalled. There are dark mutterings that when the CD finally dies, the business will die with it. The big question is this: how do you run a profitable firm in an era when you can hear any track ever recorded, any time, anywhere, for free? Despite the efficiencies he wrung out of EMI, Guy Hands never had the answer. His competitors are hoping that someone, somewhere, does.

It's already #4 on Itunes so I would think it is pretty much a given. Although it may trail off during the week, especially considering there is no promotion lined up until next Sunday which will only benefit sales for next week. Very odd decision to do the first live performance a week after the single is released. The truly brilliant Neil McCormick has given a good review to The Flood. I am really liking the sound of this album. :o Take That: The Flood, review Neil McCormick reviews The Flood, the first single from the reunited Take That. The Telegraph 7th November 2010 The first single to reunite Take That with Robbie Williams, The Flood is a stirring us-against-the-world pop anthem that blends the best of Williams’ rabble rousing instincts with Gary Barlow’s smooth songwriting. The reunited five piece metaphorically wave their fists in the air as the harmonise over a battle cry of “There was more of them than us / Now they’ll never dance again.” Fans be warned though, this is, by some distance, the sanest and most commercial moment on their new album, Progress, an utterly bonkers electroglam techno stomping apocalyptic sci fi epic. And that’s something I never thought I would say about Britian’s best loved boy band. source: telegraph.co.uk via TRWS

I demand you edit to include MERCY :wub: :wub:

Miming would not be on at Glasto. She would get belted with bottles. -_- Rumors are that Robbie has reconsidered and TT will infact headline Glasto :rofl:

On Lyric FM perhaps? :smoke: Hardly U2's target audience though :drink:

In other news a THIRD date in Mexico has been added despite over 200,000 tickets sold out already for the firs two. 105,000 expected to attend each gig :o Biggest of the tour then? Hopefully we get another DVD :D http://www.atu2.com/news/u2-adds-3rd-mexico-city-show.html

Of course. :cool: Jups - there WILL be a Dublin show. Strong rumors have indicated as much! :angry: It will happen. End of!!!! :smoke:

It's €250? Ridiculous. I certainly won't be getting this. Absolutely insane price from a bunch of discs that cost 2 cent each to make. The previous price of 65 euro was fine but this is not acceptable.

That article just highlights how thick tabloid journalists truly are. Saying this was taken out of context would be an understatement. $h!t-stirring of the highest order by the good ole British craploids. This is taken from the docu trailer - all of these quotes are totally out of context - especially the one where Rob says he didnt want to be Gary's backing dancer - he was clearly talking about back in the 90's. -_- Trailer: YYYmCpyNK7o

Be Here Now was released on a Thursday and sold just under 700,000 ( 696,389) copies in three days only. It's total for 7 days was 813,000. It sold 1M in 11 days. :D