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It should definatly not just be 'Take That' if it is only for one year. Would be silly, besides they will want to make it clear that Robbie is on it to seperate it from the previosu two albums. The hype and especially outside the UK/Ireland it would be much wiser to have it Take That and Robbie Williams or visa versa. So I take it 'Shame' will be barely released when the full TT lead single is released? Both top 5 at the same time perhaps - both Rob and Gaz would love that wouldnt they? :lol:

I was always under the impression The Circus is meant to be better? I listened to BW when it came out and the only time I was more bored listening to such a MOR blandfest was when I was FORCED to listen is a Dido record when having dinner at a reletives house many years ago :lol: I don't know why I assumed The Circus was better though - considering the singles were nothing more than average compared to a song like Rule The World, which remains the only single I have liked since the return. That other live track with Mark singing - the one apparently about Robbie was decent enough as well - can't recall the name of it though. I much prefer Mark's sqeeky voice to Gary's though - afterall if I was to stick to singers with technically good voices such as Mariah Carey (well many years ago obviously) and Whitney (ditto) and Celine (think she can still sing like in the 90'?) I'd have died of bordom at this stage - can't stand all that over-singing at all. Obviouslly I am not placing Gaza among them on a technical basis (although he is a poweful enough vocalist, but should deffo avoid attempting falestto in the future) - but he could certainly rivil them in terms of being a good cure for insomnia :lol: Don't you find it interesting though that according to reports Rob and Gary will get an extra£2m more than the other three lads due to being the main songwriters? Surely things like this will just cause problems? Although obviously it does appear to be just the Robbie and Gary show - with their Brokeback Mountrain vid etc. Interesting that Howard never made a comment about how pleased he was about Rob returing unlike the others :lol:

I have never heard that myself but if something that is rarely even mentioned at all annoys you can you imagine how infuriating it is as a Robbie fan to have virtually every media report in papers and on TV (and even worse the general public both online and offline believing every word) all saying Robbie's career have been on the rocks for years and he needs TT etc to get money - TT fans, apart from the few who go on Robbie sites would never have to read or see anything other than gushing media reporting about TT success whilst at the same time totally ignoring Robbie's far far more successful solo career that unlike TT, Westlife, Boyzone etc is not confined to mainly two countries. The sheer level of utter ignorance in the reporting yesterday and today is astonishing - the Sky news report which is being run every 15 minutes shows a clip of Smart Gordon claiming that RKTVS only sold an apparently 'average' 1 million copies, where TT are selling millions around the world. I felt like screaming at the TV - such utter nonsence - The 1m is the UK alone and TT sell barely anything around the world, whereas Robbie is the third biggest selling artist of the centry so far worldwide (yes bigger than Madonna, U2 or Coldplay etc). The general public have no idea how massive Robbie is worldwide because it is never reported, yet TT are reported to sell millions worldwide despite ther last album barely charting in the top 20 in most countries? I just find it incredible to be honest. That is what annoys me more than even the thought of seeing Rob perform with them on stage - the spin that is being put on this and the public accepting it as truth (and why shouldnt they afterall, most couldnt care less about he whole thing so are hardly going to dispute what is being report as 'fact'). The TT fans don't have to endure any of this utter $h!te - all they have to do is join in swallowing the braindead media spin and slag off Robbie. TT have been the darlings of the media since the got back together to an extreme extent where their achievments are actually being over-estimated in many cases. So TT fans only have to dread the actual music and tour - us Rob fans have to constantly endure endless crap being spouted out by the media and general public and have to defend him - just like over those 3 years - it is very annoying and ruins being a fan - although tbh after this I am not a fan of the present Robbie, but the old one who loved being a solo artist and didnt see it as something that had to be gotten out of the way. Few things annoy me more than unfair, bias and factually incorrect reporting. It's amazing how not even one serious journalist bothers to do any sort of research to really find out why TT would actually benefit from this - they are all so bloody arrogant and think the world begins and ends in the UK. There is a bloody reason why Robbie has the biggest record deal of all time - and it aint cause he could sell a few million copies of each album in the UK. And as for the selling out stadiums etc - obviously TT don't need anyone's help in the UK and Ireland - but make no mistake neither would Robbie - regardless of album sales declining I am totally positive if Robbie announced five nights in Wembley Stadium it would sell out in hours just as it did in 2005 when tickets went on sale - if I recall previous to that only MJ had sold out more than 4nights in Wembley, and no-one has done it since although obviously after it sold out the gigs had to be moved to MK instead due to Wembley not being finished in time. Robbie as a live act always sold out quicker than 99% of other massive names in the UK and Ireland - even in Ireland he sold 80,000 Croker tickets in a record 18 minutes - U2 have never even managed that - TT took hours and Westlife took 6 months (and I don't even think it was sold out in the end) and of course he holds of the records of not only the biggest gigs in UK music history (Knebworth) but also in Ireland with 140,000 tickets sold in 2 hours in Phoenix Park in 2003. I have absolutely no doubt that regardless of his albums no longer selling 2m each in the UK he would still sell out as many stadiums as he would want to - the problem has always been though, like with Coldplay and U2 etc, he does a limited amount of dates in the UK/Ireland due to the huge demand internationally - TT have no choice but to play as many shows in the UK that will sell out as they woulnt lose money elsewhere - whereas other stadium acts try to limit the amount of dates. Either way this 54 dates surely indicates it will go outside the UK/Ireland - in which case it will only sell out due to Robbie - yet the media in the UK and Ireland will continue no doubt to claim it is due to TT alone - as they would like to have people beleiving that TT are in competition with the likes of U2, The Stones and Coldplay - when truth be know most of the fans of those 3 bands would have no clue who TT even are :lol: I find it amsuing though with quite alot of the reports and public hoping Robbie doesnt steal the limelight etc - you have to laugh at people trying to insult but actually complimenting his ability on stage. Even though he is not the dynamic and energetic performer he used to be, hee will steal the limelight, even if he didnt try. That is what people appear to be forgetting - there is a reason why he went on to become the single biggest selling British solo artist in the UK's history and one of the biggest stars on the planet and put on the biggest live shows ever seen - whereas the others failed as solo artists and had to get back together to see success again. Even just looking at those new studio pics and the video - it is more than obvious which one is the global superstar - stands out a bloody mile and always has, which is why he is a fool to take such an enormous step backwards. So Norma do you really think TT will call it a day after this due to it coming full circle? I am not too sure myself - I mean they are still young, and as much as Gaza's ego is fit to rival Rob's, I can't see him going back to being a solo artist - can you? I just highly doubt they would break up - and if they do I can see them doing a reunion tour again in 5 years time.

Some new details announced by the Mirror - possibly not true as it seems 'The Sun' is the official paper for Rob and TT now. :rolleyes: But some of the details are interesting - claiming that Robbie will open each gig, then the TT four piece will come on and do the material from the past two albums, with the finale being Rob joining them to presumably singing the old hits and the new material. :wacko: I supose, if true, that is the best way to please the most people and will attract even more people. According to the article it will be 50 dates (The SUn's front page claims 54) and will net Robbie £6M (I recall he earned that much from royalties alone in 2008 by just sitting on the couch :lol: ), although The Sun's front page claims £75m altogether (althoguh I assume that is what they predict the tour will gross. It then goes on to claim that Mark, Howard and Jason will earn £4.2m each, whereas Rob and Gary will an extra £2m each due to them being the 'main songwriters' (I can see alot of very angry Mark Owen fans and I don't blame them). Surely though if it's 54 dates, and Rob will be singing his solo material for the first half hour at least (I assume if the gig will be 2hrs +) it indicates it will include Europe as well? If not then I can only assume they will be doing the dates in the O2 arena residency like MJ was meant to be - as 54 stadium dates in the UK alone is beyond ridiculous. http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/0...15875-22416231/ Also I know I harp on about facts alot but this sort of reporting really pisses me off - why are 'facts' never reported? From the article. " You just couldnt make up such utter $h!te :lol: Edit: The Sun have put their article online with totally different details then The Mirror. It claims they will net £15m each and to quote "And The Sun can reveal the band will reach out to a world record THREE MILLION people on their epic 54-date stadium tour next summer" - so worldwide then? And how on earth is 3m people a world record? You really have to laugh at the sheer ignorance the British tabloids display :lol: They also claim Rob has commitments with Live Nation first - I hope that means some proper gigs to plug the Greatest Hits for his fans - even if only one or two at the O2 to be broadcast on TV. Does that mean he has signed a new contract with Live Nation though? :blink: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showb...ssive-tour.html P.S Great sig Norma :lol: Edit (again) - just heard on Irish TV that they are penciled in for 2 Dublin dates in Croke Park next summer. The very same venue of which Robbie has said many many times, even late last year that he would be doing the free gig in. Amazing stuff really, although I am sure Robbie is under the illusion that most of his fans love TT as well, so all will be perfectly understood. :lol:

I am not too sure it is - prob more about attention and ego - as tbh none of them need the money, especially Rob who is worth over £100M, and even if the album sells 3m in the UK alone (which I doubt), that is still feck all split by 5 - and any tour, unless global wouldnt make a huge amount compared to if Rob did another stadium tour around the world. He made if I recall $68m personally from the tour in 2006, which grossed over $270m (was compiled by Billboard so in $) - no matter how big a TT tour with Rob is in the UK, it would not be possible for him to personally make even half that amount logically. So I think it is more to do with the hype and attenton they will all gain from the media circus (no pun intended ^_^ )

Thanks dizzleland - I am merged this with the other thread. That part does sound pretty impressive alright - although had I written it I would said they had sold over 100M records (singles and albums) - sounds better :smoke: :lol: They were totally off when they said Rob had sold 11m singles - he has sold nearly 20m - I recall them claiming 15m a long time ago so they never get things right. TT have sold a little over 20m albums, and around 13m singles. And why do they make out the 14.5m are all seperate people? 14.5m tickets sold. I find it amusing though that the vast majority of those album sales and tickets sold are from Robbie the solo artist yet it is being mashed to make it impressive :lol: Edit - Norma I never said anything about singing - I am talking about performing. Whatever floats your boat though - I can think of few blander things in this world than Gaza's voice, well apart from his stage presence :P Either way, me, you and most of us here will have to use this opportunity to just slag them off through this year - could be very amusing and possibly even make it enjoyable :lol: The Brokeback Mountain vid alone should make for some excellent material. :lol: No merging of forums though Mikey : :nono: :P

:rofl: :P Perhaps it is a hidden track? :P Seriously though - the lack of 'Better Man' is truly ridiculous when it was a #1 hit around the world, yet Make Me Pure is here despite it not being a single? And the floptastic Morning Sun? Speaking of which why is the RKTVS singles not in order like all the other tracks? :blink: Oh and the wonderful 'My Culture' should also feature as it was a top 10 hit. I am glad 'Hollywood' features though - great track - have always loved the lyrics. I wonder if Everything Changes is a re-recording? I hope so tbh, although I am just glad the awful 'Could It Be Magic' is not there. It's not really 1990-2010 though, the oldest track, EC, is from 94 isnt it? -_-

Happy belated 21st. Hope you had a great one :D

Well I can guarantee you that the last thing I will be doing is even considering getting tickets. I can think of few things worse than seeing someone I have admired greatly as a live act due to his amazing ability to put on astonishingly brilliant concerts without having to be reduced to doing what 99% of pop acts do, which is have dozens of dancers, special effects, and endless other things to distract away from the actual performers. I despise such gigs which is why Robbie was pretty much the only 'pop' act for whom I would buy tickets in a second. If I go to see a band I go to see accomplished musicians at the peak of their talents, each an expert in their role. I don't go to see that a band who prance about doing outdated dance moves and prepared routines as if they were teens and have even elephants etc on stage. Obviously you, along with many others love that sort of thing but I hate it. It's tacky, extremly cheesy and desperate in my view, especially at that age. Not just TT but most artists who do such OTT gigs with endless costume changes. So the thought of seeing Robbie participate in all that utter cack is beyond cringworthy. He built up the reputation as a brilliant live act accross the globe becuase he was more like a front man of a great band (who rarely played an instument but did not need to due to the sheer level of excellence at performing with just a mic in his hand) and posessed all of those great qualities. His talent, his showmanship and charisma alone was enough to get 100,000+ in the palm of his hand. None of that other crap that all other pop acts are reduced to using are needed. It's all about him and him alone, which obviously would be alot more stressful however when he was at his best like he was when I saw him at Slane in 1999 it was as good as, and in many cases better than a large majority of the best love bands in the world. Just him and the band, storming through the songs with huges amounts of energy and absolutely nothing 'pop' (in the live music sence) or cheesy about it. Raw, agressive and wonderful to see. He has lost alot of those qualities (or rather is too lazy to put alot of energy in these days :lol: ) to perhaps it is best to go back with TT where he will at least appear at least nearly as enthusiastic as he once was about performing. But I most certainly won't be seeing them live. TT, and that type of show, whether done by Britney, Madonna, Boyzone or Jedward - is the last show I would pay to see, and having to endure Robbie dancing around (he should never dance :lol: ), and I am sure singing backing vocals on at least some of the songs would be beyond awful. I'd actually have to BE PAID a vast amount of money to have to endure such a concert. Other fans won't feel as strongly and will go anywhere Robbie is performing but as a fan of the solo artist it is the last thing I would want to do. Pretty much everyone I have taked to this about offline, many of whom have seen Robbie live and were amazed at how great he was, find it simply bizzaire that he would want to go back with TT and pressume he needs the money. He has given the overall sence that he is desperate and has lost alot of respect and for that reason he is a fool in my view. But I am glad for all the fans of both acts - I am sure this whole thing is very exciting for them. I am just glad I have such good taste in music and have endless 'proper' bands and musicians to see live, namely Roger Waters 'Wall Live', while they have to see that cheesfest of egoes (arrogant enough? I was tryng to give Rob and Gary some competeition :P :lol: ) Edit - bloody computer is doing my head in - when I am typing it skips back a few sentences and continues what I was writing. :angry: Yeah Norma - I wouldnt be suprised if 'Shame' did indeed feature on both albums, or at least as a bonus track on the RW/TT album (speaking of which will it just be called 'Take That' or 'with Robbie Williams'? ). If Shame is out in Oct, I wouldnt be suprised if Rob and Gary performed it on the XF, and then the whole band will perform the lead single from the album on one of the other live shows. The hype will be sickening. :smoke:

I agree that US TV show truly have taken television to a totally new level in the last 10-15 years with the sheer quality of the scripts. Show like the West Wing and The Wire in terms of intelligent writing, acting, originality and breaking new ground are in a totally different league to anything elese. I always have huge sympathy for people I know who constantly complain about how crap TV is yet just watch the utter drival that are British soaps (granted I do still watch EE from time to time if its good but to even compare soaps to seriously brilliant US dramas and thrillers is so laughable it's not even funny :lol: ) - talk about missing out on all the groundbreaking shows there has been - Band Of Brothers for example was simply remarkable television and breathtaking stuff. So many Hollywood stars, many of whom have won Oscars are now the stars of big US TVat shows due to the enormous rise in quality of the past decade. There are many of the American show that have overtaken films - for example compare the brilliant legel drama 'Damages' staring Glenn Close with the multiple Oscar nominated George Clooney film 'Michael Clayton' - Damages easily surpases it on so many levels and is completely gripping. And although alot of people may of gotten sick of them both Lost and 24 at their best are easily up there with some of the finest films ever made when it comes to being glued to the screen and being addictive. Many shows in the past have been entertaining but the real difference in US shows in the past decade above many things is the level of intelligent scripts and challenging the viewers. The Wire is probably the perfect example of that. Anyway of all time this would have to be my top 10 -didnt include Band Of Brothers as it is a Mini Series. 1. 24 2. Father Ted 3. Frasier 4. The West Wing 5. Lost 6. The Wire 7. Damages 8. The Soparnos 9. House 10. Fawltey Towers Honorable mentions to Dexter, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Six Feet Under, Prison Break (season 1 and 2 only) and 'In Treatment' which I have only just started watching and it is truly excellent.

Eugh just watchign this on Sky and Gordon Smart from the Sun was on and said that this is far more in Robbie's interest to rejoin as his last album only sold around 1 million copeis (appartnetly very average sales according to him)whereas TT are sellin millions all around the world. This is exactly the sort of utter nonsence that infuriates me - these thick of pig $h!t UK so called journalists spouting ill-informed $h!t out to the public, who unless they have a good knowledge of charts and sales will have little reason but to presume it is the truth. I have no issues whatsoever with people saying TT sell more albums than Robbie in the UK these days as it is factual informaton - however when ignoratant fools such as Smart Gordon on one hand mention TT selling millions around the world and use Robbie UK sales alone as an indicator of global success I feel like screaming. TT are utterly irrelivent on the global scale whereas Robbie is the 3rd biggest selling music act of the centry so far GLOBALLY with over 45M sold since 2000 alone, and his Close Encounter tour is one of the most profitable in the entire history of touring with 3.6m sold. Why is it that none of this is ever reported or even mentioned at all, yet the public are informed that TT are huge worldwide? You just couldnt make up the level of bias bull$h!t when it comes to this, and it is exactly because of the media that the overall public pereception is that Robbie is crawling back to TT because his last album 'only' sold a million in the UK. :rolleyes: As a fan of Robbie's and someone who has a large interest in charts and sale globally it pisses me off greatly, howver do I have any sympathy for Robbie for being seen as desperate by the British public? Definatly not. It was his decision afterall and he has totally ignored the very fans who have made him the star he is by promising a solo tour to his millions of fans accross the world (of which he has far more than in the UK) before 2012, a free gig in Dublin etc - yet that is highly unlikely at this stage. I am sure he will do promo for the GH is a half arsed way and just talk about the reunion with TT non stop like he did with RKTVS, again totally disrespecting the fans who waited 3 years for his return only to find out he has more interest in doing a massive tour with TT, where of course the stage fright and stess will miraculously dissapear.

So after five years of speculation it has finally be confirmed? Never did I think today would finally arrive, I really did think they would drag it out another few years :lol: Let's just hope that after the album and tour are complete they go their seperate ways again and for good this time. I have to say i am suprised they didnt do a big press conference to announce it considering the egos involved in this :lol:

Both certainly do appear to be going out of their way to become as laughable and pathetic as possible don't they? :lol: Oh well all the fans of both will lap it up I am sure and proclaim the song to be better than anything Lennon/Macca ever wrote and the video to have surpassed even 'Thriller' in terms of originality and creativity. They will probably even start a petition for it to be nominated for an Oscar for 'Best Picture' next year - and of course 'The Sun' will support such an effort :lol: As for the tour - you are definatly right Norma - they will be laughed out of anywhere outside the UK/Ireland -five near middle aged men jumping around smiling at each other - nah- most countries apart from ours have moved past all of that nonsence at this stage - it's highly dated, will most definatly be cringworthy and would result in Robbie's reputation as one of the top live draws in the world along with Madge, U2 and The Stones being ruined abroad :lol: So I hope it is just confinded to the UK (if he comes to Ireland with TT before doing the free SOLO gig he has promised four years ago he will not like the reaction he gets :lol: )

Hmm pretty much as I predicated although obviously the opposite order but I think Madonna did the same thing with her recent GH - I don't like it at all though - especally as disc 1 ends with a Swing song and the second disc begins with one - at least keep them on the one disc - and most of the biggest songs are at the second half of each disc. Oh and easily one of his all time classics - the brilliant - Better Man is ignored despite the fact that it was a huge hit outside Europe where it was released - yet Make Me Pure features? And the very first track with be the Barlow duet? AND the other new song, is also a Barlow co-write? Talk about putting someone off from the get-go :lol: No, I certainly won't be playing it via the CD - I might not even buy it as I am hoping the DVD is released seperatly like Oasis did as well as a special edition. Oh well - the cover is pretty good - well better than the original one - I just hope the DVD features all the vids.

Yep, that I have no problem beleiving as I seem to recall you dismissing the amazingly talented lyricist that is Morrissey once on another section of the forum and upsetting Russt in the process. :P In terms of Rob's ability as the lyricist, I would not go as far as to say he is the best lyricist right now overall - as most of the most talented and prolific lyricists today are still the oldies, those who are very poetic such as Dylan, Springsteen and Cohen etc. Morrissey is an extremly gifted lyricist - probably the most witty there ever was, although on a universal basis due to his immence talent at writing powerful lyrics I think Dylan is the king. Robbie will never be seen as to be in the same league as those for a variety of reasons, he is on a genral basis nowhere near as deep with his lyrics (he doesnt tackle political issues etc but sticks to being autobiographical) and often opts for the most throw-away lyrics and witty remakrs - but the main being he is a pop star and the vast majority of pop stars do not write their own lyricsts - they may get a writing credit on a song for adding a couple of words but with Robbie there is no question that he writes most and generally all of his own lyricsts and has people such as Guy Chambers and Steven Duffy there to help with the music. At the end of the day as it has been fully acknowledged by Guy, Rob writes the lyrics and alot of the melody and he writes the music (although obviously Rob wrote several songs by himself in that period as well). With Steven Rob took a more active role in the actual music and despite in his own words "not able to play anything" he wrote the base line for 'Tripping' - Duffy even said the the vast majority of that song was written by Robbie - in fact he said that about IC as a whole if I recall - he said he was there to guide more so than anything else, and as Rob also co-produced it - that makes it even better than it is still his biggest studio seller globally to date :D Anyway Robbie is at his best lyrically when talking about himself, and sadly with RKTVS there was a distict lack of that - the lyrics were good but in a different way and I felt he was tacking himself just a tad too seriously at times which effects the lyrics. But when he is at his best, especially when aggresive, I would say he is certainly one of the best lyricist of his generation, definatly with regard to pop stars. There are countless examples of his great lyricsts, some of his best was when he was younger after coming out of TT - but I think a great recent examples is surely 'The 80's and 90's off Rudebox - specifically 'The 80's, the lyrics of which I even recall BJ's own Thisispop (someone who is certainly not bias for Rob like myself as a fan or against like you or any other people who are not fans) said were as good as those of Ray Davies or Morrissey. Rob has a brilliant gift at going from writing witty and funny lyrics to dark and agressive ones - often in the one song - and it's the autobiographical nature that makes them so great. And that is the main reason why RKTVS's lyrics were not typical Robbie, because he wasnt really talking about himself - perhaps because he is happy personally I suppose but I missed those great lyrics that were so dominent on previous albums. :( As for the Gary - I think they both have their strenghts and weaknesses as songwriters - Gary is a much better musician and Rob is a much better lyricist - I don't know how anyone could seriously deny either point - so in that sence it has potential. Both share a talent with melodies etc but ultimatly both have very different styles and like different types of music. Rob loves electro/dance/hip-hop - I can't see Gary wanting any part in that. Rob also likes ballads, and we know for sure Gary certainly does so the most likely result will surely be a big old ballad with a soaring chorus that will have all the Radio 2 listeners who buy one or two albums a year at the supermarket jumping for joy? I'd be very suprised otherwise tbh which is why I am dreading it. A duet of a ballad between the two of them will be highly embaressing so we can only live in hope that Rob's more eclectic tastes rub off on Gaz because tbh I'd love nothing more than seeing him rapping, purely to see the reaction of total horror on the TT fans who will only be the used to the MOR material they have been enjoying so much. :lol: In that sence I'd much rather he was working with Mark Owen as his solo output was vastly more interesting than Gary's - but obviously he has other matters to deal with. :P Oh and Ziggy I was being sarcastic when I suggested they were the next Lennon/McCartney. :o I'd be very worried about anyone who would make such a suggestion seriously :lol: With regard to the albums success - considering Oasis's new album of singles (a pretty much identical album to Rob's upcomgon one minus the new songs) is on it's way to #1 despite them only having released a 'Best Of' in 2006, I think it means Rob's will do well. I doubt it will sell over a million or anything but it has a good shot at #1 depending on the competition and the number of new tracks on it. It's annoying that is will virtually kill the catalog sales from the Greatest Hits though. <_<

Well the unconscious one is slightly with the new GH album being titled 'In and Out Of Consciousness' :P - Maybe something like 'Waffling out of consiousness' :lol: Yeah Macca is amazing - it was a once in a lifetime gig and I am so delighted I got to see him :D

I know - perfect bloody opportunity for a super deluxe boxset with every single along with the B-side each had - missed again by the useless EMI - at least this will be the last album we have to say that though. I hope he goes to Universal next. I would've loved a B-sides album as Rob is one of the very few acts who's B-sides are often better than the actual A-side, especially in the early days. This would've been PERFECT :wub: A little too long for one CD but these are my faves in no particular order. 1. Average B-Side 2. Get the Joke 3. Love Cheat 4. Come take me over 5. Rolling Stone 6. Toxic 7. United 8. Ugly Love 9. One Fine Day 10. Berliner Star 11. Coffee, Tea & Sympathy 12. Get a little high 13. Big Beef 14. Chemical Devotion 15. Bag full of silly 16. You're The Why 17. Don't Say No 18. Our Love 19. She Makes Me High 20. Kill Me Or Cure Me 21. Deceiving Is Believing 22. Dance With The Devil The wider public hearing these amazing tracks would excite me alot more than the Gary duet. In fact after seeing the truly mind blowing and astonishing performance by Paul McCartney last night in Dublin, I feel sorry for anyone under the illusion the duet will be anything other than bland - but then again maybe that is just me - ANYTHING would be bland and boring after witnessing such a phenomenal concert, especially something involving listening to Gary's voice :lol: it does make me laugh though at the amount of people around who think this song will be the greatest thing since sliced bread and bigger than even Angels and Back For Good. :rofl:

HAPPY BIRTHFAY NICOLAS :birthday: :birthday: :party: :party: :wub: :wub: Hope you had a great day.

Evening all :cheer: Am still on a high after the frankly MIND BLOWING experience that was Paul McCartney live in Dublin last night. :yahoo: :w00t: It was astonishingly brilliant in so many ways 3 hours, 35 songs and more energy than most people in their 20s would have. Hit after hit along with the most amazing atmosphere I have ever seen - it was just amazing and a night I will never forget. :wub: And he is headling the Isle Of Wight tonight with highlights starting on ITV2 in 20 minutes time ^_^ And yea Biggy, Germany played very well and proved they are deffo one of the faves to win now. Poor Oz though - I was hoping they would win but sadly they played pretty poorly throughout. :(

Well that certainly makes things more interesting - we all know how much Rob loves electronic music and how many electro songs he has done in the past, but I didnt expect Gary to go outside his confort zone but then I supose this is for Rob's album and not a TT one. It's certainly alot more encouraging to learn that it is likely not to be some big bland old ballad. I'm hoping it's something similar to 'Break America', as the thought of Gary singing on such a song would make for great entertainment. The last thing I want is some super serious MOR track. Interesting that it is not being released by EMI though considering it will be on an EMI album? Very odd actually :lol:

There will be two, maybe 3 Robbie sung TT songs on the 39 track album, so hardly the 'basis' :lol: This GH album has to be released to complete his £80M contract with EMI, and as there were not enough singles released since the last one (only 9), and to coincide with his BRIT celebrating his career, and it being the 20th Anniversary (TT are rumoured to be releasing a similar compilation, due to them having even less singles since their last GH), it was the obvious choice to do a career retrospect, similar to TwentyFive by George Michael, therefor he included two or three Wham tracks in order to cover all grounds. This obviously has to include some hs the TT tracks he sang lead on to account for the 5 years he was in TT - 99% of the album will be his own material, but obviously in order for the 20th in the business tag to make sence - Everything Changes and/or Could It Be Magic need to be on there. What I don't think he gets though (or obv cares about) is that he, unlike TT is a global star (North America aside obviously), and most of his casual fans globally are not even aware of TT, and therefor, the UK aside, the addition of the Robbie sung TT tracks, and especially a Gary duet will, if anything, go against sales, and most certainly put quite alot of fans off buying it as they will already have all the singles, bar the TT/Gary related ones. And the fans of both acts in the UK will already have the older TT tracks anyway, and will prob just buy the single if they like it anyway. So although a 39 2 disc set contraining mainly solo Robbie tracks is a great idea, what many people don't seem to grasp is that on a global scale Robbie is a shark and TT are small fish, so it also has quite a few disadvantages considering his huge international audience. A new Robbie single will obviously be a big hit accross the globe, but tbh a duet with Gary, someone many international audience will not even know, has much less of a chance at being a hit than with Rob on his own or with someone actually known worldwide. So in reality it will be a hit in the UK/Ireland, but will probably fair worse elsewhere as a result. Obviously the majority of his own and TT's fanbase do not want him doing anything with Gary or TT, but I don't really care anywhere near as much as I did a few years ago. They can both do what they want together to please themselves and a few fans of both who want it to happen, but at the end of the day they are both, especially Robbie, are alienating large chunks of their fans, but tbh I highly doubt either give a $h!t so why should we at the end of the day? They are both welcome to eachother along with their egos :lol: I am delighted about the DVD though, and the rumoured book by Chris Heath. :D And on another note, the title is classic Rob although some of the stats are way off as per usual with Rob's management - he has had 8 #1 albums, not 7, and has sold at least 5m more than 11m singles - he has sold 11m between the UK/Germany/Oz alone - typical EMI or whoever made the statement. I loved the 10.2m concert ticket sales though - that is beyond remarkable to say the least. Edit: Just re-read the statement - and it says 'Shame' will be the first single released, so that pretty much confirms there will be at least one more new track. One thing I will say though is that if the amazing 'Better Man' is not included I will be very unhappy as it is one of his all time classics and was a #1 hit in several South American countries and also Australia and New Zealand, so it never being a European single should not matter. It is a Robbie classic and was a big hit.

I agree, with the other lads it would've at least had potential to be somewhat interesting, but juding by the title - I fear a big ballad with them both basically saying sorry to eachother etc via the lyrics and be all loved up by the end :lol: Imagine it live Norma - especially on the XF, the two of them united with their arms around eachother :lol: I doubt it will be the mix of Angels and Back For Good as people are hoping for, but then maybe both of us need to lighten up? Afterall surely we are looking at the new Lennon/McCartney? :P http://i45.tinypic.com/9vidm1.jpg

Let's hope the single flops Norma Although tbh, I can see it being a massive success, #1 for ages etc - but I do find it odd that the other lads are not involved - I mean a duet with just Rob and Gary sounds a bit cringworthy tbh, especially when performed live (I am sure we will see a hugely hyped X Factor performance :zzz: ). I am interested to hear it be I fear it will be some big old ballad that will put me to sleep - I hope the album is in chronological order and at the very end. I'm annoyed he isnt putting any other new tracks on there though. -_-

No suprise here, we knew the GH was on the way and there would possibly be a collaboration with Gary on it. I'm going to ignore dreading the duet between them and focus on the positive of a 39 2 Disc collection WITH A DVD (of hopefully all the vids) - and I loved that video and the stats - 10.2 MILLION tour tickets sold is beyond amazing and more than i thought :o I like the cover too, although the font NEEDS to be changed it is far too plain and cheap looking. Anyway, why on earth has the track-listing not been announced? Oh well, I'll just take a shot at guessing - there is no mention of any other new tracks other than 'Shame', so based on the 39 tracks and the fact it needs to include some TT material (please don't include I Found Heaven, although that would mean it will begin and end with a Gary Barlow duet :lol: :puke: ). 1. Could It Be Magic 2. Everything Changes 3. Freedom 4. Old Before I Die 5. Lazy Days 6. South Of The Border 7. Angels 8. Let Me Entertain You 9. Millenium 10. No Regrets 11. Strong 12. She's The One 13. It's Only Us 14. Rock DJ 15. Kids 16. Supreme 17. Let Love Be Your Energy 18. Eternity 19. Road To Mandalay 20. Better Man Disc 2 1. Something Stupid 2. I Will Talk Hollywood Will Listen 3. Mr Bojangles 4. Feel 5. Come Undone 6. Something Beautiful 7. Sexed Up 8. Radio 9. Misunderstood 10. Tripping 11. Advertising Space 12. Sin Sin Sin 13. Rudebox 14. Lovelight 15. She's Madonna 16. Bodies 17. You Know Me 18. Morning Sun 19. Shame

http://www.emimusic.de/data_img/content_large_image100607131550.jpg In And Out Of Consciousness: Robbie's Greatest Hits 1990-2010 Is Coming! 7 Jun 2010 Robbie has teamed up with Gary Barlow on his next single, Shame, which is not only co-written but also performed with his former bandmate. The duet between the two superstars is set for release on 4th October later this year and working on this track is the first time the two have written and recorded together since Robbie left Take That back in 1995, that's 15 years ago! Shame is the first single to be released from In And Out Of Consciousness: The Greatest Hits 1990-2010, Robbie's 39-track album of greatest hits from the last 20 years. Spread over two CDs, this is the definitive collection of Robbie hits celebrating his impressive career to date; 57 millions album sold, 11 millions singles sold, seven UK No.1 albums (making him the biggest selling solo artist in the UK), a Guinness World Record for fastest ever ticket sales… it's no wonder that he picked up the Outstanding Contribution To Music award at the esteemed BRIT Awards in London earlier this year! Speaking about this forthcoming album and working with Gary Barlow again, Robbie said: “It’s incredible to listen to the album and realise that it’s already been 20 years of making music and playing gigs. And the great thing about the album is that it’s not only a celebration of my past but also a bridge to the future. The fact that part of the future includes a name from my past makes it all the more poignant for me”. To be released on CD and DVD, In And Out Of Consciousness will be out on 11th October 2010. Advert for album PjuFdJ-osJY http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx187/nuriapc/2010/content_large_image100607131722.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/v4w8dk.gif Robbie Williams Reunites With Take That (Almost) There has been plenty of speculation about U.K. pop artist Robbie Williams reuniting with Take That in the last few years. It has not happened yet, but Williams has dueted with main songwriter and former bandmate Gary Barlow on a new single. It is their first collaboration since Williams left Take That 15 years ago. Williams' single "Shame" (Virgin), a co-write and duet with Barlow, is released Oct. 4 and will feature on the 39-track greatest hits set, "In And Out Of Consciousness - The Greatest Hits 1990 - 2010," a week later. It marks 20 years in the business for Williams, who left Take That in 1995 after apparently falling out with group members. He was later more critical of Take That's management and, although there was some media sniping over the years, Williams and the rest of Take That now appear to be on good terms. "It's incredible to listen to the album and realize that it's already been 20 years of making music and playing gigs," said Williams in a statement. "And the great thing about the album is that it's not only a celebration of my past but also a bridge to the future. The fact that part of the future includes a name from my past makes it all the more poignant for me." Take That split in 1996 and then reformed with the 1995-96 four-piece line-up 10 years later, with huge U.K. sales for their Polydor/Universal albums "Beautiful World" (2006) and "The Circus" (2008). With both acts' careers pretty much at parity - Williams has sold 1 million copies of current album "Reality Killed the Video Star" according to a statement - some sort of reunion seems likely at some stage. Billboardbiz.com