Posts posted by *Ben*
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I have to say I don't know. I don't visit them myself. I can ask her if you really need to know but I do know how 'popular' they are. Would it make a difference where they originate from - the fact remains they are not legitimate sales which would certainly give him a better chart rating/sales 'position' - not to mention loss of revenue. Everyone wants to be paid for their work - why should singers/musicians be any different. It isn't just Will who loses out on these it's all the people involved in the making of an album.
As you can probably tell I do not condone illegal downloading :P
No, no it's not neccessary to ask it. But you might be right, the bigger part comes surely from the UK, because he's not very well known outside the UK, but for example I know him very well, although I'm from Hungary :P
And yes, they lose revenue, but I said "it's easy to blame the illegal downloading" because it's like a witchhunting. Music labels should think about other ideas, solutions and not hunting anonymous people, that uploaded songs, let leak albums etc. The music industry has reacted waaaay to late for the internet and the possobilities it can give. I think they should have use the internet earlier and they could have avoided such a big boom in illegal downloading. But this is only my opinion.
And I can tell you I'm someone who downloads illegally because I think the value and the content of physical albums and singles are not in balance at all. (Just an example: I can by DVDs far cheaper in Hugnary then CDs, with more content!)
But this could be a different discussion in a different thread I guess :D
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Someone on Devoted found Will's new album had been downloaded 14,500 times on just one torrent alone and Leon 9,000 times with 7 torrents , so I reckon illegal downloads do figure somewhat.
Yes I haven't said the illegal downloads don't exist. it's a factor of course. But not the only one!
BTW the other question: were these 14,500 downloads all from the UK?
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Wow, this is really stupid but I only just found this bit of the forum. Great stuff, thanks guys. I wonder why Amy has been so big in Europe and not so much in her native UK. Also nice to see re-entry for Yves Larock on the singles - should have been huge last year.
You're welcome TomKay. It's a weekly thread that I post, so watch out for that ;)
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German Albums Top 100
2008/44 - Period of examination: 10th - 16th October 2008
Tw Lw Wks Artist Title
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01 Bushido - Heavy Metal Payback 1
02 01 03 Rosenstolz - Die Suche geht weiter
03 02 04 Söhne Mannheims/ Xavier Naidoo - Wettsingen in Schwetzingen
04 03 05 Metallica - Death Magnetic
05 04 34 Amy Macdonald - This Is The Life
06 06 26 Paul Potts - One Chance
07 05 03 Peter Fox - Stadtaffe
08 07 92 Mario Barth - Männer sind primitiv, aber glücklich!
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01 Tomte - Heureka
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01 Keane - Perfect Symmetry
11 11 29 Udo Lindenberg - Stark wie zwei
12 14 18 Die zisterziensischen Mönche v. Stift Heiligenkreuz - Chant - Music For Paradise
13 16 67 Ich+Ich - Vom selben Stern
14 10 07 Peter Maffay - Ewig
15 09 42 Scooter - Jumping All Over The World
16 08 02 Oasis - Dig Out Your Soul
17 18 18 Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends
18 13 39 Semino Rossi - Einmal ja - immer ja
19 12 06 Diverse - Camp Rock
20 19 15 Gabriella Cilmi - Lessons To Be Learned
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01 Rise Against - Appeal To Reason
22 21 03 Miley Cyrus - Breakout
23 26 84 Amy Winehouse - Back To Black
24 20 02 Maria Mena - Cause And Effect
25 31 32 Duffy - Rockferry
26 22 03 Monrose - I Am
27 15 03 Kastelruther Spatzen - Herz gewinnt, Herz verliert
28 28 04 Till Brönner - Rio
29 25 04 The Pussycat Dolls - Doll Domination
30 24 05 Katy Perry - One Of The Boys
31 30 49 Die Ärzte - Jazz ist anders
32 29 15 Diverse - Mamma Mia! - The Movie
33 17 02 Bob Dylan - Tell Tale Signs - The Bootleg Series Vol. 8
34 27 05 Queen & Paul Rodgers - The Cosmos Rocks
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08 Paul Panzer - Heimatabend Deluxe - Live
36 37 20 Sido - Ich & meine Maske
37 33 08 Michael Jackson - King Of Pop
38 23 02 Jonas Brothers - A Little Bit Longer
39 36 03 The Rasmus - Black Roses
40 32 15 Thomas Godoj - Plan A!
41 39 08 Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
42 40 16 Helene Fischer - Zaubermond
43 38 08 Amigos - Ein Tag im Paradies
44 48 05 Peter Heppner - Solo
45 34 05 Die Flippers - Ay, Ay Herr Kapitän
46 45 04 Cindy aus Marzahn - Schizophren
47 52 36 Diverse - Keinohrhasen
48 43 04 David Gilmour - Live In Gdansk
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01 Buena Vista Social Club - At Carnegie Hall
50 41 04 Amon Amarth - Twilight Of The Thunder God
51 42 03 Curse - Freiheit
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01 Heather Nova - The Jasmine Flower
53 50 04 Enigma - Seven Lives Many Faces
54 47 06 Mia. - Willkommen im Club
55 51 07 Rosenstolz - Das große Leben
56 35 02 Unheilig - Puppenspiel Live - Vorhang auf!
57 46 02 Foreigner - No End In Sight - The Very Best Of
58 54 08 Sarah Connor - Sexy As Hell
59 44 04 Within Temptation - Black Symphony
60 57 70 Rihanna - Good Girl Gone Bad
61 49 05 Thomas D - Kennzeichen D
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01 Frauenarzt & Manny Marc - Atzen Music Vol. 1
63 55 03 Die Prinzen - Die neuen Männer
64 60 07 Diverse - Rhythms Del Mundo - Cubano Alemán
65 53 14 Carla Bruni - Comme Si De Rien N'Etait
66 74 28 Michael Wendler - Unbesiegt
67 81 22 3 Doors Down - 3 Doors Down
68 58 152 Mario Barth - Männer sind Schweine, Frauen aber auch
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01 Dimmu Bogir - The Invaluable Darkness - Live
70 62 08 Oomph! - Monster
71 67 38 Leona Lewis - Spirit
72 73 30 Genesis - Live Over Europe - When In Rome 2007
73 61 04 Nevio - Due
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04 AC/DC - No Bull
75 71 04 Kings Of Leon - Only By The Night
76 68 05 Ne-Yo - Year Of The Gentleman
77 64 34 Schiller - Sehnsucht
78 65 17 Jason Mraz - We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things
79 56 04 Rosenstolz - Traum vom Fliegen
80 79 74 Linkin Park - Minutes To Midnight
81 59 03 Travis - Ode To J. Smith
82 86 96 Die Ärzte - Bäst Of
83
12 Marquess - Ya!
84
01 Ayo - Gravity At Last
85 72 112 Abba - Gold
86 75 25 Madonna - Hard Candy
87 63 06 The Script - The Script
88 78 06 Motörhead - Motörizer
89 66 04 Anne-Sophie Mutter - Bach / Gubaidulina: In Tempus Praesens
90 82 24 Kid Rock - Rock N Roll Jesus
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19 Schnuffel - Ich Hab' Dich Lieb
92 77 05 Helmut Lotti - Time To Swing
93 90 20 Clueso - So sehr dabei
94 89 40 Amy Winehouse - Frank
95 76 08 The Verve - Forth
96 99 03 Dream Theater - Chaos In Motion 2007-2008
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43 The Bosshoss - Stallion Gattalion - Live
98 91 07 Volbeat - Guitar Gangsters & Cadillac Blood
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01 Mick Fleetwood Blues Band - Blue Again!
100 69 03 Trivium - Shogun
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There are so few 2007 or 2008 albums in that list :o That says a lot about the decline of album sales in this country. Is it all the illegal downloading?
It's so easy to blame the illegal downloads, but there are a lot of different factors too.
Like nowadays the price and the value (content) of the albums are not in balance anymore imo, lack of promotion, lack of radio and music channels support etc.
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11-01. Leon Jackson - Don't Call This Love
12-03. Ne*Yo - Miss Independent
13-00. Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight
14-00. Sugababes - Girls
15-00. Rihanna - Disturbia
16-00. Snow Patrol - Take Back The City
17-03. Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl
18-01. Jack White & Alicia Keys - Another Way To Die
19-03. Kaiser Chiefs - Never Miss A Beat
20-01. Pussycat Dolls - When I Grow Up
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11-01. Leon Jackson - Don't Call This Love
12-02. Ne*Yo - Miss Independent
13-00. Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight
14-00. Sugababes - Girls
15-00. Rihanna - Disturbia
16-00. Snow Patrol - Take Back The City
17-02. Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl
18-00. Jack White & Alicia Keys - Another Way To Die
19-03. Kaiser Chiefs - Never Miss A Beat
20-00. Pussycat Dolls - When I Grow Up
iTunes Chart // October II
in UK Charts
Sunday 9th November :P