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Any specific views in mind?

Only multi-lateral disarmament can work though - while rogue states like North Korea have them, unilateral disarmament is not safe!

OK then, my answer is yes, with the proviso that their views should be judged in the context of when their opinions were formed, rather than the present day.

But surely TBP votes are far more like to be mostly Tory, than UKIP ones were? Even the new Speakers constituency? Surely those stats referred to UKIP, and if so, can't necessarily be projected onto TBP. :unsure:

You want me to say yes, don't you?

I disagree with removing 'hateful and bad faith voices', not because I agree with their often abhorrent opinions, but because it's better that they reveal themselves rather be suppressed, which increases their feelings of persecution, and leading them to believe that violent means is the only way to make themselves heard. Also, I share the view, often misattributed to Voltaire, that 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'

If you don't trust the electorate, or the politicians, then who *would* you trust to run the country? :unsure: BTW, what 'extreme views' do you claim I hold? :unsure: To me, 'extreme' means that only 1-2% of people subscribe to those views, e.g. groups like BNP, Britain First, etc. It therefore surely can't be on Brexit, as extreme is the opposite of mainstream, so 50%+ cannot by definition be 'extreme'.

None of which could apply to MM, of course... :teresa:

That's a typical hard-leftist response - 'I don't want to hear views opposing my own, so lets censor them, and pretend they don't exist'. :nono:

I would be surprised, given the variety of bizarre degree courses out there... :lol: Err... you do realize that nothing is 'free' - it all has to be paid by taxpayers. :rolleyes: Also, since that burden would inevitably fall mostly on those who've long since finished their education, and often didn't have equivalent opportunities when they were young, it's hardly surprising they'd resent the idea of paying for something they'd get no benefit from!

Economic equality is a pipe dream - it destroys the incentive to work at both ends of the scale - the unskilled put in no effort because they know the state will make up any shortfall, and the highly skilled will have little incentive to work hard because they know the state will appropriate the fruits of their efforts. I withdraw that allegation, as long as mere hearsay allegations against Tories as being former fascists are also acknowledged as such. :mellow:

Do you trust the electorate?

Then you won't want to hear how some current Labour members were communists in their youth...

Only because the definition of bigotry has expanded an absurd amount in the last several decades. In the 70's, it was almost only used for the Nazis, and people who paraded round in white hoods and burned crosses. Nowadays you risk accusation if you so much as look away from a same-sex couple displaying affection in public, or use a 'wrong' pronoun. :wacko:

I thought about posting this myself, but I doubt anyone else but us would like the source. ;)

Dumping Corbyn will be a necessity if they lose a 2nd election under him...

I think the last time I went was the first Christopher Reeve Superman movie, in 1978. :lol: As you can probably tell, I'm not a 'crowd' person. :)

We'll see about that on Dec 12th...

So you agree with *his* prediction because it suits you better... :rolleyes: BNP, NF, Britain First etc are not going save any deposits let alone win any seats, so which Racist/fascist parties did you have in mind? :huh: Not about one person? That's rich - Labour is 100% about Corbyn! :lol:

Very droll.

Expecting a new batch of polls tomorrow...

I guess Michael wants my title as the most stubbornly opinionated poster on this forum... :heehee:

But why would they? Polling companies are not partisan, and if their polls are seen to be inaccurate they will lose business from their non-political clients.

Incorrect - I don't care enough to be concerned what Trump does or doesn't say.

How are they fake? :unsure: Are you suggesting they don't actually ask people who they intend to vote for, and just completely pull figures out of the air? :huh: