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I agree the some Tories aren't keen on the NHS, but I find it hard to believe that they'd ever dare try to abolish it - that would give Labour a cast iron landslide in the following GE!

That adds up to 110% :mellow:

There's only one way to find out whether the polls are accurate or not - wait until Dec 13th...

Depends how you define 'didn't work' - they're still comfortably ahead in the polls...

From context, I assume he's a Tory...

Can do, but the list will need to be rather longer to be useful, and the formatting dodgy... Seat Win Maj % 2nd Place Tory targets Newcastle-under-Lyme Lab 30 0.07 Con Crewe and Nantwich Lab 48 0.09 Con Canterbury Lab 187 0.33 Con Barrow and Furness Lab 209 0.44 Con Keighley Lab 239 0.46 Con Lanark and Hamilton East SNP 266 0.53 Con Ashfield Lab 441 0.88 Con Stroud Lab 687 1.08 Con Bishop Auckland Lab 502 1.16 Con Peterborough Lab 607 1.27 Con Oxford West and Abingdon LD 816 1.36 Con Westmorland and Lonsdale LD 777 1.50 Con Colne Valley Lab 915 1.51 Con Bedford Lab 789 1.63 Con Ipswich Lab 836 1.63 Con Stockton South Lab 888 1.65 Con Edinburgh South West SNP 1097 2.22 Con Warwick and Leamington Lab 1206 2.23 Con Penistone and Stocksbridge Lab 1322 2.66 Con Carshalton and Wallington LD 1369 2.70 Con Using MM's fantasy election method, Con were just about 1050 votes from an overall majority in 2017... :rolleyes: Lab targets Southampton Itchen Con 31 0.07 Lab Glasgow South West SNP 60 0.17 Lab Glasgow East SNP 75 0.21 Lab Arfon PC 92 0.33 Lab Airdrie and Shotts SNP 195 0.51 Lab Pudsey Con 331 0.61 Lab Hastings and Rye Con 346 0.63 Lab Chipping Barnet Con 353 0.64 Lab Thurrock Con 345 0.69 Lab Preseli Pembrokeshire Con 314 0.74 Lab Motherwell and Wishaw SNP 318 0.76 Lab Inverclyde SNP 384 0.98 Lab Calder Valley Con 609 1.05 Lab Norwich North Con 507 1.10 Lab Broxtowe Con 863 1.55 Lab Stoke-on-Trent South Con 663 1.59 Lab Telford Con 720 1.61 Lab Dunfermline and Fife West SNP 844 1.65 Lab Bolton West Con 936 1.83 Lab Aberconwy Con 635 1.98 Lab LD targets Fife North East SNP 2 0.00 LD Richmond Park Con 45 0.07 LD Ceredigion PC 104 0.26 LD St Ives Con 312 0.61 LD Sheffield Hallam Lab 2125 3.73 LD Cheltenham Con 2569 4.51 LD Devon North Con 4332 7.78 LD Cheadle Con 4507 8.26 LD Leeds North West Lab 4224 9.13 LD Lewes Con 5508 10.16 LD St Albans Con 6109 10.72 LD Wells Con 7582 12.46 LD Hazel Grove Con 5514 12.49 LD Cornwall North Con 7200 14.13 LD Winchester Con 9999 17.49 LD Brecon and Radnorshire Con 8038 19.45 LD Bermondsey and Old Southwark Lab 12972 22.17 LD Cambridge Lab 12661 22.64 LD Thornbury and Yate Con 12071 23.81 LD Sutton and Cheam Con 12698 24.43 LD

I just *told you* what I think they'll use.

I have no doubt about that! :P

FYI... Seats that would be lost on <5% swing : Con 67 seats Lab 53 seats SNP 29 seats LD 8 seats Seats that could be won on a 5% swing : Con 59 seats Lab 78 SNP 16 LD 9 I can do the calculation for a 10% swing too, if anyone is interested?

Wonder which way it'll go? :unsure:

But am I a Tory just because 'I behave like one', even though I've never voted for them in my life? :blink:

I can send one if you PM me.

The opposition won't be able to score points on this, as the Tories will undoubtedly point out their 'delaying tactics' as a factor in that 'wasted' spending.

Very droll. I keep telling you I'm not a Tory - but you refuse to believe me!

Surely Rees-Mogg does that without any prompting, though... :)

But there are some on this forum who will literally blame them for *everything* regardless of whose fault it actually is - curiously they are also the first to complain whenever Labour are unfairly blamed... :rolleyes:

Updated

Has *any* PM ever lost their seat in a GE?

Yes, and that's not really reflected in opinion polls. :unsure: BTW, do you think that the gap closing means the polls have been wrong, the campaign has been having an effect, or that voters minds have just become more focused? [i can already guess MM's opinions on this] :heehee: Additionally, I would like to see both raw results *and* adjusted data, to see what pollsters are really doing... <_<

And if he *did* have the numbers, he wouldn't *need* to call one! :P

He could *call* for a GE, but he wouldn't have the numbers to *force* one... :P

Perhaps we should ask Michael why he's so sure that people are telling pollsters one thing, but secretly they believe another...

Poll-tracker latest... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-int...19-poll-tracker

BTW, anyone know how many of the party-switchers are recontesting their old seats? How many will survive if they do?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1199490/G...crat-poll-polls Jo Swinson humiliated as Sophy Ridge unveils hugely 'misleading' Liberal Democrat poll LIBERAL DEMOCRAT Leader Jo Swinson was left red-faced after Sky News presenter Sophy Ridge displayed a poll from the party’s campaign literature. **************************** This doesn't surprise me at all - they're always doing this sort of thing in Cheltenham.