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Thanks! So far, nothing. I'm working on a couple of 1980's ideas for by the end of the year. The way I have been working is to add from the start in order, so that I don't assign the record to the wrong entry, or get stuff wrong. Well, I'm sure I will get something wrong (!) but a lot less than otherwise. So far, the "new" database (from which the books are made) is up to 1985 for UK Albums, but I need to add more of the Melody Maker Albums and Singles.

. Yes it is right, the compilation charts are at the end of the albums book for the 1980's only. The Hit section is at the end of the 1980's hits book. Of course. Below is the final weekly Top 100 of the 1980's volume, together with the next page which shows the start of the Top 20's. That is all that is present in the Albums volume -the weekly charts and nothing else. https://www.dropbox.com/s/po5tipt3k0k19h9/2....31.09.jpg?dl=0 In the Hits volume for the 1980's, right at the end, is this section listing the compilation albums for the Top 20 compilation chart for 1989. https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvs87ykay6f0ub3/2....31.35.jpg?dl=0 When we reach the 1990's volume, the compilation charts get their own volume. That volume contains the charts https://www.dropbox.com/s/g42tjpiylprq56p/2....31.56.jpg?dl=0 as well as the associated Hit Albums section specifically for those albums. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3oodx0vzay1icpv/2....32.03.jpg?dl=0 Hope that helps.

Hi Mick, They did print the full top 20 in this book.

Electric Boogie could stem from a very interesting error.... Long years ago (about 2009) the OCC ended up with a copy of my database as was at that time. I stripped out loads of data before letting them have it but it was still all the UK Singles and Album charts that are official. Of course if gathered from hundreds of different sources and not got anywhere near Verifying it all indeed I’m still only in 1983 in terms of doing that! They have added this to their website as it saves them re-typing everything themselves. And how do I know it’s mine? Well errors like that as well as the other errors involving the missing label and numbers. Most entries from 1983-1991 that peaked between 76 and 100 don’t have a label and number. Go check out what is shown. So a lot of the errors in 76-100 on the OCC website stem from my own data. Sorry about that.

Melody Maker Albums 1958-1969 Melody Maker published their own album chart from 1958-1988. This volume contains the first 12 years of that chart, printing the full track listing of each album is shown, with tracks in the order they appeared on the release. Full durations are shown for each album (except two for which details can not be found). This is the first time these have been listed in this format making this a unique collection. At the end of 1969 Melody maker was compiling at least a Top 40, and this was printed (with 31-40 as breakers) in Music Business Weekly, and is presented here for the first time. In addition, each and every single weekly chart is presented at the end of the book. PDF download – only £10. This book has 213 pages and needs to be seen to be understood. Click the link to view a sample. https://usercontent.one/wp/www.thechartbook...58_69Advert.pdf

Yes, the OCC website is wrong. https://www.dropbox.com/s/6lvzvyq3gvr0leh/1...20Week.jpg?dl=0 The above shows two tied at 56 as you say, and the below https://www.dropbox.com/s/3aj2z9humkyswpb/1...20Week.jpg?dl=0 Shows that Grove Baby grove had it's second week on the chart at 61 the following week. Record Mirror also showed as a tied 56, but I don't have the following weeks scan for them.

Yes, the original Guinness Hits Book lists as only one week, but it did indeed chart again at number 75 First week scan https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6knw6wtwxtswap/1...20Week.jpg?dl=0 Second Week scan https://www.dropbox.com/s/dljf0919hvstd3m/1...20Week.jpg?dl=0 These errors where understandable in early books, but I don't understand what they listed in it's place as I can't search them as easily as more modern books.

It was actually mentioned on the chart. See the scan below. It’s on very small text at the bottom right hand side of the chart. https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjs8ivt8hyc8lt6/1...20Week.jpg?dl=0 Singles previously listed between positions 41-50 are excluded if sales and position have declined for two consecutive weeks.”

I have just launched a new book! The NME Singles Charts – 1970-1979 NME compiled their own chart during the 1970’s and this volume includes every single chart hit on the Singles charts during this decade, together with analysis and the full weekly charts for the entire decade! This book has the important information you always wanted to see for each charted record:- B-Side Full Composer Credits Song Duration Every Re-entry shown with entry date, peak and weeks Full track listing, in the correct order, for each EP below it’s entry Complete Weekly Chart listings Together with the usual information such as entry date, label and catalogue number. Don’t miss adding this much sought after chart collection to your archive. PDF download – £10 301 stunning pages in full colour Check out the sample pages! https://usercontent.one/wp/www.thechartbook...970s-ADVERT.pdf

Yes, but adding to it. Top of the Pops was a Top 20 or Top 30 show. Radio 1 counted down a Top 20 on Sunday afternoon (Top 40 from1978). They rotated through shops each week that they would use and you can almost see that I the early EP charts. For example Nat King Cole EP has an odd chart run. Starting 28 May it moves 14-OUT-2-4-4 etc and their are others. Albums does the same with Songs for Swinging Sellers going 7 May - 7-7-15-5-13-3-8-OUT-18-10

The OCC website does a few odd things but which are perfectly fine in and of themselves. The OCC database has been designed around the principle of entering a single date in history and finding the chart for that date. As such all the chart dates are listed as between Date 1 and Date 2. Usually this has no problem as currently Date 1 is the date the chart is published and Date 2 is the end of the following week (at the time of writing the OCC website has charts for 21 Feb to 27 Feb 2020 on their homepage). 21 Feb is the Friday they where announced. 27 Feb is the Thursday that would previously be the Week Ending date for the chart. That’s important for how the dates for when the chart changes week. The chart dated 30 July to 2 August 1969 is actually printed on 30 July. The chart dated 3 August to 9 August 1969 is actually printed on 6 August. The chart dated 10 August to 16 August is printed on 16 August. This is the point when the chart dates sort of change to the more accepted week ending in the OCC system. The way that date them starts incorrectly on 14 Nov 1952. What the first week should be is dated 8 to 14 Nov and instead they date it 14 to 20 Nov. It’s 1969 when this is ‘fixed’ but it means two charts with shorter dates. Nothing is actually missing.

The way chart dates worked was as follows. Sales data collected Monday to Saturday (no Sunday opening at that point) with post delivered on Sundays. That meant that shops could post the diaries (hand written) back in Sunday for arrival on the Monday morning. The chart was added up on Monday and delivered to the BBC on Tuesday for a lunchtime delivery. Music Week went to print Tuesday or Wednesday and was out on the Friday with a street date of the Saturday. At this point that means that sales data finishing ‘5pm’ Saturday would be printed in Music Week with a date of the following Saturday. The new chart was an influence from Tuesday lunchtime as the Top 20 was widely known (via the BBC) meaning that the higher places could influence who bought what. Lower placing a where more prone to being ignored unless you heard the full Radio 1 countdown which was on the Sunday. That meant, yes, it could be two weeks before the chart could influence the next one - it all depends on where the record entered. This is why ‘hyping’ became such a big thing. Get your record in the lower part of the chart and people would hear about it from free media and you wouldn’t have to advertise as much. Get your record in the Top 20 and you where on Top of the Pops. Or could be. The above is different for the Official chart during the 1960’s as the Record Retailer chart was not on its own widely known. But that’s for elsewhere!

This is a case of beware what you read from a publicist! She was indeed Susan Hunt, and listed as French in the first Guiness editions because they went off the record publicity. This was later corrected and she now has three lines of biography in the 1960's Graham Betts book rather than the 5 or 6 words in the Guiness editions. Guiness - since the first edition - listed this as one week and a peak of 48. This is in error, as I have the scan for that week which does indeed show it as being at 45. The Complete Book of British charts was, until recently, the only book to show that it was actually a #45 record. I say until recently, because Graham Betts 1960's books for the Official UK Charts also now shows it as number 45. The record had 3 weeks on the Disc chart, hence why Record Hits probably gave it two weeks (splitting the difference?)

I think your confusing me with Music Chronicle. He is the one who has produced a 1980’s book. Mine is a little different to his. I do recommend you get his book as it’s excellent, but we are different people and these are different books.

Once again, another book has been added to the website, together with a re-ordering of the site to (hopefully) make navigation easier. The new book focuses on Billboard Albums between 1945 and 1959 and includes the EP chart and numerous other charts dedicated to albums in the same period. Billboard began publishing an Album chart in 1945 and this book collects all of those published within this period, as well as the Billboard EP chart, which listed, in it’s easy days, some albums as well. Full track listing of each album is shown, with tracks in the order they appeared on the release as well as their durations. This is the first time these have been listed in this format making this a unique collection. PDF download – only £10. This book has 357 pages and needs to be seen to be understood. Click the link to view a sample. https://www.thechartbook.co.uk/wp-content/u...m_V1-Sample.pdf

Hi all. I have the scans from NME at the time and this is how they handled it Scan for 29 August https://www.dropbox.com/s/gl8xrrauw87dbl8/1...%20Pop.pdf?dl=0 Scan for 5 September https://www.dropbox.com/s/ftld5ytrqjlhbwe/1...%20Pop.pdf?dl=0 The NME chart as printed on 5 Sep has decided to retain all the last week positions as printed and provide a * for the position of the Coasters. This means it’s up to the eventual cataloguer you decide what to do. As such the usual thing is to do either A) move all entries down and place Coasters at 17. Doing this gives Russ at 3- B) ties at 17. Doing this gives Russ a position of 30. I think I have made a joint 17. Can’t check right now as away from the database. Graham Betts has gone with the tied option at 17 and this whole different from the OCC website will now be considered definitive. That said you can make your own minds up based on the two scans above :)

It all depends on the definition of One Week Wonder. On 29 May 1956 the chart listed a double A-Side of Robin Hood and Davy Crocket. Robin was a RE and the A-Side, whistle Davy was New and the B-Side. So technically it's a one week wonder but was on the B-Side of the records being bought. Maybe similar to the EP rule?

Loving this thread. Definitely keep it up as really good and nice to see 7 May 1955 Joan Regan was at 19 on the chart as printed at the time. The scan does also have a joint 20 for Ray and Mario so the OCC website does list the right order for 19 and joint 20. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kcl8xy7jrjrb3os/1...%20Pop.pdf?dl=0 That’s a copy of the scan for that week

28 August 1999. I was bored. I had borrowed the script books for the Special Edition Star Wars films (I was Librarian at the school and got allowed to take them home for the holidays and I was typing them up... don't judge me. I did not have a computer. It was 1999). I turned on Radio 1 at 4pm. For no readily apparent reason. And I heard the countdown. And I started typing. I was hooked. So I remember that weeks chart and the number 1 and most of the records because that week the music was The Best Ever (I really believe that at some point we all have a chart that features our The Best Ever music when almost all of it is just right and we like that and it says something to us and the end of 1999 was that era for me.). So thats my first week.

Some of you may be interested in the latest chart book I've just published. Billboard began publishing charts in the 1930’s, but this, the Best Sellers In Stores Chart, was the first anywhere in the world to feature data gathered from actual over the counter sales. In this book we trace the history of this chart from the start to its end in 1958, several weeks after the Hot 100 had begun. This book has the important information you always wanted to see for each charted record:- B-Side Full Composer Credits Song Duration Every Re-entry shown with entry date, peak and weeks Full Weekly Charts! (A special bonus section at the back lists each and every weekly chart position used to compile the data in the book). Together with the usual information such as entry date, label and catalogue number. Don’t miss adding this much sought after chart collection to your archive! PDF download – £10 534 stunning pages in full colour Check out the sample pages! https://www.thechartbook.co.uk/special-rele...ores-1940-1958/

It's one week per year per issue, so likely to be a very long time (50 plus years). I think I understand what you mean here - you want a book listing chart runs for the USA charts similar to the Joel Whitburn books (but with chart runs). I'm not doing that I'm afraid - yet. I need to look at options for a good clean and tidy layout and then I might do that.

Only for the number one or the top 10 though :(

Now that four issues are available I’m re upping this article simply as some have forgotten the links who may be interested.

Yes. That’s me I think. It’s called the chart book weekly. Check out the website www.thchartbook.co.uk and look for the chart book weekly.

What do you mean by American version? Curious :) I have the Whitburn US books and they don’t have chart runs.