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In fact Beautiful Things equals Last Christmas by actually completing a Top 11 clean sweep, with As It Was having only done a Top 10 clean sweep. Maybe next week Beautiful Things will become the first track in history to complete a clean sweep of the Top 12?

Going by the Virgin Top 40 charts books the w/e dates for December 1967 are 6th, 13th, 20th, 27th. The OCC has w/e dates of 5th, 12th, 19th and 26th as they have started each chart week on the dates that the Virgin book has ended them on, but I believe that is a known wrinkle with the 60s charts on the OCC site. There are also new charts compiled every single week in Xmas 1967 and New Year 1968, so no reason to think they might have put certain sales days into the wrong chart week. Trying to get the chart arrangement straight in my head for each Xmas/New Year from the 50s to 1983 does make my head hurt though and I may well have misunderstood something.

Literally only Saviours Day and Goodbye, unless I've overlooked something, as the others all had weeks at the top either prior to the Christmas chart, after it, or both.

Yeah certainly the 11 post-millennium ones would have been released a week later.

The chart is a weekly chart and is therefore always inherently on a delay. A chart is deemed to be 'current' in the week after the sales week that was used to compile it. Christmas number one has long been defined as the song that is number one on the chart that is 'current' on Christmas day itself. The only year where it was any different was 1988, when a new chart was due to be announced on Xmas Day itself, which happened to fall on a Sunday, and they chose to unveil it on Boxing Day Monday instead but still referred to it as the official Christmas chart. Cliff stayed put in the top spot anyway so it didn't cause any dispute as to who was rightful Christmas number one. Generally speaking until the early 80s the Christmas chart was the last one of the year, with the following sales week's chart often never being compiled at all to give the compilers a week off, and possibly also due to seasonal postal issues trying to get the record shop's weekly log books back to the compilers in time. The other thing to consider is that it was thought to be likely that the number one wouldn't change hands again until somewhere in January anyway, so it probably wouldn't affect who the rightful Christmas number one was. If we changed the definition of Xmas number one to being the biggest seller in the sales week that happened to actually include Christmas day (and as reckoned by the same chart compilers we currently use) then we'd have to changed the following Christmas number ones: 1962 - Elvis Presley would be replaced with Cliff Richard 1968 - The Scaffold would be replaced with Marmalade 1978 - Boney M would be replaced with The Village People 1988 - Cliff Richard would be replaced with Kylie and Jason 1990 - Cliff Richard would be replaced with Iron Maiden 1998 - The Spice Girls would be replaced with Chef 2009 - Rage Against The Machine would be replaced with Joe McElderry 2011 - Military Wives/Gareth Malone would be replaced with Coldplay 2012 - Justice Collective would be replaced with James Arthur 2013 - Sam Bailey would be replaced with Pharrell Williams 2014 - Ben Haenow would be replaced with Mark Ronson ft Bruno Mars 2015 - Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Choir replaced with Justin Bieber 2018 - LadBaby replaced with Ava Max 2019 - LadBaby replaced with Ellie Goulding 2020 - LadBaby replaced with Wham! 2021 - LadBaby ft Ed Sheeran and Elton John replaced with Ed Sheeran and Elton John 2022 - LadBaby replaced with Wham!

Here's who had the first announcement of the new Christmas chart, and on what date, for the period from 1973-1986, as far as I can tell from genome's listings. Radio 1's listings pre-1973 don't seem to have any kind of descriptions to ascertain what show contained the chart announcement, and of course pre-1969 there probably would have been such an announcement at all since Pick of the Pops was unveiling a BBC-compiled chart up to that point and an earlier announcement would presumably have just spoiled POTP. I haven't been able to figure out the details for first announcement of the 1984 christmas chart, since there definitely was a new chart announced for week ending 29th December 1984, and the Tuesday it ought to have been announced on was actual Christmas Day. I'm fairly sure there was a first announcement at some point in 1984 as the Blue Peter Panto in 1998 used the audio from it to illustrate to Konnie that she had travelled back in time to her teenage self's bedroom in December 1984 (unless of course Blue Peter hired one of the DJ's to fake the audio for the panto). 1973 – Tuesday 18th – Johnnie Walker (Slade) [NB: no new chart w/e 29th, so no 25th announcement] 1974 – Tuesday 24th – Johnnie Walker (Mud) 1975 – Tuesday 23rd – Johnnie Walker (Queen) 1976 – Tuesday 21st – Paul Burnett (Johnny Mathis) 1977 – Tuesday 20th – Paul Burnett (Wings) 1978 – Tuesday 19th – Paul Burnett (Boney M) 1979 – Tuesday 18th – Paul Burnett (Pink Floyd) [NB: no new chart w/e 29th, so no 25th announcement] 1980 – Tuesday 23rd – Paul Burnett (St Winifred’s School Choir) 1981 – Tuesday 22nd – Dave Lee Travis (The Human League) 1982 – Tuesday 21st – Dave Lee Travis (Rene And Renato) 1983 – Tuesday 20th – Mike Smith (Flying Pickets) 1984 – ? - ? (Band Aid) [NB: there was a new chart w/e 29th, but no sign of an announcement in listings] 1985 – Tuesday 24th – Gary Davies (Shakin’ Stevens) 1986 – Tuesday 23rd – Gary Davies (Jackie Wilson)

Looking at the big list on page 1 there is a chart show in May 2015 with a presenting credit of 'Scott Mills and Co at the Big Weekend', so could Nihal have been part of the 'and Co'?

And as a Xmas extra here's a summary of who announced each Christmas number one since the first announcement of a new chart was moved to a Sunday in 1987. 1987 – Bruno Brookes (Pet Shop Boys) 1988 – Bruno Brookes (Cliff Richard - 2) – NB: Unusually the announcement was on Boxing Day 1989 – Bruno Brookes (Band Aid II) 1990 – Mark Goodier (Cliff Richard - 3) 1991 – Mark Goodier (Queen - 2) 1992 – Bruno Brookes (Whitney Houston) 1993 – Bruno Brookes (Mr Blobby) 1994 – Bruno Brookes (East 17) – NB: First Christmas Day announcement 1995 – Mark Goodier (Michael Jackson) 1996 – Mark Goodier (The Spice Girls) 1997 – Mark Goodier (The Spice Girls - 2) 1998 – Mark Goodier (The Spice Girls - 3) 1999 – Mark Goodier (Westlife) 2000 – Mark Goodier (Bob The Builder) 2001 – Mark Goodier (Robbie Williams and Nicole Kidman) 2002 – Sara Cox (Girls Aloud) 2003 – Wes Butters (Michael Andrews and Gary Jules) 2004 – Wes Butters (Band Aid 20) 2005 – JK and Joel (Shayne Ward) – NB: Christmas Day announcement 2006 – JK and Joel (Leona Lewis) 2007 – Fearne Cotton and Reggie Yates (Leon Jackson) 2008 – Fearne Cotton and Reggie Yates (Alexandra Burke) 2009 – Scott Mills (Rage Against The Machine) 2010 – Reggie Yates (Matt Cardle) 2011 – Reggie Yates (Military Wives with Gareth Malone) – NB: Christmas Day announcement 2012 – Reggie Yates (The Justice Collective) 2013 – Jameela Jamil and Scott Mills (Sam Bailey) 2014 – Jameela Jamil (Ben Haenow) 2015 – Greg James (Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Choir) – NB: Christmas Day announcement 2016 – Greg James (Clean Bandit) 2017 – Greg James (Ed Sheeran) 2018 – Scott Mills (LadBaby) 2019 – Scott Mills (LadBaby - 2) 2020 – Kate Thistleton (LadBaby - 3) – NB: Christmas Day announcement 2021 – Scott Mills (LadBaby ( - 4) ft Ed Sheeran ( - 2) and Elton John) 2022 – Jack Saunders (LadBaby - 5) 2023 – Jack Saunders (Wham!) 2024 – Jack Saunders (Wham! - 2) I've included numbering to indicate when it was an act or artists 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th Christmas number one. I haven't attempted a list of who made the first announcement of each Xmas chart on a Tuesday or Wednesday lunchtime pre-1987, but maybe that would an interesting list to try to work on.

So assuming the weeks up to 24th January are as planned the chart of chart show hosts now looks like this: 1. Mark Goodier 470 1988-2002 2. Bruno Brookes 358 1986-1990 & 1992-1995 3. Tom Browne 278 1972-1978 4. Scott Mills 272 1999-2022 5. Alan Freeman 258 1967-1972 6. Reggie Yates 237 2007-2012 7. Simon Bates 130 1976-1977, 1982-1985, 1987 & 1992 8. Tony Blackburn 123 1979-1982 9. Joel 122 (121 with JK, 1 solo) 2005-2007 10. JK 121 (121 with Joel) 2005-2007 11. Greg James 114 2010-2012, 2015-2018 12. Tommy Vance 103 1982-1987 & 1991-1992 13. Wes Butters 102 2003-2005 ^14. Jack Saunders 101 2022+ 15. Jameela Jamil (1 with Clara Amfo) 97 2013-2015 16. Fearne Cotton (75 with Reggie Yates, 3 solo) 78 2007-2009 17. Richard Skinner 71 1984-1986 18. Dev 28 2009-2010, 2015-2018 19. Clara Amfo (1 with Jameela Jamil, 17 solo) 18 2015 20. Mista Jam 16 2017-2018 21. Jordan North 15 2017-2020, 2023 22. Clive Warren 12 1995-1998 ^23 James Cusack 12 2022+ 24. Katie Thistleton 10 2019-2022+ (3 with Vick Hope, 2 with Cel Spellman, 5 solo) 25=. Andy Peebles 4 1979 & 1983 ^25= Sam MacGregor 4 2024 (4 with Danni Diston) ^25= Danni Diston 4 2024 (4 with Sam MacGregor) 28=. Cel Spellman 3 2019-2020 (2 with Katie Thistleton, 1 solo) 28=. Vick Hope 3 2021-2022 (3 with Kate Thistleton) 28=. Emil Franchi 3 2022 ^28=. Gregor Davidson 3 2023-2024 32=. Pete Murray 2 1968 32=. Neale James 2 1994 32=. Dave Pearce 2 1995 32=. Jo Wiley 2 2002 & 2005 32=. Nemone 2 (1 with Scott Mills, 1 solo) 2002 & 2005 32=. Yasser 2 2021 38=. (22 other DJs with one guest presenting appearance) Of note is that Jack has the opportunity in 2025 to overtake 7 past presenters and find his way into 7th place on this chart, assuming he remains the permanent host throughout the year and doesn't need too many weeks off.

Let's bring this up to date to the end of this year, and beyond into January 2025, starting with the final week of the last update, which wasn't actually Jack as originally advertised. 29th March 2024 James Cusack 5th April 2024 James Cusack 12th April 2024 Jack Saunders 19th April 2024 Jack Saunders 26th April 2024 Jack Saunders 3rd May 2024 Jack Saunders 10th May 2024 Jack Saunders 17th May 2024 Jack Saunders 24th May 2024 ? 31st May 2024 Jack Saunders 7th June 2024 Jack Saunders 14th June 2024 James Cusack 21st June 2024 Jack Saunders 28th June 2024 Sam MacGregor and Danni Diston 5th July 2024 Jack Saunders 12th July 2024 Jack Saunders 19th July 2024 Jack Saunders 26th July 2024 Jack Saunders 2nd August 2024 Jack Saunders 9th August 2024 Jack Saunders 16th August 2024 Jack Saunders 23rd August 2024 Jack Saunders 30th August 2024 Jack Saunders 6th September 2024 Jack Saunders 13th September 2024 Jack Saunders 20th September 2024 Jack Saunders 27th September 2024 Jack Saunders 4th October 2024 James Cusack 11th October 2024 Jack Saunders 18th October 2024 Jack Saunders 25th October 2024 Jack Saunders 1st November 2024 Jack Saunders 8th November 2024 Jack Saunders 15th November 2024 Jack Saunders 22nd November 2024 Jack Saunders 29th November 2024 Jack Saunders 6th December 2024 Jack Saunders 13th December 2024 Sam MacGregor and Danni Diston 20th December 2024 Jack Saunders 27th December 2024 Gregor Davidson 3rd January 2025 James Cusack 10th January 2025 Jack Saunders 17th January 2025 James Cusack 24th January 2025 Jack Saunders

Exactly that! By the end of Bryan Adams' long run at the top, or the end of Wet Wet Wet's a couple of years later, you'd have struggled to find anybody in the country who couldn't more or less sing the song word-for-word. To this day I couldn't tell you how One Dance goes, even though I must have heard it at least a few times.

The linked threads don't match the headings, apart from the last one. It's no biggy as all of the threads are represented by one of the links, just not the one that goes with the heading, so you can use trial and error on the other three headings to find the thread you want.

Sabrina Carpenter's Espresso has joined the list, with 1,018,329 streams in the UK yesterday.

Maybe not turning it into a game as such, perhaps the trophies thing was a step too far in that direction. But we can use TwitterFormerlyKnownAsX to turn our thoughts into likes and retweets, or instagram to turn our pictures into likes (or whatever the mechanism is), or youtube to turn our homeshot videos into views and/or etc etc so why not something a bit like that for our listening (though I do realise my other examples involve our own creations being rated, whereas this would be somehow rewarding our interaction with the creations of others). Most of the internet has a way of translating our experience into something measurable that we can strive for more of. Finding some sort of mechanism like that for music streaming (whether that be the 'music points' I suggested, or something else), tieing it into something akin to the release schedules of the physical era (by having a higher reward for newer music, again in whatever form that reward takes) and also making it shareable in some way via social media to encourage young music fans to want to share what they have and see what their friends have, could be the recipe to encourage people to engage more in newer music and maybe less in the older stuff (but wouldn't actually prevent them streaming older stuff if they wanted to, nor would the chart downplay those plays of older music with an arbritrary chart rule). I don't know exactly what form the reward could take to best engage teens and twenty somethings, mainly because I'm 41 myself now, but there must be something that could work and wouldn't cost much (or anything) to actually do (so I'm not envisioning them doing free cds/downloads for every so many points or anything like that).

I was pondering what changes could be made to either the chart or the music industry to make the charts more transparent and meaningful to the average music fan and I wondered if it would be possible for Spotify, Deezer, Youtube Music, Apple Music and others to sort of reward music fans for streaming the latest single, slightly reward them for stuff that is a little bit older, and not reward at all for anything older than a certain point, except where an old single gets a genuine new wind for one reason or another and is permitted to give the full reward (in effect being designated the streaming equivelant of a re-issue). I don't know what form the reward could take, but I could imagine something along the lines of 'music points' that can then be set to be shared on your socials on a daily or weekly basis to show how 'with it' your streaming was this week, perhaps with different trophies possible for reaching certain totals, or earning a certain number of points from one particular act, or earning points from a certain number of genres etc etc. I know a lot of people try to earn the various trophies within a computer game or mobile app, even where that isn't the primary focus of the game in question, so something similar in music streaming could also work. Say only one single by an act or artist can be giving out the maximum reward at any given time, and that new single can only give out the maximum reward to the consumer for either a fixed number of weeks or until that act's management decide to move it to a newer release, then you'd have a time-critical element to music consumption again, which you had when you could only buy something if it was still in the shops, but which you don't get now when everything is available indefinitely. ACR wouldn't be needed, and could be scrapped as most chart nerds probably want, if the consumer was being incentivised to seek the newest track by any given artist over older stuff, while at the same time they'd still be free to listen to old stuff if they wanted, so music fans would still have freedom to choose what they actually want to listen to, and also older stuff wouldn't be artificially penalised within the chart rules anymore.