DanChartFan

Just realised that Scott Mills has done at least one chart show, and often several, every year since 1999, so either he doesn't want the job full time, or else he must feel like he is being repeatedly overlooked every time the position becomes vacant. Edit: Just counted and even with all the gaps still to be filled he has done at least 55 chart shows without ever being the official host in his own right!

Possibly could have saved myself hours by looking at the linked BBC page first, though I didn't realise they detailed their old radio shows in the same way as TV shows on there. Also may not be totally 100% reliable, as some changes of presenter could have happened at the last minute (if say Reggie went sick on the day or something) with the programme description referencing the original plan, and I notice that the generic picture of Jamelia Jamil appears on some shows as far back as 2007!

Here's May/June 2012, and I'll probably do the rest of 2012 later tonight, unless someone else would like to take the baton and start reading chart show threads from July onwards [in which case a little tip, type 'chart show thread' in the search box on buzzjack to narrow down the amount of other threads]. 6th May 2012 - Reggie Yates 13th May 2012 - Reggie Yates 20th May 2012 - Reggie Yates 27th May 2012 - Reggie Yates 3rd June 2012 - Reggie Yates 10th June 2012 - Greg James 17th June 2012 - Scott Mills 24th June 2012 - Reggie Yates [Chart Show on from 5:30 to 7pm (though no 1 played around 6:40), and even then featuring Florence and the Machine's live set from the Hackney Big Weekend, so not much by way of chart show in the chart show this week. Possibly co-presented by Fearne Cotton, though the reference to her in the thread may possibly refer to the 'Big Weekend' bit and not to the actual 'Chart Show' content, so one that defintely needs more information].

And here's March/April 2012. 4th March 2012 - Reggie Yates 11th March 2012 - Reggie Yates 18th March 2012 - Reggie Yates 25th March 2012 - Greg James 1st April 2012 - Reggie Yates 8th April 2012 - Reggie Yates 15th April 2012 - Reggie Yates 22nd April 2012 - Reggie Yates 29th April 2012 - Reggie Yates This is taking me longer than I thought tbh, some weeks there is a undeniable reference to Reggie, or a guest presenter, in the first page of that chart show thread, but many other times I have to read every post in a dozen or more pages before finding even a cryptic passing mention.

Here's January/February 2012, the last week of which was the first week of the online video stream from 6pm. 1st January 2012 - Scott Mills 8th January 2012 - Scott Mills 15th January 2012 - Reggie Yates (although the previous week's thread said Scott Mills would be doing it) 22nd January 2012 - Scott Mills 29th January 2012 - Reggie Yates 5th February 2012 - Reggie Yates 12th February 2012 - Reggie Yates 19th February 2012 - Reggie Yates 26th February 2012 - Reggie Yates

Ok heres the last part of 2011, starting with the week of your first gap I could find the presenter for. It is however based on the slightly circumstancial evidence of the chart show threads, so in some cases I've had to judge whether the anti-Reggie post was in response to that show or just generally, and it's possible he may have had a co-presenter sometimes, so you may wish to seek further corroboration. 30th October 2011 - Reggie Yates 6th November 2011 - Reggie Yates 13th November 2011 - Scott Mills 20th November 2011 - Reggie Yates 27th November 2011 - Reggie Yates 4th December 2011 - Reggie Yates 11th December 2011 - Reggie Yates 18th December 2011 - Reggie Yates 25th December 2011 - Reggie Yates

A lot of the blanks from 2011 and 2012 will be recorded in a Chart Show Thread on here, and a guest presenter would almost certainly be noted in the thread, whilst a Reggie week will likely feature some form of criticism of something he did that show, so you should get a fair few from there. I might even start checking the threads for you tonight as I'm up all night with nowt to do anyway. For starters 30/10/11 definitely was Reggie. One thing I'd find interesting is the reasons why there was a different presenter on some weeks, i.e. main presenter either ill, doing something else that week, or possibly unexpectedly quit or fired etc. And also I'm guessing some guest presented shows were a gap fill between letting one main presenter go and getting the new one(s) under contract. I wonder if the list could also extended back to the pre-Radio 1 days when the chart show was part of the Light Programme, I think the first show was presented by someone called Benjamin Franklin or something.

That does seem a little bit odd, but did NME have a different policy for which discs to count for their charts? Is it possible that NME only counted current releases, and not those making sales from old stock? Or else is it possible that 1952 was the first time in years that Bing's recording wasn't re-issued? (I seem to recall the master of the first recording was broken by being used too many times to make copies so perhaps this prevented a 1952 reissue?). I don't know enough about how the music shops and charts worked back then to know if either could be the answer, just saying there could be an explanation. Or it could just be this 'new' chart after all.

I really think the Big Reunion single will give the X Factor one a good run for it's money, and personally I hope BR does beat XF. Not sure about ElBo (or is it SuVis?), but it'll probably either fly or bomb. Does anyone know what label is behind the Big Reunion single? I know XF, BGT and ElBo are all Syco, so I'm really hoping Mr Cowell doean't have fours fingers in the pie this year....

Thanks for that, I did wonder if it was to do with those preview screenings, but couldn't see why they'd count in a different chart weekend to the weekend they actually happened. If this was the music charts and say Lady Gaga was officially releasing a new single on iTunes etc on Sunday, but the Sunday before she made an appearance at an HMV and sold some signed promo copies on CD there would be no way the OCC would say "we'll just add those sales to the official release week", it'd just enter low a week earlier and then (probably) rocket up the charts on release week. It seems Cloudy's preview sales would be enough on their own for it to have been placed at number 3 the week before (although boxofficemojo doesn't show those sales there either), so I'm inclined to actually say that Cloudy didn't make it, other wise it seems a little unfair on Captain Phillips. Of course the problem I have now is I don't know if any of the other films listed on my webpage got there in this way too, so I guess I have a bit of a research project to undertake now. I would be interested to hear from anyone on here who has an understanding of the boxofficechart rules and their history, as I've really struggled in the past to find out anything about how they are compiled and by whom (has there been different compilers at different times, is there in fact more than one compiler even today etc?). It strikes me that there could be a market for a charts book based on these, in the same way music charts have been done in the Guiness and Virgin books. I do have one book, by Guinness, which lists the number ones to 1994, but without really explaining the compiler or compilation method, and with guesswork for the pre-1969 years, and also the early 90s number ones do not match the ones on the wikipedia pages (which from 1998 match imdb/boxofficemojo so presumably use the same source as them pre-1998 too), so I'm rather baffled by it all.

The latest UK box office chart (weekend ending 27th October 2013) seems to have two possible number ones. The BBC is reporting that Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2 made it by around £1m more than Captain Phillips, at number two, whilst boxofficemojo (who as far as I know publish the same chart the BBC use) say Captain Phillips was number one and that Cloudy had a considerably lower takings figure. Does anybody on here know about the compilation of the UK box office charts and/or it's chart rules? I keep a list of all animated charttoppers on my website http://www.spanglefish.com/webbyswonderful...p?pageid=288577 and have no idea whether to add Cloudy to my list or not.

According to the preorder page connected to the linked page above the cover price is £30, so that would actually be a slightly better deal! Also looking more closely at the linked oage I've noticed there is also a £15 CD being release with various 40s tracks on them (possibly some/all the new charttoppers?).

Any more news on the publication date of this? I believe it was meant to be early November, but amazon says it doesn't know when or if it will become available, so has it been delayed or shelved?

Firstly could you maybe add a bit to the title? Perhaps add something like '(OCC chart rules controversy)' or some such. I only say this because I nearly overlooked this thread entirely because the phrase 'instant grats' meant nothing to me until today, and I suspect this is the case for at least some other members of this forum who would otherwise find this thread interesting and wish to contribute. Secondly does anyone else get the impression that the OCC dislikes chartologists (particularly online ones like us) and deliberately introduces new complications and rules that result in hard to explain chart anomalies in a bid to discourage us from the whole subject? I mean if they could keep the numbers of chartologists to a minimum, or extinct us completely, then there is no leaking of their data and no unauthorised sharing of their charts, and of course no one to tell them when they've clearly made an error. I just feel that a decade ago you bought precisely one single or precisely one album and it (in nearly all retailers) counted in that week's chart as precisely one of whatever it was (subject only to the definition of single being governed by number of tracks and total length), but now there have been so many complications and changes of rules that have led to so many anomalies in the chart record that you need a lot of dedication to the subject nowadays to fully understand it all.

Am I the only one who's a little bit skeptical about this? It will certainly be an interesting read and I'll almost certainly buy it, but it just seems a bit odd to have come to light now, and very odd that the OCC are involved with something that predates them by between 42 and 54 years. It seems to me convenient that this chart began in the same year as the US Billboard charts, thus making the British and US chart historys now become apparent equals (UK actually just predating the US by a few months!) if this new set of charts become at least partly canonical to future chartologists, and also it's interesting that it was stopped so abruptly when NME began their charts in 1952 (within about 6 weeks based on the foreword on the site linked above) since there would have been no guarantees at that point that NME would continue their charts for any period of time (music papers had, I believe, compiled the odd chart before NME began, and then quietly dropped them again, so it was always possible in the early years that NME would do like wise). The ending in late 1952, at the date NME started their chart, does also mean we can't easily compare this chart and the NME ones to judge whether they seem to roughly concur or not. And lastly, whilst not meaning to be in any way disrespectful about the death of Colin, the guy who compiled all these charts, it also seems a little convenient that they have come to light shortly after his death, and that therefore he is no longer around to give out any real information on how they were compiled. Despite all my skepticism above though, I am really excited to see these new charts and will buy the book (cash flow permitting), and I hope all my skepticism proves unfounded.

I'm not sure how to start a poll myself but I think we should have one asking "How do you think Radio One should have handled the chart entry of 'Ding Dong'?" with answers ranging from, "not even mention it", "mention it but not play it" and "play it but don't say anything it", through "they did exactly the right thing", and on the other side "done the explanation and then played it in full" or even "treat it as a normal charting song". I would be interested to see what the results of such a poll would show.

I had to stop and think about what on earth IRO meant too, so I would suggest putting the full words so people know what the questions are.

People have a right to express themselves and their opinions in this way if they want, and although I understand people's discomfort with any 'celebration' of someone's death, I do think that anybody of the stature of Mrs Thatcher is well aware that some people would indeed celebrate their death so I don't think she'd be bothered herself, nor do I think her children will be. I don't know anything about her grandchildren or if she has great grandchildren, so I concede that if any of them are still school age it may be distressing for them. Also I've watched interviews Mrs Thatcher gave and she seemed to relish opposition, as if to her having no proper opposition would equate to not achieving anything. But above all I keep coming back to is the fact that Mrs Thatcher was very pro-capitalist and that the public marking her death by rushing to buy a luxury item, which a download you won't play again after next week surely is, would be, for her, the very best way she could hope her death to be marked, I honestly think she would love the idea and the fact she is still affecting Britain and causing political debate even though she is no longer with us. I believe the BBC should seek contact with Mrs Thatcher's surviving family and ask whether they would be comfortable with them playing it on the chart show, and if they are (or at least aren't actively against it) then they should play it.

Oops yes it was, not sure how I got that wrong, I think I must have skipped that page in my chart book by mistake. I'll edit that post now.

Ok you all know what happened last Sunday but I may as well do it for completions sake, in fact my plan originally was to finish this around 7pm last Sunday and tie it in to the announcement, but a poor internet connection last weekend whilst on hols and then some personal probs this week delayed things rather, still here we are 155.5 hours later than planned, but finally up to the present now. 2013: Easter Sunday 31st March Bastille stayed put at 5 with Pompeii, whilst Justin Timberlake dropped from 2 to 4 with Mirrors. The Saturdays ft Sean Paul fell from the topspot to number 3 with What About Us and Pink ft Nate Reuss climbed one place to 2 with Give Me A Reason. Pink and Nate were denied a number one by something that simply couldn't have been predicted just over a week ago. Because they had several reunited bands from The Big Reunion on their Saturday Night Takeaway, Ant and Dec decided to reform PJ and Duncan and perform Let's Get Ready To Rhumble as a one off. Downloads of the track took off in the next few days resulting in media attention that inspired even more downloads which were enough in the end to declare PJ and Duncan as easter number one for 2013! OmJFWHX7hDs

2012: Easter Sunday 8th April Gotye climbed from 5 to 3 with Somebody That I Used To Know, whilst Sean Paul stayed put at 2 with She Doesn't Mind. New at number 1 was Carly Rae Jepsen's Call Me Maybe. Zz9uODC1r2w

2011: Easter Sunday 24th April Chris Brown ft Benny Benassi climbed from 8 to 5 with Beautiful People, whilst Tracy Chapman rocketed from 58 to 4 with Fast Car. Jennifer Lopez ft Pitball were down one at three with On The Floor, and there was a new entry for Wretch 32 ft Example, Unorthodox. The previous week's number one stayed put, LMFAO, Lauren Bennett and Goonrock, Party Rock Anthem. KQ6zr6kCPj8

2010: Easter Sunday 4th April Tinie Tempah Pass Out drops from 2 to 5. There's a new entry at 4 for Deliriou5? with History Maker, which was a Christian rock track backed by a facebook campaign to get it number one for easter, which obviously failed. Personally I was vaguely aware of the campaign at the time and downloaded the track, but had no idea it was a Christian rock single, and so in the event I never actually played it, neither would I have downloaded it had I known, as I'm atheist, though I should add that I have a huge respect for anyone who has faith in this day and age, it's just that I don't. In any case I have listened to History Maker for the first time tonight as research for this, and it's pretty unremarkable anyway. In fact this was what made me decide to stop buying large numbers of singles, and only buy Now albums and the odd track that I really liked, as clearly I was by that point buying anything at all and needed to be more selective. Sorry the rant I've been holding in for 3 years is over and now back to the chart. New at three was Plan B with She Said, and dropping one place to 2 was Telephone by Lady Gaga. New at the topspot were Scouting For Girls with This Ain't A Love Song. fxENsVK6lG8

2009: Easter Sunday 12th April Ciara ft Justin Timberlake were new at 6 with Love Sex Magic and the Noisettes were down from 2 to 5 with Don't Upset The Rhythm (Go Baby Go). La Roux was going In For The Kill, climbing from 7 to 4, whilst AR Rahman ft The Pussycat Dolls were staying put with Jai Ho (You Are My Destiny). Last week's number 1, Lady Gaga's Pokerface, dropped to 2 to make way for a new entry at the top for Calvin Harris I'm Not Alone. 8_xm0bUBYV4

2008: Easter Sunday 23rd March Last week's 2 and 3 drop one place each, with Leona Lewis's Double A-side Better In Time/Footprints In The Sand (including individual downloads of Better In Time but excluding individual downloads of Footprints In The Sand, which charted further down at 26, a sales split that cost Leona number one the week before) was now at 3 and Duffy's Mercy was now at 2. There was a new entry at the topspot for Estelle ft Kanye West American Boy. KXIWqDU_8x8