DanChartFan

Just catching up on this thread. If they were only playing those Xmas number twos that never made number one then the list of songs available to them was: 1954 David Whitfield - Santo Natale 1956 Frankie Vaughan - Green Door 1964 Petula Clark - Downtown 1965 Cliff Richard - Wind Me Up (Let Me Go) 1966 Donovan - Sunshine Superman 1967 The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour (EP) 1968 The Foundations - Build Me Up Buttercup 1969 Kenny Rogers and New Edition - Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town 1970 McGuinness Flint - When I'm Dead And Gone 1971 T.Rex - Jeepster 1974 Bachman-Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet 1975 Greg Lake - I Believe In Father Christmas 1977 The Brighouse And Rastrick Brass Band - The Floral Dance 1979 Abba - I Have A Dream 1981 Cliff Richard - Daddy's Home 1982 Shakin' Stevens - The Shakin' Stevens EP 1983 Slade - My Oh My 1984 Wham! - Last Christmas/Everything She Wants 1987 The Pogues ft Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York 1991 Diana Ross - When You Tell Me That You Love Me 1992 Michael Jackson - Heal The World 1994 Mariah Carey - All I Want Christmas 1995 Mike Flowers' Pops - Wonderwall 2000 Westlife - What Makes A Man 2001 Gordon Haskell - How Wonderful You Are 2002 One True Voice - Sacred Trust/After You're Gone (I'll Still Be Loving You) 2003 The Darkness - Christmas Time (Don't Let The Bells End) 2004 Ronan Keating ft Yusuf - Father And Son 2008 Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah 2016 Rag N Bone Man - Human 2018 Ava Max - Sweet But Psycho Obviously one of those could remove themselves from the list in a few hours..... [Edited, as I got my ones and twos the wrong way around lol]

But seeing an unknown artist get their debut #1 on the Christmas chart IS definitely something to write home about for Mark (aka Lad Baby) and his family! If anything he was even more unknown than Ava, so should be an even better result by your arguement.

Yessss Maaaattttte! He's done it!!!

Actually Walls are using it. Half way through the chart week Lad Baby announced that if you downloaded his single and then posted a screenshot of your purchase onto his facebook page you would be entered into a competition to win a years supply of Walls Sausage Rolls. This may be the reason sales picked up in the latter part of the week. There is already a few people saying on the page that the winner ought to donate the prize direct to the Tressel Trust charity that the single is raising money for. In terms of who is more known/popular this week I have heard a lot of people talking about Lad Baby, whilst Ariana's has been around long enough now (and isn't exactly her best effort in the first place) so there didn't seem much interest in her from the people I've discussed the charts with, and I think Ava is relatively unknown still as she is still building up, and more people will actually know who she is in a week or two, I mean the only reason I know of her myself is is that I have been following the xmas chart battle. I'm gonna go now and listen to Ava Max now to find out what it sounds like, as I didn't want to stream during Xmas week, as I wanted Lad Baby to get it (and I only heard of either of them when I saw the contenders based on the first midweek, I just happened to be drawn to checking out the novelty song first, then stuck with it).

Singles (Download) Lad Baby - We Built This City Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas [To do my bit to relevel the unlevel playing this year] Singles (Youtube streaming) Lad Baby (2 views so far, possibly more to come)

Yeah it just seems boring when it's a normal song that has been at the top for 6 previous weeks (as it is likely to be this year). I think the combination of X Factor and declining physical sales in the noughties was already bringing to an end the idea of a Xmas chart battle, though in hindsight I do acknowledge that much as I loathed it and campaigned against it, the X Factor contender at least meant there was something to campaign against. Nowadays there isn't that impetus, since even Mr C knows that X Factor stands non chance, hence the earliest release ever this year. I still keep my fingers crossed that Mariah (or Wham! or Pogues) can somehow reach the Xmas summit this year. Looking at sales today Ariane's figures for number one have dropped quite a bit now, leaving a fairly low 'sales' climate for a would be contender to compete in, so it's entirely possible that something with a slight extra push behind it could take advantage and sneak to the top, whether an old Xmas classic, or something else.

With Mariah already at #6 today, despite the unfair streaming ratio imbalance, and her streams and sale sure to increase over the next two weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if she manages it, or perhaps one of the other old xmas songs (Wham or Pogues perhaps?).

I've just seen the live 1 hour show for the 60th birthday (had to get up early specially, being a nightshifter lol). First off I was quite relieved that they apparently gave over two studios to the show to fit everything , and everyone, in, as I had thought they'd try to squash all the past presenters into their usual tiny set space on the 3rd or 4th floor (whichever it is). It was great to see all the past presenters return, well nearly all of them. Over on digitalspy someone asked who was missing, but as my repeated attempts to subscribe to the forums there keep failing I'm going to answer that here, in the hope that somebody uses both forums and can relay my answer: Firstly Christopher Trace, Michael Sundin, Caron Keating and John Noakes are sadly no longer with us (and I have to admit to feeling a little emotional seeing Val and Pete sat there without John to complete the big three, despite them being well before 'my' era of the show). They specifically addressed the absence of two other presenters, Mark Curry (a little bit under the weather apparently, though he was on the one show the day before and looked ok then) and Matt Baker (who sent a video explaining that he wasn't there as he has to do the one show later (so apparently having an hour to get from the Blue Peter studios to the One Show studio in the same building wasn't enough, or else the One Show has an exclusivity contract on him these days?). Gethin Jones also seem to have been absent, though this wasn't addressed. But assuming the picture on digitalspy shows every presenter that was there (i.e. none had nipped out at the time the photo was taken), then there was also an enitre presenting team apparently missing, as Simon Groom, Christopher Wenner and Tina Heath were not there. I don't think any of three have missed reunion episodes of this nature before (20th, 35th, 40th), so it did surprise me, since Simon was such a long serving presenter, Christopher has always been very enthusiastic about returning for reunions (I believe I've read somewhere), and I believe Tina's husband still arranges music for the show to this day. The whole line-up being absent does make me wonder if the current editor is of the right age to have been watching at the time Pete, John and Lesley left in quick succession and were replaced by Simon, Christopher and Tina (with Chris and Tina themselves then leaving fairly soon after) and at the time viewed the new team as poor replacements for Val, John and Pete (as lots of viewers did at the time), and whether some of that subconciously affected the invitation decisions? As for those who were there, that was all 27 of the others. I was especially pleased to see Richard welcomed back into the Blue Peter family, and actually given a line on the live show to boot, though I suspect Stuart (who I only realised afterwards was even there) might have wondered why he wasn't the one stood beside Katy and Konnie helping with the competition reveal. I also love that Katy Hill had just one line to get right... and fluffed it good and proper! Oh yeah, and during the make item, where pairs of presenters took in turns to be given random items to attach to the mystery make, I do wonder why Tim decide to affix his two pink rounded pieces to the dog-like creation that had thus far been made in such a manner that they appeared to be a pair of breasts (or is my 35 year old mind no longer able to just accept an innocent interpretation lol). Someone on digitalspy was asking if Romana was there, and I'm pretty sure she is the one peering over Val's shoulder in the photo. I know some where wondering about Simon Thomas too, given his being tragically widowed not so long ago, but he was not only there, he actually helped present one section of the show (and did very well too). Whilst I'm writing did anyone see the press release that went round the media a few weeks ago that every single episode that survives (I estimate about 4600 of the 5026 or so shows) has been digitised, and we will soon be able to find and share our own particular favourite moments from the show. Wonder if that will be whole episodes or just selected clips though. Making about 4600 full episodes available online would be a huge technical challenge, and, I assume, a licensing nightmare, given all the different shows, films, music and other intellectual properties that have featured in the show over the years. But if they do make all the old shows fully available then what era, and what particular moments, might you want to look for and share?

I think all the question marks are probably Greg James tbh. Those are all the weeks where the bbc's description doesn't reference the presenter AND where a unique photo is not used, so that a default chart show photo is used (which is currently a picture of Greg, but this is true for all chart shows that use a default chart show photo going back many years before Greg ever did the chart show). The only exception might be if Greg missed the show at short notice, when the iplayer description and generic chart show photo had already been put in place on the iplayer page for that show.

And updating the chart of chart show presenters up to Friday 13th April 2018 (but subject to change if any of the question marks above are wrong) 1. Mark Goodier 470 1988-2002 2. Bruno Brookes 358 1986-1990 & 1992-1995 3. Tom Browne 278 1972-1978 4. Alan Freeman 258 1967-1972 5. Reggie Yates 237 2007-2012 6. Simon Bates 130 1976-1977, 1982-1985, 1987 & 1992 7. Tony Blackburn 123 1979-1982 8. Joel 122 (121 with JK, 1 solo) 2005-2007 9. JK 121 (121 with Joel) 2005-2007 ^10. Greg James 111 2010-2012, 2015-2018+ !11. Tommy Vance 103 1982-1987 & 1991-1992 !12. Wes Butters 102 2003-2005 !13. Jameela Jamil (1 with Clara Amfa) 97 2013-2015 14. Scott Mills (1 with Nemone, 1 with Edith Bowman, 80 solo) 82 1999-2018+ !15. Fearne Cotton (75 with Reggie Yates, 3 solo) 78 2007-2009 16 Richard Skinner 71 1984-1986 ^17 Dev 27 2009-2010, 2015-2018+ 18. Clara Amfo (1 with Jameela Jamil) 18 2015 *19.= Mista Jam 12 2017-2018+ !19.= Clive Warren 12 1995-1998 !21. Andy Peebles 4 1979 & 1983 !22=. Pete Murray 2 1968 !22=. Neale James 2 1994 !22=. Dave Pearce 2 1995 !22=. Jo Wiley 2 2002 & 2005 !22=. Nemone 2 (1 with Scott Mills, 1 solo) 2002 & 2005 *22=. Jordan North 2 2017-2018+ !28=. (14 other DJs with one guest presenting appearance)

2017 and start of 2018 Friday 6th January 2017 Dev Friday 13th January 2017 Greg James Friday 20th January 2017 Greg James Friday 27th January 2017 Greg James? Friday 3rd February 2017 Greg James Friday 10th February 2017 Greg James Friday 17th February 2017 Greg James Friday 24th February 2017 Greg James Friday 3rd March 2017 Greg James Friday 10th March 2017 Greg James? Friday 17th March 2017 Greg James? Friday 24th March 2017 Dev Friday 31st March 2017 Greg James Friday 7th April 2017 Greg James Friday 14th April 2017 Greg James Friday 21st April 2017 Greg James Friday 28th April 2017 Greg James Friday 5th May 2017 Greg James Friday 12th May 2017 Greg James Friday 19th May 2017 Greg James Friday 26th May 2017 Greg James Friday 2nd June 2017 Greg James Friday 9th June 2017 Greg James Friday 16th June 2017 Greg James Friday 23rd June 2017 Greg James? Friday 30th June 2017 Greg James Friday 7th July 2017 Greg James Friday 14th July 2017 MistaJam Friday 21st July 2017 Greg James Friday 28th July 2017 Greg James Friday 4th August 2017 Greg James Friday 11th August 2017 Greg James Friday 18th August 2017 Dev Friday 25th August 2017 Greg James Friday 1st September 2017 Dev Friday 8th September 2017 Greg James Friday 15th September 2017 Greg James Friday 22nd September 2017 Greg James Friday 29th September 2017 Greg James Friday 6th October 2017 Greg James Friday 13th October 2017 Greg James Friday 20th October 2017 Greg James Friday 27th October 2017 MistaJam Friday 3rd November 2017 MistaJam Friday 10th November 2017 MistaJam Friday 17th November 2017 MistaJam Friday 24th November 2017 MistaJam Friday 1st December 2017 MistaJam Friday 8th December 2017 MistaJam Friday 15th December 2017 Greg James Friday 22nd December 2017 Greg James Friday 29th December 2017 Jordan North (Chart of the year) Friday 5th January 2018 MistaJam Friday 12th January 2018 Greg James Friday 19th January 2018 Greg James Friday 26th January 2018 Greg James Friday 2nd February 2018 Greg James Friday 9th February 2018 Greg James Friday 16th February 2018 Greg James Friday 23rd February 2018 Greg James Friday 2nd March 2018 Scott Mills Friday 9th March 2018 Greg James Friday 16th March 2018 Scott Mills Friday 23rd March 2018 MistaJam Friday 30th March 2018 MistaJam Friday 6th April 2018 MistaJam Friday 13th April 2018 Jordan North

2016 Friday 1st January 2016 Scott Mills Friday 8th January 2016 Greg James Friday 15th January 2016 Greg James Friday 22nd January 2016 Dev Friday 29th January 2016 Greg James Friday 5th February 2016 Greg James? Friday 12th February 2016 Scott Mills Friday 19th February 2016 Dev Friday 26th February 2016 Greg James Friday 4th March 2016 Greg James Friday 11th March 2016 Greg James? Friday 18th March 2016 Dev Friday 25th March 2016 Greg James Friday 1st April 2016 Dev Friday 8th April 2016 Greg James? Friday 15th April 2016 Greg James Friday 22nd April 2016 Greg James Friday 29th April 2016 Greg James Friday 6th May 2016 Greg James? Friday 13th May 2016 Greg James? Friday 20th May 2016 Dev Friday 27th May 2016 Dev Friday 3rd June 2016 Greg James Friday 10th June 2016 Dev Friday 17th June 2016 Greg James Friday 24th June 2016 Dev Friday 1st July 2016 Greg James Friday 8th July 2016 Greg James? Friday 15th July 2016 Dev Friday 22nd July 2016 Greg James? Friday 29th July 2016 Greg James? Friday 5th August 2016 Greg James? Friday 12th August 2016 Greg James Friday 19th August 2016 Greg James? Friday 26th August 2016 Greg James Friday 2nd September 2016 Greg James Friday 9th September 2016 Dev Friday 16th September 2016 Dev Friday 23rd September 2016 Greg James? Friday 30th September 2016 Greg James Friday 7th October 2016 Greg James? Friday 14th October 2016 Greg James Friday 21st October 2016 Greg James Friday 28th October 2016 Greg James? Friday 4th November 2016 Dev Friday 11th November 2016 Greg James? Friday 18th November 2016 Dev Friday 25th November 2016 Greg James? Friday 2nd December 2016 Greg James? Friday 9th December 2016 Greg James Friday 16th December 2016 Greg James Friday 23rd December 2016 Greg James Friday 30th December 2016 Dev (Chart of the year)

I'm back from holibobs and now have the time to provide the promised updates for this thread. Frist up the remainder of 2015 (I'm just using the bbc website's descriptions of the shows for now, so a question mark means they don't directly mention the host) Sunday 14th June 2015 Clara Amfo Sunday 21st June 2015 Clara Amfo Sunday 28th June 2015 Dev Sunday 5th July 2015 Clara Amfo Friday 10th July 2015 Greg James Friday 17th July 2015 Greg James? Friday 24th July 2015 Greg James Friday 31st July 2015 Greg James Friday 7th August 2015 Greg James Friday 14th August 2015 Greg James Friday 21st August 2015 Greg James Friday 28th August 2015 Dev Friday 4th September 2015 Dev Friday 11th September 2015 Greg James Friday 18th September 2015 Greg James Friday 25th September 2015 Greg James? Friday 2nd October 2015 Greg James Friday 9th October 2015 Greg James? Friday 16th October 2015 Greg James Friday 23rd October 2015 Greg James Friday 30th October 2015 Greg James Friday 6th November 2015 Greg James Friday 13th November 2015 Greg James Friday 20th November 2015 Greg James? Friday 27th November 2015 Greg James Friday 4th December 2015 Scott Mills Friday 11th December 2015 Greg James Friday 18th December 2015 Dev Friday 25th December 2015 Greg James

Following the news about Scott Mills finally becoming the permanent chart show presenter, it reminded me of this thread and I want to give it a bit of a bump (as it has taken me flipping ages to find it with the search facility :-p). I might update for the last three years at some point next week (away on holibobs this week).

I was talking about the chart show really though, following on from Sm1ffj's list, otherwise Scott wouldn't have been incoming, as he's been at Radio 1 for yonks.

Absolutely made up for Scott, they should have given him the show years ago! And a full 3hrs too. As for Dance Anthems, if it's meant to herald the weekend schedule , and the weekend now starts on Friday, wouldst that mean it would be on Thursday evening now? That's also an interesting list to see Scott will be the oldest incoming presenter, I guess Fluff would be the oldest for an outgoing one, and wasn't SImon Bates only ever cover rather than permanent.

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Two weeks, as Wham! will knock him off for xmas.

I guess this is the best place to ask this. Does anyone know what happened to www://spotifycharts.com? They had the various charts going back to about April 2015, albeit a few missing ones in the earliest months, but suddenly now nothing goes back before 01/01/2017, or thereabouts? I was in the middle of using the data to compile something, and have now wasted the hours I put into it as the data I need to carry on the project has vanished.

What on earth is SEA? That's the second thread I've seen you mention it in, without any explanation or anything.

I'm pretty sure it means that the penalty will be applied from week 4, after three weeks of declining 'sales' are observed under SCR. Otherwise the single would in effect be given two 'sales' figures in the same week, the SCR to justify application of the rule, and the ACR to justify the final chart position.

Exactly, although what they said was nice they didn't really put him or his feats in any sort of context. Back in the day they would have said the years he presented from, Who replaced him when he left (Your starter for ten: anyone remember who that was?) and his achievements, including the five mile freefall and nelson's coulumn and so on. But being on once a week now I guess their time is far more at a premium during the actual broacast programme than it was back in the day, but maybe they should put a longer version on their webpage/iplayer for anyone interested. I watched the whole show today, and although it was a live outside broadcast (not sure how common either of those things are in the current series) I thought they did a good job, and Lindsey in particular was very good at ab-libbing around minor unexpected things, and came across to me as a really good presenter. Radzi seem pretty good too. Barney was the only presenter I've seen presenting before, but if this had been the only time I saw him then I wouldn't be sure what to think, as the other two seemed to do most of the show whilst Barney watched them. Barney certainly didn't seem like the senior presenter of the line-up today, but then I guess they've all been there a good few years now I suppose.

I watched throughout that era too! Although my earliest memories are of Mark Curry, Caron Keating and Yvette Fielding, and I think I have very hazy memories of the tail end of Simon Groom, Peter Duncan and Janet Ellis's era as it overlapped with Mark and Caron. Admittedly I was rather old for the show by the time of the likes of Matt and Liz! The thing is that even though he was well before my time I was still very aware of who John Noakes was at the time, as Blue Peter often referenced the things he'd done back then, showed clips etc. Plus I had (and still have) all the annuals and most of the other tie-in books, almost all the videos, the CD-rom etc I hope there is some sort of primetime tribute to John on the Beeb at some point. And any 60th anniversary celebrations for the show next year would be another opportunity for his legacy to be remembered. I would love, for example, a Blue Peter DVD, with complete films/segments or even full episodes from a given year or era, or themed ones drawing from all eras....

Blue Peter today paid a short tribute to the legendary John Noakes at the end of this week's show (yep, the show is only once a week now!). I wondered what people thoughts were on it. Given how far removed the current show is from the show of the 60s and 70s, and how long ago he must seem to the young target audience, I wasn't sure if he'd even get more than say a endcap with his pic and dates, so I was pleased(ish) to see that they had given over the last minute of the show to him, and especially to hear how genuinely heartfelt and respectful the presenters were when speaking about him (particularly when compared with the delivery style of the presenter (don't know her name) on Newsround on Monday covering the news of his death). On the other hand short clips used were fairly brief and some were a little random, so more than 1 minute overall might have been preferable. I seem to recall that Caron Keating's memorial in 2004 was more like 3 minutes (and she left in 2000, so she would have been relatively unknown to the target audience of 2004 too, so it isn't a case of her having greater relevance to the then audience than John would have to the current one). If you haven't seen it you can catch it on iplayer (am I allowed to link it here?) Also I would love to hear what buzzjacker's favourite memories of John Noakes were, regardless of whether you were an original viewer, or only saw some of his best bits being repeated in later years. RIP John, reunited with Shep and Patch now.

I would guess that Greg put the first song on, then whilst it was on he recorded them announcing the number one for use at the end of the show. It's unlikely TRH would be available for the entire length of the show, but who knows.