DanChartFan

They are promoting Heads Together, a mental health charity, which is why William kept turning the DJs trivial comments around to mental health. Hope it's ok to link to a page about it: http://www.royalfoundation.com/heads-toget...-mental-health/

It says Top 10, so it must be a description for the televised top 10 Reggie used to do. Guess someone putting the descriptions in chose the wrong one from the drop down list.

For once I remembered that the chart was on a Friday, and wasn't doing anything, so here I am for the chart thread :-D Slightly off-topic, but HRH The Duke of Cambridge is on Radio 1 right now!

I do see what the OCC people mean though. Look at this week's sales chart, or the download chart, and you'll see that Ed's tracks are being downloaded individually enough times to enter the top 50, so even if we go back to a pure sales chart there would still be a sort of mini invasion anyway. If you define a single as only the tracks that have been paid for individually enough times, and only add streaming to those (with perhaps a separate album tracks chart, or just all other streams counting to the album chart), then the invasion would only get stronger, even if you attempt to minimise streaming's impact by not counting individual track streams from a complete stream of an album. In any case I suspect that only a relatively few people streamed the entire album from start to finish, just as people who buy a CD album don't necessarily play the whole thing every time they listen to it (and even if they started off doing so may well routinely skip a track or tracks once they get to know the album and what they do/don't like). I also don't think that those playlists are the entire problem, as they are just the industry trying to control what gets into the chart in the same that it did with prominent walls of discounted new entries in the 90s, or multiple formats or free gifts for a physical release etc, though admittedly those were eventually tackled in the chart rules, but they didn't make new chart rules for them as soon as the first instance of heavy discounting, excessive multi-formatting or overly generous gifting was noticed. I don't like the idea of forcing the record companies to nominate a small or fixed number of tracks to be singles, but I do wonder if it should maybe it should be the case that the album tracks have to be paired up, since lesser tracks would be the b-sides in the olden days. If record companies had to tell the OCC which tracks went with which I think that would allow the record company some flexibility to change the official singles to reflect any unforeseen popularity of an album track, whilst preventing a flood of tracks. The trick for the record company would be to ensure that they either paired up the ones they expect to be most popular with ones they thought wouldn't do so well, in order to ensure each of the better tracks can chart separately, or else if they think that only a couple of tracks would ever be popular (or the artist does not have the material for a full album) then they could pair them together as one single to maximise the one single's chart impact but thereby lose the possibility of marketing that second popular track as a separate chart-eligible single. I think this pairing up of album tracks would actually hark back to the early days of the album, when it was literally a paper album (think photo album or whatever) into which multiple shellac discs (i.e. singles) would be bound, yet it could also be a better way of defining what a single is in the modern download and stream led era. I think no-one would be able to complain about unfair advantages as all tracks would be part of a pair and all artists/labels would have had the chance to decide their pairing strategy in the first place, to either try for multiple hits from the album, or maximise the impact of the best 1 or 2 tracks instead.

I believe they devised a system whereby any particular countries televote could be constructed as a sort of average of it's neighbours choices, but I hope they use a few careful provisos if that's the case, as otherwise if either the Azerbaijan or Armenia televotes were to fail they could find themselves awarding televote points to a country they have been at war with and whom they never previously ranked above bottom place in either jury or televoting. San Marino is simply not big enough to provide a statistically valid televote, but other countries sometimes fail to have a valid televote on either economic grounds or through problems with the comms infrastructure in that country, though this tends to only be a problem in parts of former Yugoslavia, and some other Balkan countries, most notably Albania.

When Bucks Fizz won in 1981 it was virtually no countries actual favourite, but all countries thought it was 'kinda nice', whilst most of the various countries true favourites were seemingly either loved or hated based on the varied points awarded or not awarded. So it is demonstrably possible to win by being the most 'tolerable' entry rather than being truly loved by anyone, but maybe that strategy doesn't work as well these days with so many more countries voting.

Having said all that it's just occurred to me that, as far as I understand it, the juries awarded their points on separate performances on Friday night, so my arguments above don't apply, but also if this juror did make this mistake then there was more than enough time to correct the mistake before the results were used during the show.

They have tried larger juries (notably one year when they first increased the jury size, then overturned the change at the last minute, resulting in different countries using different sized juries that year), but they found that a larger jury takes longer to collate its results, increasing the chances of not declaring in time (the infamous "I don't have it" moment comes to mind, from the year of the jury size confusion), though admittedly that shouldn't apply so much now that individual jurors scores are recorded first and the televote is not added into it.

Did you use the 2009 system (combining the top 10 jury and top 10 televotes for each country's overall result) or the 2010-15 system (combining the entire top 25/26 jury and televote results for each country)? I laboriously calculated the latter over night and have a slightly different listing to you. Perhaps you disregarded the made-up televotes in countries were the actual one was invalid, although have they even confirmed these yet? 1 315 Australia 2 279 Ukraine 3 242 Russia 4 178 Bulgaria 5 162 France 6 155 Sweden 7 139 Armenia 8 103 Lithuania 9 90 Belgium 10 77 Netherlands 11 76 Latvia 12 71 Austria 13 69 Italy 14 62 Hungary 15 61 Serbia 16 55 Georgia 17 53 Azerbaijan 18= 49 Poland 18= 49 Cyprus 20 35 Spain 21= 27 Israel 21= 27 UK 23 23 Croatia 24 18 Malta 25 8 Germany 26 1 Czech Republic

I'm fashionably late this evening and switched on just in time to hear Prince's new peak for Purple Rain. Sad that he's gone, but glad a new generation are now hearing his music.

16/20, but should have done better really as I count myself a Eurovision fan.....

@ TOP40 I've only just seen your message so excuse the late reply. I did indeed source all the producer credits from genome, as I freely admitted earlier in the thread (presenter credits were cross-referenced elsewhere on the net where possible). I was also fully aware of the limitations of the data (not reflecting holiday/sick cover or sudden changes of incumbent right away etc) and had made that point earlier in the thread, although admittedly I only made the point in reference to the presenter lists that were/are the focus of this thread, and perhaps in hindsight those warnings would have been worth repeating when I added the producer list as a bonus. I'd be very interested to learn more about your book.

I had no idea buzzjack was doing this, so I've already missed one streaming day. I'll try to remember to stream 10 times very day, I just hope the track is reasonably endurable as I've never heard of it. I probably won't buy though as my iTunes hasn't worked for months (holding about £30 to ransom in the process) and my amazon hasn't worked since they changed everything for streaming.

On sales alone all of those tracks were in fact comfortably in the top ten, but once streaming gets thrown in it adds in a lot of very old tracks that aren't really being bought anymore but are still being streamed nineteen to the dozen (I'm looking at you Mr Bieber!) which has the effect of shifting many of the sales top ten further down the combined chart.

Surely it depends which copy of the track I click on as to which album (if any) my stream contributes to? If I choose the single/EP/remix release then it only benefits the single/track, if I happen to choose the same track but from the parent album it benefits both the single/track and the parent album, and if I select it from a GH album or a compilation it benefits the single/track and the GH or compilation as the case may be. So in a sense a parent album and a GH could both benefit from having the same popular track on it, in that some people will stream it from the parent album and some from the GH, but one single individual stream can surely only benefit whatever single or album release is is selected from at that moment by that user.

Isn't Dragostea Din Tei by a Romanian act (or possibly acts as I think there may have been two competing versions)? Pretty sure the lyrics are in Romanian anyway.

Managed to compile this update in a mere hour thanks to the amazing resources on this forum (specifically the week by week stats pages). 06/05/2006 1 Gnarls Barkley St Elsewhere//Crazy 30/09/2006 2 Scissor Sisters Ta-Dah//I Don't Feel Like Dancin' 09/12/2006 3 Take That Beautiful World//Patience 17/02/2007 2 MIKA Life In Cartoon Motion//Grace Kelly 16/06/2007 1 Rihanna Good Girl Gone Bad//Umbrella 20/10/2007 1 Sugababes Change//About You Now 24/11/2007 4 Leona Lewis Spirit//Bleeding Love 15/03/2008 2 Duffy Rockferry//Mercy 10/05/2008 1 Madonna Hard Candy//4 Minutes 28/06/2008 1 Coldplay Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends//Viva La Vida 04/10/2008 1 Kings Of Leon Only By The Night//Sex On Fire 21/02/2009 1 Lily Allen It's Not Me, It's You//The Fear 11/04/2009 1 Lady Gaga The Fame//Poker Face 07/11/2009 1 Cheryl Cole 3 Words//Fight For This Love 27/03/2010 1 Lady Gaga The Fame//Telephone 15/01/2011 1 Rihanna Loud//What's My Name 29/01/2011 1 Bruno Mars Doo-Wops And Hooligans//Grenade 26/02/2011 4 Adele 21//Someone Like You 02/04/2011 1 Adele 21//Someone Like You 03/12/2011 1 Rihanna Talk That Talk//We Found Love 16/06/2012 1 Gary Barlow And The Commonwealth Band Sing//Sing 17/11/2012 1 Robbie Williams Take The Crown//Candy 24/11/2012 1 One Direction Take Me Home//Little Things 08/12/2012 1 Olly Murs Right Place, Right Time//Troublemaker 19/10/2013 1 Miley Cyrus Bangerz//Wrecking Ball 31/01/2015 1 Mark Ronson Uptown Special//Uptown Funk 21/03/2015 1 sam Smith In The Lonely Hour//Lay Me Down

Wow this thread has been resurrected just ahead of it's 10th birthday! :birthday: I might try to add an update from 2006 to the present day. One thing that occurs to me though is that prior to 1978 the album chart for any given sales week was announced a week later than the singles chart for the same period, and that is why when this changed there were two album charts with the same date at one point that year (I forget exactly which date), so that would need taking into account for these stats, and I've no idea what the turn around was for the Melody Maker and NME album charts prior to Record Retailer charts, or whether the RR album chart was always a week delayed or whether this just came into effect with the BMRB and it's sales diaries in 1969. Perhaps I'm over thinking things though.

It also cost Bowie two places in the top 10! Incidentally Bowie has the entire Top 7 on the Vinyl chart, and Shawn is number 1 on the Scottish chart (hope I'm allowed to share this info here).

First 20 weeks in the Top 7 is a new chart record, having now beaten the previous record holder... Wet Wet Wet's Love Is All Around who managed 19 wks.

:blush: :blush: :blush: I apologise to Kay, her family, friends and fans for inadvertently starting rumours of her death. It almost makes it worse that I had to slip-up on the lady who is actually the earliest of the surviving charttoppers.....

I was thinking first half of the 50s to be 50-54, but actually technically you're correct as decades (and centuries and milleniums) strictly speaking start on a year ending in 1. So yes Jimmy is on the list, but if we are including 1955 then we also have to put Tony Bennett on the list too, and I think Tony is the only one of these who's still musically active so to speak.

Oops :blush: I could have sworn that someone on the chart thread had said that he had 8 consecutive weeks now, and didn't bother to check myself. I also assumed that was the reason for the creation of this thread and the bracketed proviso in the title. I'll get me coat.......

Thank you for letting us know Suedehead. I wonder if she was aware of the recent resurgence in interest in her famous song, after it's use in ads, and what she made of it. I think the only surviving chartopping artists from the first half of the 50s are now Doris Day and Vera Lynn, unless there is still a surviving Stargazer.

Jo's 9 week's weren't consecutive, so the only two to make 8 consecutive weeks at 2 are Johnnie and Justin. Another record for Justin next Friday methinks, as well as becoming the first single to have it's first 20 weeks in the top7 (random stat from another thread lol)