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Pat Boone didn't either, beaten by All Shook Up then Diana.

X-2-2-2-1-1-2-2-2-X would be even more pleasing!

I've wondered the exact same thing! Normally the same xmas songs are in the charts in the same sort of order within the chart and certain songs tend to be at the same level as each other (mariah and pogues, or slade and wizzard etc) but this year slade has been noticeably out of it's normal place in that order. I did think that maybe years of Yewtree stories had turned people against 70s tracks in general, but Wizzard are seemingly not affected by it. Presumably they are still available on all the usual downloading and streaming sites?

Didn't see your post till afterwards, but I have crunched all the numbers, so hope my post below is useful. And please let me know where you think Louisa will rank compared to her predecessors.

I realise that viewers don't always equate to sales, and also that the popularity or otherwise of the winner has an effect on things, so I decided to try and number crunch it with a view to predicting weekly sales for Louisa's track. Here are the past winners again and rather than posting a sales figure for each week I have one, I've instead turned it into a number that is 'how many people were watching the final results show for each individual sale in the weeks in question', obviously after the first week the figures tend to get big quite quickly (i.e. a lot of people needed to be watching the final show to translate into each sale in weeks 2 onwards). If we looked just at the first week sale and calculate the number of viewers of the final show needed to secure each sale, then rank the winners accordingly, we get this chart of winners apparent popularity among X Factor final viewers: 1. Shayne Ward - 13.342 viewers per first week sale 2. Leona Lewis - 18.871 3. James Arthur - 20.508 4. Alexandra Burke - 24.408 5. Joe McElderry - 36.111 6. Ben Haenow - 36.795 7. Matt Cardle - 37,699 8. Leon Jackson - 44.353 9. Little Mix - 57.536 10. Sam Bailey - 59.925 11. Steve Brookstein - 78.197 If we can correctly gauge Louisa's popularity against that scale and crunch the numbers we could come up with a weekly estimate of her sales for the first two or three weeks, and from thence to a xmas number one prediction...... Here's all the figures for all the weeks that I have a sales figure for: Steve - Wk 1 - 78.197 viewers per sale Wk 2 - 377.273 Wk 3 - 585.882 Shayne - Wk 1 - 13.342 Wk 2 - 74.839 Wk 3 - 182.819 Leona - Wk 1 - 18.871 Wk 2 - 98.875 Wk 3 - 276.410 Wk 4 - 537.924 Leon - Wk 1 - 44.353 Wk 2 - 102.664 Wk 3 - 381.021 Alexandra - Wk 1 - 24.408 Wk 2 - 45.080 Wk 3 - 134.605 Wk 4 - 408.246 Joe - Wk 1 - 36.111 Wk 2 - 83.176 Wk 3 - 233.265 Matt - Wk 1 - 37.699 Wk 2 - 62.939 Wk 3 - 146.412 Wk 4 - 358.878 Wk 5 - 557.164 Little - Wk 1 - 57.536 Wk 2 - 103.707 James - Wk 1 - 20.508 Wk 2 - 44.867 Wk 3 - 54.666 Wk 4 - 136.084 Sam - Wk 1 - 59.925 Wk 2 - 104.593 Wk 3 - 321.048 Ben - Wk 1 - 36.795 Wk 2 - 71.487 Wk 3 - 154.551 Wk 4 - 249.170 Wk 5 - 324.209 Wk 6 - 330.385

Typical me, I double-checked all the more obscure ones (i.e. the last 5 years mainly) then get the two most famous ones mixed up..... Thanks for letting me know, all corrected now.

Oops... heres the figures: 2004 - The Brookstein Aid Factor Sat 11th Dec 1830 8.62m (#14) Sat 11th Dec 2132 9.96m (#20) 2005 - The Ward Factor Sat 17th Dec 1839 9.65m (#13) Sat 17th Dec 2110 9.90m (#11) 2006 - The Lewis Factor Sat 16th Dec 1859 10.52m (#4) Sat 16th Dec 2129 10.78m (#3) 2007 - The Jackson Factor Sat 15th Dec 1914 11.78m (#2) Sat 15th Dec 2136 12.23m (#1) 2008 - The Burke Factor Sat 13th Dec 1909 13.77m (#2) Sat 13th Dec 2145 14.06m (#1) 2009 - Rage Against The McElderry Factor Sat 12th Dec 1930 13.34m (#2) Sun 13th Dec 1929 16.28m (#1) 2010 - The Cardle Factor Sat 11th Dec 1859 13.94m (#4) Sun 12th Dec 1929 16.55m (#1) 2011 - The Little Military Mix Choir Factor Sat 10th Dec 1959 10.35m (#4) Sun 11th Dec 1929 12.09m (#1) 2012 - The Justice Arthur Factor Sat 8th Dec 2000 8.78m (#4) Sun 9th Dec 1939 10.04m (#3) 2013 - The Bailey Factor Sat 14th Dec 1959 7.79m (#7) Sun 15th Dec 1930 8.92m (#3) 2014 - The Haenow Factor Sat 13th Dec 2029 7.34m (#4) Sun 14th Dec 2003 8.03m (#3)

Isn't as big? Here's the ratings for every finals weekend in history. If the figure someone quoted for last night of around 6m is correct then it's the least watched final weekend show ever, and even with an increase for tonight they'll surely struggle to gain the extra 2m+ viewers needed to beat last years record low for the Sunday final.

Too early to tell. Not playing the new entries was odd, and two news bulletins during the show and an extended one afterwards are a downside. On the plus side I do rate Greg as a host, and there was a lot more focusing on getting through the chart and a lot less nonsensical texts and stuff. Maybe rather than trying to play a fixed part of the chart in full they should try to play new entries, climbers and the top 3, then slot extra tracks in to make up the time.

I'd guess that, in keeping with the order the chart is played out, his copy of the chart is printed (or formatted if not a print copy) with 40 at the top and 1 at the bottom, so that the arrows for up and down are in effect the opposite way round to the chart, and that led to his confusion there.

Can't quite believe the missing data fiasco lol. I jokingly said a week or two ago that originally the chart counted down the best-selling single of the week, then downloads came along and it became (at least to me at the time) a countdown of the best-selling non-single of the week, then streaming made it the best non-selling non-single of the week. This non-week (5 days data) would thus have been the best non-selling non-single of the non-week, but it turns out that with the missing data it could be the non-best non-selling non-single of the non-week!!!!

Yep it would have been, and would have been the only charttopper in 2000 to have gone past two weeks, and one one of only 4 (IIRC) that even made two weeks at the top that year.

Wasn't that because there was a separate breakers show before the news update, then the charts show proper was on from 16:30?

I think tonight's episode was a masterclass in Corrie at it's best, albeit a very emotional best. I thought Eileen Derbyshire was especially good, and was glad they remembered that Emily had thought of her like a daughter and that it was important that Emily would be particularly affected. I also liked a few of the other touches that they put in, Audrey saying 'Tracy, luv' and in a similar way to how Dierdre/Annie would have said it too, but beyond that when Tracy broke right down and got up to fall into Ken's arms and later when she looked at the cake and said 'Oh, mam!' both of those moments where played by Kate with the same style (if that's the right word?) of emotional acting that Annie herself would have played them with, especially the 'Oh, mam' which was so remeniscent of Dierdre's 'Oh, Ken!' whenever she was upset about something. It must have been so hard for all the cast to record tonight's episode too.

I'm with the majority here, in that the charts and music industry of today no longer really interest me any more. I don't download singles (too likely to fail for me to want to spend the money) and can't buy them physical any more, not that there's anything I want want to buy particularly. With youtube/streaming I no longer buy greatest hits albums and never really bought regular albums anyway, and until recently my last foothold in contemporary chart music was buying each Now album when it came out, but I haven't bought the last two now as I'm not really interested in anything on them any more. Net result is that for the first time since I was about 11 I am not putting any money at all into the music industry, unless a free steaming account somehow puts any money in even though I almost never see an advert via it. We used to define a chart as a tabulation of sales in a week, then it became psuedo-sales in a week, now it's going to become psuedo-sales in a psuedo-week so it is even becoming statistically pointless as well as being musically pointless. My solution as of the start of this year has been to start again from the 90s. Each week I put together a streaming list of the equivelant weeks chart from 25 years ago to listen to, and pretend I'm living back in the age of real sales of real music in a real week......

What about some members of Hot Chocolate and 10cc? Or are the Carribbean members from other nations there? Also wondered about the Fugees, but that's probably because they covered Bob Marley tracks.

The final artist to join our list in the seventies is Gordon Giltrap, whose single Heartsong peaked at 21 on w/e 11th February 1978. If it reminds of you of topless sunbathing in warmer climes it's because it was the theme to the BBC's holiday programme from 1978 to 1985, and the opening sequence usually featured such images at the time despite being on in the early evenings. Gordon reached the charts once more, in 1979. with Fear Of The Dark, which only got to 58. Z1LbcD_vRU0

A bit of cheese next, with The Floral Dance, but not the Brighouse And Rastrick Brass Band instrumental, which had already peaked at 2 for six whole weeks in Dec 77 and Jan 78, held off the top only by the million-selling Mull Of Kintyre. This is the version recorded by Terry Wogan (he of the Radio 2 breakfast show, TV chat shows, Children In Need and Eurovision) which peaked at 21 on w/e 28/01/1978. Terry subsequently lent his vocal 'talents' to a charity single, Peace On Earth-Little Drummer Boy, which got to 3 in the xmas chart of 2008, but that was under the act name Bandaged, and not in his own name, and thus I discounted that in including him here. He did however chart again under his own name, in a duet with Aled Jones, the following year, with Silver Bells/Me And My Teddy Bear, which got to 27. There was also a jungle remix of his Floral Dance in 1995, but that appears to have stayed clear of the charts entirely. ElnCI1fkfFM

1977 now, and Tony Etoria's only charting single, I Can Prove It, peaked at 21 on w/e 09/07/77 0lDXN36wCFg

W/e 04/12/1976 sees Hank C Burnette's only charting single, Spinning Rock Boogie peak at 21. 2OWe1ANJCOU

Next up are the J.A.L.N. Band whose first charting single, Disco Music (I Like It), peaked at 21 on w/e 16/10/1976. Two more of their singles made the charts, I Got To Sing reached 40 in 1977 and Get Up reached 53 in 1978. Z4BIojBvxT8

Weirdly our next artist manages to be a repeat offender on this list. We previously saw him as part of The Nice in 1969, and he would go on to also have one charting single as part of the supergroup Emerson Lake And Palmer, Fanfare For The Common Man, which peaked at 2 in July 1977, prevented from chartopping by the recently departed Errol Brown's Hot Chocolate and So You Win Again. However as a soloist Keith Emerson only had one charting single, Honky Tonk Train Blues, which peaked at 21 in w/e 01/05/1976. Va1WyPdxyqs

Crispy And Company had reached 26 in 1975 with Brazil. Their only other charting single, Get It Together, peaked at 21 in weeks ending 17th and 24th January 1976. J1Ekrkbqbdg

Next up is Chequers, who peaked at 21 on w/e 1st November 1975, with RocK On Brother. They did have one more charting single, Hey Miss Payne, in 1976, but that only got to 32. Sfcr8QXiGmM

This one is one that most of you will know, and I suspect a lot of you will be surprised that it only got to 21, that she never had any other charting singles, and that she hasn't even been back in the charts as a result of downloads in recent years (which I could have sworn she had, but no). It's Maria Muldaur and her classic Midnight At The Oasis, which peaked at 21 w/e 27/07/1974. VlrKETxwRvM