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This "group" you were in. Were they scientists? Or people who already believed in "forces" and "auras"? If you were blindfolded how do you know they weren't just moving out of your way? Hardly scientific! You should have set up a video camera to record the results. Or had independent observers (scientists or otherwise) to note the results. We humans have huge psychological effects on each other. Some of which are nigh on miraculous - as anyone who's watched Derren Brown at work will know. We are all open to suggestion and manipulation whether we think we are or not. The recent programmes by Richard Dawkins that you enthused about in another thread did a similar thing with water diviners. As soon as you apply the scientific method all of their powers seem to evaporate! Believe in "auras" and "forces" if you want to. As I said in my first post in this thread, "As with religion, either you believe or you don't. I don't." I tend to side with Derren Brown and Richard Dawkins, rather than Derek Acora and Obi Wan Kenobi!

I guess this is a statistic too. So you won't believe this one either. Were the statistics government ones? Scottish Health Service ones? You don't know because the original post doesn't say. But you've decided they're govt. ones so it's easier to disbelieve them. (I am no truster of statistics or politicians either - believe me!) I think the chief point you are all struggling with is actually just how bad smoking is for you. Health improves immeasurably and immediately someone stops smoking. So you shouldn't be surprised that a smoking ban leads to good news - because it has happened everywhere a smoking ban has been applied. A smoking ban is always good news for the population it is applied to regardless of how manipulative the government who introduces it might be! As I said before - live with it!

Ones I like… 6 8 3 ALL OF MY HEART ABC 8 13 4 THE MESSAGE Grandmaster Flash 14 14 9 TODAY Talk Talk 15 7 5 WHAT Soft Cell 16 12 5 NOBODY'S FOOL Haircut 100 17 24 5 WHY Carly Simon 23 21 4 LEAVE IN SILENCE Depeche Mode 25 22 7 UNDER THE BOARDWALK Tom Tom Club 26 18 9 JOHN WAYNE IS BIG LEGGY Haysi Fantayzee 28 38 4 GLITTERING PRIZE Simple Minds 32 31 6 WINDPOWER Thomas Dolby 35 33 7 18 CARAT LOVE AFFAIR Associates 42 30 10 DON'T GO Yazoo 43 70 2 DO YOU WANNA FUNK Sylvester

Love both, but the Kinks have it.

'76 was the calm before the storm. No punk. No disco. Not a great chart at all. The ones I like (mostly reissues) are… 5 ( 7 ) Jungle Rock - Hank Mizell 12 ( 18 ) Hey Jude - Beatles 13 ( 9 ) Yesterday - Beatles 23 ( 28 ) Movin' - Brass Connection 27 ( 23 ) Paperback Writer - Beatles 28 ( 30 ) Get Back - Beatles 32 ( 17 ) Take It To The Limit - Eagles 34 ( 32 ) Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles 36 ( 33 ) Riders On The Storm - Doors 37 ( -- ) Help - Beatles

Another fab winner from Russ. 2nd is my best placing since the new leaderboard. Yay! Love Jack's too.

Maybe his dartboard needs replacing…

In my earlier post I wondered about the small number of replies this thread had had. I assumed it was because people prefer to whinge about bad news than even see any good news. I was right. So desperate are they for bad news that Bry and ICR choose not to believe it. It must be Scottish joggers. Ha! Or the figures must have been manipulated. Just enjoy some good news for once! Smoking is catastrophically bad for our bodies in so many ways. Any reduction in smoking is going to lead to improved health figures. Live with it!

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My money's on The Daily Mail.

Scientific tests have been done on the human brain that prove that we use most of it all the time. The "80% unused" is a very old myth long discredited. In 1935 a scientist called Karl Spencer Lashley had been experimenting on rats and concluded that up to half of their brain could be destroyed without changing their ability to learn. Assumptions were made about all brains based on this. In the 40s in America a place called The Pelman Institute ran ads for self-improvement courses which said "What's holding you back? Just one fact - one scientific fact. That is all. Because, as science says, you are using only one-tenth of your real brain power!" And so the myth grew. Nowadays we have CAT, PET and MRI scans which prove that there are NO inactive regions of the brain - even when we're asleep! See what I mean about not believing what you don't want to believe whether it's been scientifically proved or not? Sorry, I'm starting to sound like Stephen Fry or Richard Dawkins!

Thanks for the heads-up on this. Didn't know it was on! Worth seeing for all the old footage.

I thought maybe this was true when I first joined, but I'm fairly convinced now that it isn't he case. Covers like russt68's recent Manics and Editors examples were neither by artists popular on these boards (glossy babes) nor even featured pictures of the groups and yet they won (quite rightly too - they were great graphic design). Anyway here are my votes: 1. N (10 points) 2. A 3. M 4. K 5. Q 6. P 7. E 8. H 9. C 10. B

As with religion, either you believe or you don't. I don't. Scientific proof rarely changes beliefs so why bother? I'd rather see the money spent on something more important.

Yes, upthread people were saying he would off lightly because he's a celebrity, but he's finished. It's precisely because he's a celebrity that the media aren't going to let him retire in ignominy, they are going to pursue him. He'll probably have to leave the country.

Wow! Now that is a great cover russt68!

Nevertheless backstreet abortionists will be visited and pregnancies will be terminated if abortion is made illegal. "Reason" doesn't always come in to it. Yeah, dump it on the grandparents. What if there aren't any alive, or to be found? My sister had a baby at the age if sixteen. It was put up for adoption. I didn't realise at the time how much it affected her until years later when she phoned me one evening in floods of tears about it. She said that the baby girl had haunted her her whole life, even though she had subsequently got married and had other children. Thankfully the first thing that my unseen neice did when she was allowed to at the age of 18 was contact her mother (my sister), so some kind of closure was reached. The trouble is with your "reasoning" is that it never takes account of the ebb and flow of real life. It's all so reasonable but never very realistic.

Er, you did a thread like this for 3rd of September. Is 3 weeks ages? :lol: Sugababes seem like the best bet for No. 1, unless Sean Kingston or 50 Cent prevent it. Iglesias, Melua and Penate have a chance at top 10. Can't see any of the others making the top 10.

Or hit them with your car.

Strange title for a thread. Epidemic? Is abortion catching, like flu? Surely it's a teen pregnancy epidemic (except you can't catch pregnancy either). Teen pregnancy increase? Not really, teenage pregnancy has been the norm through most of human history. It's amazing to me that there aren't more teenage pregnancies (it's currently only 26 per 1,000 births). One might almost say it's not natural…

Although the case is, of course, ridiculous, the nastiness of the article rather destroys the journalist's point "Reading that, you half wish the copper had dispensed with the bin and just thrown him headfirst into one of those giant metal-crushing machines that you see on the dilapidated outskirts of our cities, or into one of those enormous furnaces for toxic medical waste that may or may not lead to cancer clusters." So witty, so charming. "Just as we know that the scales of justice are tilted unfairly in favour of the asylum seeker who commits a crime and against his or her British-born victim." Rabble-rousing xenophobic, racist c**p "Later we wonder how come our young people seem intent on shooting one another" What, all of them? Stupid generalisation. This bigot sound like Richard Littlejohn or someone of that ilk. Pity really because the basic point is sound. I just find myself unwilling to ally myself with this obnoxious guff. If I were his child, throwing conkers at people would be the least of my antisocial problems!

Bizarrely you are the second person to proclaim their weight on this thread - and the second person to be slightly overweight! Your Body Mass Index is 25.23. It should be below 25 - so, to be fair, you're only just over! :lol: Anyone else want to criticize the overweight while being overweight themselves? Perhaps you should try the NHS's Body Mass Index Calculator here before you do! Oh, and in case you were wondering, my weight is 12 stone 2 pounds and I'm 5'11". My BMI is 23.71. :P

I'm not sure if I like the sound of a "90s revival circuit" - it makes me feel so old! :cry:

I'm assuming this thread hasn't had many replies because it's some good news for a change. We prefer bad news to whinge about - which is, of course, what the sensationalist tabloids provide.