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Hated it at first but loved it a few minutes later. I agree with you both.

Me too please! :P

I'm black and it's racist and stupid. Assuming my future son/daughter is black too, I don't want him/her learning about RAP in English class. I find that racist too! Listening to old rap songs from the 90s, they used to talk about important topics e.g. staying alive and doing something positive in life, but now it's about having naked women dancing around, drugs, "bling bling" and how many times they can fit the n-word into one sentence. What is there to analyse?

The Way I Are- :puke2:

I didn't know about them. Obviously I wouldn't. It's sadder that millions of black people were bashed, beaten, arrested, raped, torn way from their lives and families, drowned, branded, killed, etc than thousands of white people who were bashed, beaten and arrested. Sorry, but that's how I feel. I can tell that people are getting defensive so let's all pretend that racism doesn't exist anymore, black people need to stop playing the race card, blah blah blah...I'm done.

How many times do I have to tell you Amy? Leave! :arrr:

Don't like All I Have. It was a bore. :puke2:

I could've written that myself...except for the bold parts. I just think it's so sad. Why did her parents let her do this? I guess with all that money, they probably had no choice in the matter. She can provide for herself so probably told them where to go. I knew she wasn't as innocent as I thought when I realised they'd dyed her hair blonde and she'd gotten a belly button piercing already. I swear that she said yrs ago: I want to be like Britney, but better. I think it is down to discipline. It might sound harsh, but I remember Beyonce saying that yrs ago when she was getting bigheaded about Destiny's child's success and was rude to her mum, Tina slapped her face. It sounds extreme, but it brought her back down to earth with a bang. She realised that no matter how high she was, her parents would always be higher. I guess Jamie didn't get that sort of lessson. It is bad. 200yrs ago it would've been okay, but not today. How else can you portray this? It's soooo sad. I'm disappointed. It's none of my business and I obviously don't know her personally, but I feel like it's Britney's bad times happening all over again. Thank you. It's not like they blamed Britney's rebellious streak on their older brother. My older sister made many stupid mistakes, so I didn't make them same ones myself. She's using her brains more nowadays and turned herself around. Learn from your own and other people's mistakes so that they didn't happen in vain.

That's what I thought when I heard she eloped the first time... You lot are saying it's false, so I'm going with that...I hope you're right. Besides, someone else I read that after finding out how bad his past is, she has stopped hanging around with him anyway. If it's true, it'll come out in the end.

I partly agree, the way it would cut back and forth between her dancing and sitting down, the whole thing in general, was silly...but I thought the video was down to just her and the director? It's silly that they're complaining about her being photoshopped in her video. Her pictures (and all the other celebrities and models) are photoshopped in photos ALL the time, so what difference does it make. I just think that she looked fine before. I'm trying to lose weight and would love at to be at her current size. Besides, even if they did spend loads of money photoshopping her, what's it got to do with that guy anyway? Does he work at Jive or know someone who does?

Probably won't be, but hopefully... I vote for outside top 40 even though it won't happen. :puke2:

Amy, the door is over there...goodbye. :drink:

I wouldn't believe it until I saw them getting married, with my own eyes. Wasn't this MTO article printed ages ago? Plus somewhere I read that she sees him like a "little brother". AND apparently he's going out with a Canadian singer. AND apparently he's going out with his manager. AND apparently he's going out with a girl called Sade in Australia who he met on tour. AND apparently he's going out with me in my dreams. I'll let you be the judge.

I hope otherwise she is going to start getting on my nerves...if you're not bothered, don't go on about it. Who mentioned it first in the first place?

I'm not a troll. Totally serious. It's like she started to dance :yahoo: , gave up :( , then tried again :yahoo: , then gave up <_< . She should've turned up on time and danced...wasn't there a choreographer? MUCH better than GM :puke2: and I loved the background with the colours but she looked out of it :wacko: . Maybe I had too high expectations and I got too excited for my own good :w00t: . Anyway, as long as everyone else loves it and buys the single, I honestly don't care. :dance: Just because this doesn't go down as one of her greatest videos for me, it doesn't mean that I don't want it to be a success. :) I still get chills watching Stronger because I think she looks gorgeous in it, and maybe none of her other videos will ever top how gorgeous that vid and song are. :wub:

I was disappointed with the "dancing" and she looked tired/out of it a lot. What part did the lookalikes play, because I watched it three times and I'm not really sure...I really like the song (hated it before) but the video, to be honest, does nothing much for me. Wish her the best with the song and hopefully she'll sell loads and gain more confidence and return to the way she was (or even better than) before.

Totally agree. If the men had been aborigines and the girl some blonde, blue eyed "angelic" looking white girl, darn right they would've gone to jail. We can't ignore blantant discrimination in case some overly sensitive people assume that we're "playing the race card". What other reason could there be for this nonsense? Oh but it's okay to play the poverty card but not the racism one? That judge is sick in the head. Karma will visit her soon. Hopefully the little girl hasn't been permanently scarred and will go on to a brighter future.

That's just the way it is. We sometimes pay for our ancestors mistakes whether we like it or not. Compared to what other people go through with other forms of racism, it's not a big price that'll really affect you, in my opinion. I'd rather your "black racism" than my "white racism". Plus if you jumped into that photo and told the girl that not everyone hates your race, she probably would look around you both and ask you to point out the person who was on her side...it'd take a while. Of course not everyone was like that, but how vocal were the people who weren't racist? If they kept silent whilst others suffered, imo, they're almost as bad. E.g. Schindler's list and the Jews he helped. He actually DID something against.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the bold sentence <_< ... Slavery? Fine, I've gotten over it. So easy. Just like that. It was 200yrs ago...but then I click on a website and read that black people (I don't know about other races) are STILL being transported as slaves, I think to the Arabian countries. That's not 200yrs ago, that's today. It's not happening to me, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt. I just looked on google to see if I was correct, and a jstor article called Black slavery in the twenty-first century came up. It said that black people have been enslaved for at least 1500yrs. How can you get over that? Plus the effects of slavery are still within the black community today. E.g. a lot of dark skinned black men seek/would prefer a lighter skinned/white female (apparently on the plantations, the lighter skinned black people could work in the house instead of outside). I think most black women permanently straighten our naturally curly hair, a few do it to get closer to the "white ideal", using chemicals so now straighter hair is called "good hair" and curlier hair is called "bad hair" and there's some black women bleaching their skin to become whiter, risking death with every application. This killer skin bleach is probably being sold in shops/stores you go past all the time. A lot of black women try and pretend they have Indian/Native American/Chinese/White/whatever in their blood just so they won't be classed as black. Basically, slavery has made black people not want to be black. I guess "black racism" helps some of us vent our frustration, because we can get away with it most of the time. Plus I personally come across black racism very little e.g. on black comedy shows the comedian might joke about there being only one white person in the audience. The white person laughs with everyone else because they know there's no malice in it whatsoever, especially when the comedian assures them that they don't really mean whatever insult and welcome them with everyone else. "White racism" happens ALL the time e.g. innocent black man gets gunned down by police the day before his wedding for no reason, black people tortured to force a false confession, a young black schoolboy's school turns against him because a racist child insulted him and the black boy's mother tried to have the racist punished, Damilola Taylor's case taking ages to solve unlike cases involving white children, Stephen Lawrence. It's scary. Assuming my children are black/mixed race, I hope the world is a better place in ten yrs so they grow old and die instead dying before they've even lived. PS. Sorry if you felt I wrote a lot :unsure: , but this is a great topic!

Heard this argument before and still don't agree with it. The other eleven months are basically white history so if you took another month, you'd have the whole yr again. Plus America chose the shortest month out of them all. I'm sure 28/29 days out of 365/366 is nothing major. True. :(

Amy you are the weakest link- adios! :P

Was SUGAR MAMA

Have you heard it yet? Sorry if already been posted. It's on the Grape juice blog, DC3Forever forum but if you can't find them I'll send you the zshare link. I really like it. Some people could find it "corny" but I think it's sweet. Someone wrote the lyrics out: I see the day pass me by when I'm next to you. For the longest time, I prayed that I could ride up in your _____. As the wheels, they roll, Time go so slow, feels like I've disappeared. Got your eyes on the road, and so many things, Its just like I'm not here. (No more) I can hear the music playing. Tune into my favourite station. Without ___ on my face But that's no remedy. When your heart, it seem to be breaking. Tell you and you just don't listen. Don't know how much far I can take it. Nothing to say but Stop this car I don't wanna ride no more Cause its just Too fast And you wont pump the breaks Slow down And hear what I gotta say Stop this car Was our destination way too far I wanna get out I don't wanna ride no more. Baby just stop this car. Dark night surrounding me, Watching your lights fade away.

True. Never thought of that. Sad but true.

Thank you. The live performance on GMA was exciting, energetic, exhilarating, etc... The CD version... -_-