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1978, just before the chart became a top 40, on Sundays (increased from the top 20)...easy listening, meets punk, meets disco..The Dooleys greatest hits album is now available, for the first time 29 years on...championed last year by DAVID HAMILTON on BIGL..and weren`t they just great! (Our mate MUSHY doesnt like easy listening) But it has its place even today...punk dies, rock `n roll dies, but there will always be easy listening! On 1978, BROWN GIRL IN THE RING (the B SIDE of RIVERS OF BABYLON) was actually flipped by djs in Jul 78, and BROWN GIRL became the new A side pushing up sales...some people idnt even realise it was a B side, and may have bought the record twice..BROWN GIRL IN THE RING went all the way to number 2, behind YOU`RE THE ON THAT I WANT. Consequently, RIVERS OF BABYLON became the biggest seller of 78...but if it hadnt been for BROWN GIRL IN THE RING it may not have!!!!

Yep I forgot to mention that one! TOM CHANCE, the man who could drink a pint in 10 seconds. He also, did not puntuate his sentences, like he would say "come for package" or "want bread"...instead of "I have, or I would like"!! I did like that one very much...BRENDA BLETHYN would come out with a squeaky voice saying "oh Tom"..THAMES used to team it up with FRESH FIELDS on a Tuesday evening..FRESH FIELDS was good, but the follow up FRENCH FIELDS was not, because half the characters from the original, were missing

The change of compilation date didn`t alter the position, DEREK CHINNERY(BBC producer/chart compiler just began to request the NME, MELODY MAKER and DISC charts earlier. This was due to the fact that, sometimes PICK OF THE POPS was recorded on a Thursday/Friday, and the charts/music press were all available on Thursdays anyway. The RECORD RETAILER chart did not figure in the BBC`s averaged equation until 29th March 1962, even when it did, some mathematical guess work, had to be put into practice because RECORD RETAILER excluded EPs and LPs from their main singles chart, and the BBC wanted them all in one. ARE YOU SURE and the ALLISONS made it to number one, in DISC and MELODY MAKER, thus it was a BBC number one too, adding up to 4points that week, while ELVIS and WOODEN HEART was on 5points, so he became the weeks number 2. I will explain the "points" system later in the thread, its complexed sometimes! The lowest amount of points makes the number one! On sales the number 1 AND 2 that week must have been very close, anyway...because ELVIS went back to the top, on the 27th Apr 61. Derek explained that averaging the charts, "means when you take 3 or 4 published charts, and add them together, it means you are taking into account over 250 - 300 shops sales figures that equals, a pretty damn accurate and fairer top 20". Had Derek, also been using RECORD MIRROR that week, the ALLISONS would have been further ahead, of ELVIS, but from 21st May 60, RECORD MIRROR`s compilation, and publication date, made it impossible for Derek to include. He didn`t use any RECORD RETAILER`s charts before 62, because it was just a business paper, and only sampled no more than 25+ shops, and was very much way behind all the other charts. At one point (from around 1968, Denys Jones(another producer compiler) had thought about using MELODY MAKER`s charts, on their own, (MM had the biggest sample of shops, then 150+ every week) but later, of course the BBC join forces with the BRITISH MARKET RESEARCH BUREAU, and pulled in nearly 500+ shops

FATHER DEAR FATHER ran from 68 - 73, though an Australian series was made in 77, it was Thames very first sitcom. BLESS THIS HOUSE ran from 71 - 76, the DOCTOR series ran from 69 - 78, with a BBC version DOCTOR AT THE TOP in the early 90s. LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR came back for Australia in 1980, but originally ran from 72 - 76. I think the worse sitcoms were political based things, like NO JOB FOR A LADY and EXECUTIVE STRES both with PENELOPE KEITH. I would say NOT ON YOUR NELLY was a tad better than NEAREST AND DEAREST it was the follow up series. MY MOTHER, LOVE ALBERT starred RODNEY BEWES on ITV circa 1970, it was very very similar to 80s BBC series SORRY. In such way that AND MOTHER MAKES THREE/FIVE was similar to NOT IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN all with WENDY CRAIG. ITV in the 80s could well be quite $h!te, with HIGH AND DRY with BERNARD CRIBBINS, and HOPE IT RAINS that was set in a waxworks (who moved more than the people! ALL AT NO`20 was ok. While WE`LL THINK OF SOMETHING was not. GRUNDY with HARRY H. CORBETT and LYNDA BARRON was dodgy. But I quite like THE UPCHAT LINE with JOHN ALDERTON. There was also MICHAEL CRAWFORD in CHALK AND CHEESE, another dodgy one. ODD MAN OUT with JOHN INMAN could have been his ARE YOU BEING SERVED character MR HUMPHRIES. MOLLIE SUGDEN was in GOODBYE MRS NOAH, and THATS MY BOY..and MY HUSBAND AND I, they were watchable but still dodgy! I was never a fan of NICHOLAS LYNDHURST, in either THE TWO OF US, or GOODNIGHT SWEETHEART. ELAINE STRITCH and DONALD SINDEN did TWO`S COMPANY, but I preferred the U.S. version THE 2 OF US with PETER COOK. KEEP IT IN THE FAMILY was good (the U.S. version was TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT (not a patch on the original) RUSS ABBOTT did the UK version of MARRIED WITH CHILDREN, called MARRIED FOR LIFE, again absolutely c**p. If anyone remembers BBC`s WILDERNESS ROAD in 86, that was abysmal! Best ITV in the 80s must be SHELLEY with HYWEL BENNETT. Anyone Remember DAVID JASON in A SHARP INTAKE OF BREATH 78 - 81, I think this was his best series(he hates it), but I loved it..it was similar to SOME MOTHERS DO `AVE EM, well nearly! On TERRY AND JUNE it was a good laugh, but I prefer the original HAPPY EVER AFTER 74 - 78. Also I love the last few series of SYKES (without the MR BROWN character), some of these are just brilliant. I was not a big fan of early NEVER THE TWAIN (DONALD SINDEN/WINDSOR DAVIES..the later series were ok, but rehashed scripts from previous Thames shows, like BLESS THIS HOUSE and again LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR. ALL of CENTRALs sitcoms were c**p, much the same could be said of THE SQUIRRELS an ATV series of the 70s, an early version of IS IT LEGAL. I would say of IS IT LEGAL 93 - 95, they could have made more. Not a big fan of JIM DAVISON`s attemps in HOME JAMES/UP THE ELEPHANT AND ROUND THE CASTLE..but never a fan of his first up (bit of an egotist, me thinks)!!

ITV`s best sitcom must have been BLESS THIS HOUSE. SID JAMES and DIANA COUPLAND were just great, it was hilarious from beginning to end. It just timeless...its scripts have been reworked over the years for many BBC shows, like NO PLACE LIKE HOME and even MY FAMILY. It can`t be denied. FATHER DEAR FATHER was also hilarious with PATRICK CARGILL. Then there was more sombe comedy with JIMMY JEWEL in SPRING and AUTUMN which included the original Peggy Mitchell too! Thames biggest hit was of course LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR...I think is possibly taken the wrong way, by the PC brigade. Very controversial!!!! It was poking fun at racist people in truth, but maybe the pc can`t see it. ITV`s answer to ALF GARNETT in the form of EDDIE BOOTH. BLESS THIS HOUSE could be repeated by ITV and get millions of viewers, it was a strong series 68 episodes long. ON THE BUSES was LWT`s strongest, ROMANY JONES and YUS MY DEAR had THERE moments, MIKE REID playing the neighbour in YUS MY DEAR. Later in the 70s ITV revived the RAG TRADE and PATRICK CARGILL returned in the MANY WIVES OF PATRICK also hilarious. The Doctor series..DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE, DOCTOR AT LARGE, DOCTOR IN CHARGE, DOCTOR AT SEA, DOCTOR ON THE GO, DOCTOR DOWN UNDER run forever but was a bit hit and miss, but they had there moments. The late 70s with MIXED BLESSINGS and MIND YOUR LANGUAGE were controversial, but they were funny. So much so, that in 1985, another production company made a further 13 episodes of MIND YOUR LANGUAGE, which only got shown in a few areas. Sitcoms are hard to find today because, PC culture kills them. Are people really afraid to laugh, at themselves, or is PC just made up, and really not such a big deal in a sitcom? Its just a case of TV companies worrying I guess.

Maybe I should do the thread of BBC number ones 57 - 69, on the Retro forum..but then I thought, this is the same thread, and will continue nicely here!! So here we go with the BBC number ones part 1... 5TH OCT 57 DIANA - PAUL ANKA (this one would have actually gone to the top on 31/08/57) 2ND NOV 57 THAT`LL BE THE DAY - BUDDY HOLLY/CRICKETS 23RD NOV 57 MARY`S BOY CHILD - HARRY BELAFONTE 11TH JAN 58 MA HE`S MAKING EYES AT ME - JOHNNY OTIS SHOW 18TH JAN 58 GREAT BALLS OF FIRE - JERRY LEE LEWIS 25TH JAN 58 JAILHOUSE ROCK - ELVIS (entered at number 1) 15TH FEB 58 STORY OF MY LIFE - MICHAEL HOLLIDAY 1ST MAR 58 MAGIC MOMENTS/CATCH A FALLING STAR - PERRY COMO 19TH APR 58 MAGIC MOMENTS (tied with WHOLE LOTTA WOMAN - MARVIN RAINWATER) 26TH APR 58 WHOLE LOTTA WOMAN - MARVIN RAINWATER 17TH MAY 58 WHO`S SORRY NOW - CONNIE FRANCIS 28TH JUN 58 ALL I HAVE TO DO IS DREAM/CLAUDETTE - EVERLY BROTHERS 23RD AUG 58 WHEN - KALIN TWINS 27TH SEP 58 STUPID CUPID/CAROLINA MOON - CONNIE FRANCIS 1ST NOV 58 BIRD DOG - EVERLY BROTHERS 22ND NOV 58 HOOTS MON - LORD ROCKINGHAMS XI 20TH DEC 58 ITS ONLY MAKE BELIEVE - CONWAY TWITTY 31ST JAN 59 ONE NIGHT/I GOT STUNG - ELVIS 21ST FEB 59 AS I LOVE YOU - SHIRLEY BASSEY 7TH MAR 59 AS I LOVE YOU (tie with SMOKE GETS IN YOUR EYES - PLATTERS) 14TH MAR 59 SMOKE GETS IN YOUR EYES - PLATTERS 28TH MAR 59 SMOKE GETS IN YOUR EYES (tie with SIDESADDLE - RUSS CONWAY) 4TH APR 59 SIDESADDLE - RUSS CONWAY 25TH APR 59 IT DOESN`T MATTER ANYMORE - BUDDY HOLLY 23RD MAY 59 FOOL SUCH AS I/NEED YOUR LOVE TONIGHT - ELVIS 20TH JUN 59 ROULETTE - RUSS CONWAY 27TH JUN 59 ROULETTE (tie with DREAM LOVER - BOBBY DARIN) 4TH JUL 59 DREAM LOVER - BOBBY DARIN 1ST AUG 59 LIVIN` DOLL - CLIFF 5TH SEP 59 ONLY SIXTEEN - CRAIG DOUGLAS 10TH OCT 59 ONLY SIXTEEN (tie with HERE COMES SUMMER - JERRY KELLER) 17TH OCT 59 HERE COMES SUMMER - JERRY KELLER 24TH OCT 59 TRAVELLIN` LIGHT - CLIFF 5TH DEC 59 WHAT DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE EYES AT ME FOR - EMILE FORD 12TH DEC 59 WHAT DO YOU WANT - ADAM FAITH NO CHART 2ND JAN 60 Derek Chinnery did not do one due to Christmas/new year 9th JAN 60 WHAT DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE EYES AT ME FOR - EMILE FORD 30TH JAN 60 STARRY EYED - MICHAEL HOLLIDAY 6TH FEB 60 WHY - ANTHONY NEWLY 5TH MAR 60 POOR ME - ADAM FAITH 19TH MAR 60 RUNNING BEAR - JOHNNY PRESTON 2ND APR 60 MY OLD MAN`S A DUSTMAN - LONNIE DONEGAN 30TH APR 60 DO YOU MIND - ADAM FAITH 7TH MAY 60 CATHY`S CLOWN - EVERLY BROTHERS 30TH JUN 60 GOOD TIMIN` - JIMMY JONES 23RD JUL 60 PLEASE DON`T TEASE - CLIFF 20TH AUG 60 APACHE - SHADOWS 1ST OCT 60 TELL LAURA I LOVE HER - RICKY VALENCE 15TH OCT 60 ONLY THE LONELY - ROY ORBISON 5TH NOV 60 ITS NOW OR NEVER - ELVIS (entered at number 1) 7TH JAN 61 POETRY IN MOTION - JOHNNY TILLOTSON 28TH JAN 61 ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT - ELVIS 4TH MAR 61 WALK RIGHT BACK/EBONY EYES - EVERLY BROTHERS 25TH MAR 61 WOODEN HEART - ELVIS PRESLEY 20TH APR 61 ARE YOU SURE - ALLISONS 27TH APR 61 WOODEN HEART - ELVIS 4TH MAY 61 YOU`RE DRIVIN` ME CRAZY - TEMPERENCE SEVEN (tie with BLUE MOON - MARCELS) 11TH MAY 61 BLUE MOON - MARCELS 25TH MAY 61 RUNAWAY - DEL SHANNON 1ST JUN 61 SURRENDER - ELVIS 22ND JUN 61 RUNAWAY - DEL SHANNON 13TH JUL 61 TEMPTATION - EVERLY BROTHERS 27TH JUL 61 WELL I ASK YOU - EDEN KANE 3RD AUG 61 YOU DON`T KNOW - HELEN SHAPIRO 24TH AUG 61 JOHNNY REMEMBER ME - JOHN LEYTON 5TH OCT 61 MICHAEL ROW THE BOAT - HIGHWAYMEN 19TH OCT 61 WALKIN` BACK TO HAPPINESS - HELEN SHAPIRO 9TH NOV 61 HIS LATEST FLAME/LITTLE SISTER - ELVIS 30TH NOV 61 TAKE GOOD CARE OF MY BABY - BOBBY VEE 7TH DEC 61 TOWER OF STRENGTH - FRANKIE VAUGHAN 28TH DEC 61 MOON RIVER - DANNY WILLIAMS All the BBC charts used to list double A sides together, whatever. From the 20th Apr 61, the chart is compiled on a Thursday..where as before the date is a Saturday(Although the chart was then compiled on Friday afternoons. On to 1962... 4TH JAN 62 STRANGER ON THE SHORE - ACKER BILK 11th JAN 62 THE YOUNG ONES - CLIFF RICHARD (entered at number 1) 22ND FEB 62 ROCK-A-HULA BABY/CANT HELP FALLING IN LOVE 1ST MAR 62 THE YOUNG ONES - CLIFF 8TH MAR 62 MARCH OF THE SIAMESE CHILDREN - KENNY BALL 15TH MAR 62 MARCH OF THE SIAMESE CHILDREN (tie with WONDERFUL LAND - SHADOWS) 22ND MAR 62 WONDERFUL LAND - SHADOWS 10TH MAY 62 NUTROCKER - B. BUMBLE AND THE STINGERS 17TH MAY 62 GOOD LUCK CHARM - ELVIS 28TH JUN 62 COME OUTSIDE - MIKE SARNE/WENDY RICHARD 5TH JUL 62 A PICTURE OF YOU - JOE BROWN 12TH JUL 62 I CANT STOP LOVING YOU - RAY CHARLES 26TH JUL 62 I REMEMBER YOU - FRANK IFIELD 13TH SEP 62 I REMEMBER YOU (tie with SHE`S NOT YOU - ELVIS) 20TH SEP 62 SHE`S NOT YOU - ELVIS 4TH OCT 62 TELSTAR - TORNADOS 8TH NOV 62 LOVESICK BLUES/SHE TAUGHT ME TO YODEL - FRANK IFIELD 13TH DEC 62 RETURN TO SENDER - ELVIS 3RD JAN 63 THE NEXT TIME/BACHELOR BOY - CLIFF 24TH JAN 63 THE NEXT TIME/BACHELOR BOY (tie with DANCE ON - SHADOWS) 31ST JAN 63 DIAMONDS - JET HARRIS/TONY MEEHAN 21ST FEB 63 PLEASE PLEASE ME - BEATLES (their first number one single, don`t let anyone tell, you different)!! 7TH MAR 63 PLEASE PLEASE ME (tie with SUMMER HOLIDAY - CLIFF 14TH MAR 63 SUMMER HOLIDAY - CLIFF 28TH MAR 63 FOOT TAPPER - SHADOWS 4TH APR 63 HOW DO YOU DO IT - GERRY AND THE PACEMAKERS 2ND MAY 63 FROM ME TO YOU - BEATLES 6TH JUN 63 FROM ME TO YOU (tie with DO YOU WANT TO KNOW A SECRET - BILLY J. KRAMER) 13TH JUN 63 I LIKE IT - GERRY/PACEMAKERS 18TH JUL 63 CONFESSIN` - FRANK IFIELD 8TH AUG 63 SWEETS FOR MY SWEET - SEARCHERS 22ND AUG 63 BAD TO ME - BILLY J. KRAMER 5TH SEP 63 SHE LOVES YOU - BEATLES 3RD OCT 63 SHE LOVES YOU (tie with DO YOU LOVE ME - BRIAN POOLE/TREMOLOES 10TH OCT 63 DO YOU LOVE ME - BRIAN POOLE/TREMOLOES 24TH OCT 63 YOU`LL NEVER WALK ALONE - GERRY AND THE PACEMAKERS 21ST NOV 63 YOU`LL NEVER WALK ALONE (tie with SHE LOVES YOU - BEATLES) 28TH NOV 63 SHE LOVES YOU - BEATLES 12TH DEC 63 I WANNA HOLD YOUR HAND - BEATLES 7TH JAN 64 I WANNA HOLD YOUR HAND (tie with GLAD ALL OVER - DAVE CLARK FIVE 14TH JAN 64 GLAD ALL OVER - DAVE CLARK FIVE 28TH JAN 64 NEEDLES AND PINS - SEARCHERS 18TH FEB 64 ANYONE WHO HAD A HEART - CILLA BLACK 17TH MAR 64 LITTLE CHILDREN - BILLY J. KRAMER 24TH MAR 64 CANT BUY ME LOVE - BEATLES (the first BEATLES disc, to enter at number 1) 14TH APR 64 WORLD WITHOUT LOVE - PETER AND GORDON 28TH APR 64 DONT THROW YOUR LOVE AWAY - SEARCHERS 12TH MAY 64 JULIET - FOUR PENNIES 26TH MAY 64 YOU`RE MY WORLD - CILLA BLACK 16TH JUN 64 ITS OVER - ROY ORBISON 7TH JUL 64 HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN - ANIMALS 14TH JUL 64 A HARD DAYS NIGHT - BEATLES (2nd BEATLES disc to enter at number 1) 11TH AUG 64 DO WAH DIDDY DIDDY - MANFRED MANN 25TH AUG 64 HAVE I THE RIGHT - HONEYCOMBS 8TH SEP 64 HAVE I THE RIGHT (tie with YOU REALLY GOT ME - KINKS) 15TH SEP 64 YOU REALLY GOT ME - KINKS 22ND SEP 64 I`M INTO SOMETHING GOOD - HERMAN`S HERMITS 6TH OCT 64 OH PRETTY WOMAN - ROY ORBISON 27TH OCT 64 ALWAYS SOMETHING THERE TO REMIND ME - SANDIE SHAW 10TH NOV 64 BABY LOVE - SUPREMES 1ST DEC 64 I FEEL FINE - BEATLES (3rd BEATLES disc to enter at number 1) 12TH JAN 65 YEH YEH - GEORGIE FAME 19TH JAN 65 GO NOW - MOODY BLUES 2ND FEB 65 YOU`VE LOST THAT LOVIN` FEELING - RIGHTEOUS BROTHERS 9TH FEB 65 TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOU - KINKS 16TH FEB 65 I`LL NEVER FIND ANOTHER YOU - SEEKERS 2ND MAR 65 ITS NOT UNUSUAL - TOM JONES 9TH MAR 65 THE LAST TIME - ROLLING STONES (this single went from 18 - 1) 6TH APR 65 CONCRETE AND CLAY - UNIT 4 PLUS 2 13TH APR 65 TICKET TO RIDE - BEATLES (the 4th BEATLES disc to enter at number 1) 18TH MAY 65 WHERE ARE YOU NOW MY LOVE - JACKIE TRENT 25TH MAY 65 LONG LIVE LOVE - SANDIE SHAW 15TH JUN 65 CRYING IN THE CHAPEL - ELVIS 29TH JUN 65 I`M ALIVE - HOLLIES 13TH JUL 65 MR TAMBOURINE MAN - BYRDS 27TH JUL 65 HELP - BEATLES (the 5th BEATLES disc to enter at number 1) 24TH AUG 65 I GOT YOU BABE - SONNY AND CHER 7TH SEP 65 SATISFACTION - ROLLING STONES 21ST SEP 65 MAKE IT EASY ON YOURSELF - WALKER BROTHERS 28TH SEP 65 TEARS - KEN DODD 2ND NOV 65 GET OFF OF MY CLOUD - ROLLING STONES (this one went from 9 - 1) 23RD NOV 65 THE CARNIVAL IS OVER - SEEKERS 14TH DEC 65 DAYTRIPPER/WE CAN WORK IT OUT - BEATLES (this one did not enter at number 1) 11TH JAN 66 KEEP ON RUNNING - SPENCER DAVIS GROUP From 31st Dec 1963, the chart was compiled on a Tuesday. 25TH JAN 66 MICHELLE - OVERLANDERS (from 5 - 1) 8TH FEB 66 THESE BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKING - NANCY SINATRA 15TH FEB 66 NINETEENTH NERVOUS BREAKDOWN - ROLLING STONES (from 6 - 1) 8TH MAR 66 SHA LA LA LEE - SMALL FACES 15TH MAR 66 THE SUN AIN`T GONNA SHINE ANYMORE - WALKER BROTHERS 12TH APR 66 SOMEBODY HELP ME - SPENCER DAVIS GROUP 19TH APR 66 YOU DONT HAVE TO SAY YOU LOVE ME - DUSTY SPRINGFIELD (from 6 - 1) 3RD MAY 66 PRETTY FLAMINGO - MANFRED MANN 24TH MAY 66 PAINT IT BLACK - ROLLING STONES (from 6 - 1) 31ST MAY 66 STRANGERS IN THE NIGHT - FRANK SINATRA 21ST JUN 66 PAPERBACK WRITER - BEATLES (did not enter at number 1) 5TH JUL 66 SUNNY AFTERNOON - KINKS 19TH JUL 66 GET AWAY - GEORGIE FAME 26TH JUL 66 OUT OF TIME - CHRIS FARLOWE 2ND AUG 66 WITH A GIRL LIKE YOU - TROGGS 16TH AUG 66 YELLOW SUBMARINE/ELEANOR RIGBY - BEATLES (went from 4 - 1) 6TH SEP 66 YELLOW SUBMARINE/ELEANOR RIGBY (tie with ALL OR NOTHING - SMALL FACES) 13TH SEP 66 ALL OR NOTHING - SMALL FACES 20TH SEP 66 DISTANT DRUMS - JIM REEVES 18TH OCT 66 REACH OUT I`LL BE THERE - FOUR TOPS (from 16 - 1) 15TH NOV 66 GOOD VIBRATIONS - BEACH BOYS 29TH NOV 66 GREEN GREEN GRASS OF HOME - TOM JONES 17TH JAN 67 I`M A BELIEVER - MONKEES 14TH FEB 67 THIS IS MY SONG - PETULA CLARK (from 7 - 1) 28TH FEB 67 RELEASE ME - ENGLEBERT HUMPERDINCK 11TH APR 67 SOMETHING STUPID - FRANK AND NANCY SINATRA 18TH APR 67 SOMETHING STUPID (tie with PUPPET ON A STRING - SANDIE SHAW) 25TH APR 67 PUPPET ON A STRING - SANDIE SHAW 16TH MAY 67 SILENCE IS GOLDEN - TREMOLOES (went from 4 - 1) 6TH JUN 67 A WHITER SHADE OF PALE - PROCOL HARUM 18TH JUL 67 ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE - BEATLES (from 3 - 1) 8TH AUG 67 SAN FRANCISCO (FLOWERS IN YOUR HAIR) - SCOTT MCKENZIE) 5TH SEP 67 THE LAST WALTZ - ENGLEBERT HUMPERDINCK 17TH OCT 67 MASSACHUSETTES - BEE GEES 7TH NOV 67 BABY NOW THAT I FOUND YOU - FOUNDATIONS 21ST NOV 67 LET THE HEARTACHES BEGIN - LONG JOHN BALDRY (from 8 - 1) 5TH DEC 67 HELLO GOODBYE - BEATLES (from 4 - 1) 16TH JAN 68 BALLAD OF BONNIE AND CLYDE - GEORGIE FAME (from 5 - 1) 23RD JAN 68 EVERLASTING LOVE - LOVE AFFAIR (from 6 - 1) 13TH FEB 68 THE MIGHTY QUINN - MANFRED MANN 27TH FEB 68 CINDERELLA ROCKEFELLA - ESTHER AND ABI OFARIUM 26TH MAR 68 LADY MADONNA - BEATLES (from 6 - 1) 9TH APR 68 CONGRATULATIONS - CLIFF RICHARD 16TH APR 68 WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD/CABERET - LOUIS ARMSTRONG 14TH MAY 68 YOUNG GIRL - UNION GAP (from 5 - 1) 18TH JUN 68 JUMPING JACK FLASH - ROLLING STONES 2ND JUL 68 BABY COME BACK - EQUALS 23RD JUL 68 MONY MONY - TOMMY JAMES/SHONDELLS (from 6 -1) 27TH AUG 68 THIS GUY`S IN LOVE WITH YOU - HERB ALPERT (tieing with DO IT AGAIN - BEACH BOYS, and GOTTA GET A MESSAGE TO YOU - BEE GEES) 3RD SEP 68 GOTTA GET A MESSAGE TO YOU - BEE GEES 10TH SEP 68 HEY JUDE - BEATLES (from 8 - 1) 1ST OCT 68 THOSE WERE THE DAYS - MARY HOPKIN 5TH NOV 68 WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS - JOE COCKER 12TH NOV 68 THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - HUGO MONTENEGRO 10TH DEC 68 LILY THE PINK - SCAFFOLD 7TH JAN 69 OB-LA-DI-OB-LA-DA - MARMALADE 28TH JAN 69 ALBATROSS - FLEETWOOD MAC 11TH FEB 69 HALF AS NICE - AMEN CORNER (from 15 - 1) The very first Official chart on the Tuesday 11th Feb 1969. Don`t let anyone refer to an Official chart before that...there weren`t one!!!! As many people are interested, as to how the BBC worked out the chart 57 - 69...here is an example, with the contraversial chart from 27th Aug 1968. It was based on positions, from MELODY MAKER, NME, and RECORD RETAILER. Firstly they note the position in MM, then NME, and finally RR... 01 03 03 THIS GUYS IN LOVE WITH YOU, added up you get 7points 02 04 01 DO IT AGAIN added up again to 7points 03 02 02 GOTTA GET A MESSAGE TO YOU again 7points (hence the tie at number one with the 3) 04 07 06 FIRE = 17points 05 01 05 HELP YOURSELF = 11points 06 05 04 MON MONY = 15points 07 06 08 I SAY A LITTLE PRAYER = 21points 08 08 07 HIGH IN THE SKY = 23points 09 09 09 SUNSHINE GIRL = 27points 10 12 13 I CLOSE MY EYES AND COUNT TO TEN = 35points 11 15 12 KEEP ON - BRUCE CHANNEL = 38points 12 11 11 HOLD ME TIGHT = 34points 13 12 10 DANCE TO THE MUSIC = 35points 14 13 16 ON THE ROAD AGAIN = 43points 15 16 17 MRS ROBINSON = 48points 16 14 14 I PRETEND = 44points 17 17 15 DAYS = 49points 18 18 18 DREAM A LITTLE DREAM OF ME = 54points 19 22 20 LAST NIGHT IN SO HO = 61points 20 29 23 THE UNIVERSAL = 72points 21 23 19 HARD TO HANDLE = 63points 22 24 21 LADY WILLPOWER = 67points 23 21 31 DREAM A LITTLE DREAM (ANITA HARRIS) If a single was missing from one top 30, it was awarded 31points, for that particular chart, whatever. 24 19 22 YOUR TIME HASNT COME YET BABY = 65points 25 31 26 MACARTHUR PARK = 82points 26 31 25 AMERICA = 82points 27 31 31 YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY = 89points 28 20 24 JESAMINE = 72points 29 31 29 BABY COME BACK - EQUALS 89points 30 30 31 LAUREL AND HARDY = 91points 31 25 31 ELEANOR RIGBY (RAY CHARLES) = 87points 31 26 31 WE CAN HELP YOU = 88points 31 27 28 VOICES IN THE SKY = 86points 31 28 27 SON OF HICKORY HOLLERS TRAMP = 86points 31 31 30 HERE COMES THE JUDGE (PIGMEAT MARKHAM) 92points Now, you have to sort out the BBC chart positions, based on the points...the lower the number of points, the higher the chart position..So the BBC TOP 30, that week, would have been as follows... 01 THIS GUY`S IN LOVE - HERB ALPERT 7PTS 01 DO IT AGAIN 7PTS 01 GOTTA GET A MESAGE TO YOU - BEE GEES 7PTS 04 HELP YOURSELF - TOM JONES 11PTS 05 MONY MONY - TOMMY JAMES 15PTS 06 FIRE - ARTHUR BROWN 17PTS 07 I SAY A LITTLE PRAYER - ARETHA FRANKLIN 21PTS 08 HIGH IN THE SKY 23PTS 09 SUNSHINE GIRL - HERMAN`S HERMITS 27PTS 10 DANCE TO THE MUSIC - SLY/FAMILY STONE 33PTS 11 HOLD ME TIGHT - JOHNNY NASH 34PTS 12 I CLOSE MY EYES AND COUNT - DUSTY SPRINGFIELD 35PTS 13 KEEP ON - BRUCE CHANNEL 38PTS 14 ON THE ROAD AGAIN - CANNED HEAT 43PTS 15 I PRETEND - DES O` CONNER 44PTS 16 MRS ROBINSON 48PTS 17 DAYS - KINKS 49PTS 18 DREAM A LITTLE DREAM - MAMA CASS 54PTS 19 LAST NIGHT IN SO HO 61PTS 20 HARD TO HANDLE - OTIS REDDING 63PTS 21 YOUR TIME HASNT COME - ELVIS 65PTS 22 LADY WILLPOWER 67PTS 23 JESAMINE - CASUALS 72PTS 24 UNIVERSAL - SMALL FACES 72PTS (Although tieing, on points, during this situation, as the SMALL FACES were falling, they were separated from the CASUALS 25 DREAM A LITTLE DREAM - ANITA HARRIS 78PTS 26 AMERICA - THE NICE 82PTS 27 MACARTHUR PARK - RICHARD HARRIS 82PTS (Again as RICHARD was falling, he was separated from THE NICE 28 VOICES IN THE SKY - MOODY BLUES 86PTS 29 SON OF HICKORY HOLLERS TRAMP - O.C. SMITH 86PTS (Again separated from a tie, because it was falling) 30 ELEANOR RIGBY - RAY CHARLES 87PTS That explains, the Averaged equation. Contrary to the fact that 3 records tied at number one, this was not the full reason, that the BBC, joined forces with the BRITISH MARKET RESEARCH BUREAU in Feb 1969. The other reason, the Official chart started, was because there was known to be hyping going on in the other charts...there had been investigations, into BOB DYLAN`s songs always being higher in NME`s chart, and lots of other artists, were getting into the 31 - 50 part of MELODY MAKER`s charts that were not even sighted in others...singers like DAVID BOWIE and KIKI DEE smashed into MELODY MAKER`s TOP 50, but didn`t show elsewhere. Even JIMI HENDRIX was allegedlly pushed by NME. So, BRITISH MARKET RESEARCH BUREAU formed exclusively with the BBC, to give a more Official chart. But this was open to argument, for the first 3 weeks, of the new style chart, the MRS ROBINSON E.P. was excluded from the chart, when it should have been in the 21 - 30 slots! If you compare the new Official chart of the week of 11th FEB 69, to the old BBC way, you get this difference... new way 01 HALF AS NICE old way number 4 02 ALBATROSS old way 2 03 BLACKBERRY WAY old way 1 04 FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE old way 3 05 DANCING IN THE STREET old way 5 06 PLEASE DON`T GO old way 8 07 YOU GOT SOUL old way 7 08 I`M GONNA MAKE YOU LOVE ME old way 5 09 OB-LA-DI-OB-LA-DA old way 9 10 TO LOVE SOMEBODY old way 10 11 I GUESS I`LL ALWAYS LOVE YOU old way 13 12 WHERE DO YOU GO TO MY LOVE old way 11 13 FOX ON THE RUN old way 12 14 SOMETHINGS HAPPENING old way 14 15 WAY IT USED TO BE old way 17 16 I`LL PICK A ROSE FOR MY ROSE old way 15 16 HEY JUDE old way 24 18 STOP HER ON SIGHT old way 19 19 GOING UP THE COUNTRY old way 23 19 LILY THE PINK old way 22 21 PEOPLE old way 18 22 PRIVATE NUMBER old way 16 23 SOUL SISTER BROWN SUGAR old way 25 24 ITS TOO LATE NOW old way 30 25 QUICK JOEY SMALL old way 31 26 WICHITA LINEMAN old way 21 27 MOVE IN A LITTLE CLOSER old way 26 28 BUILD ME UP BUTTERCUP old way 28 29 YOU AINT LIVIN TIL YOUR LOVIN` old way 26= 30 WHITE ROOM old way 36 In the old way the MRS ROBINSON E.P. would have been number 20, and SON OF A PREACHER MAN would have been 29. There wasn`t that much difference towards the Top 15, really. The MOVE though were denied a BBC number one, because of the changes. It was a faster chart though and, nearly a week in front of NME and MELODY MAKER, the BRITISH MARKET RESEARCH BUREAU lost the contract in Jan 83, to GALLUP, and GALLUP lost there contract in 1994 to MILWARD BROWN, who still compile the chart today. Now, as RADIO ONE announced the new chart every Tuesday lunchtime (Wednesdays, if the Monday were a Bank Holiday)...how about the presenters that rundown that new chart... 3RD SEPT 67 - 26TH SEPT 72 ALAN FREEMAN did a rundown of the new top 30, at 12.30pm everyweek 3RD OCT 72 - DEC 72 TONY BLACKBURN rundown the new top 30 at 12.30 every week. JAN 73 ONWARDS DAVE LEE TRAVIS played the complete new top 20 at 1pm every week. This didn`t last long! SPRING 73 - 1976 JOHNNIE WALKER rundown the new chart, at 12.30pm(this moved to 12.45, when Radio one stated the news show..NEWSBEAT. 1977 - 1982 PAUL BURNETT run down the new chart at 12.45 every week 1982 - 1983 MIKE SMITH did the rundown at 12.45 every week 1984 - 1987 GARY DAVIES run down the chart (again at 12.30) In the later part of the 70s PETER POWELL also re-capped the new chart between 6 and 7pm on a Tuesday evening..previously it had been re-capped on Wednesdays Breakfast show...and also, in the mid 80s, it was again re-capped in the Breakfast prog (but that followed the move in 87, of the new chart being announced on a Sunday evening. In the lunchtime slot, you always got to hear the complete brand new top 5, every week from 1973. During PAUL BURNETT`s reign on the lunchtime show, he also ran down the album chart on Wednesdays and the American chart on a Friday. On Mondays and Thursdays, he ran down a retro chart, from the vaults of Radio 0ne. During TOM BROWNE`s run of the TOP 20 on Sundays, PAUL BURNETT sat in for him for a week in June 74, and JOHNNIE WALKER did the Sunday TOP 20, for a week in early Sept 73. There were a few mis-haps in the Tuesday rundowns...ON the 13th March 73, the wrong chart was delivered to the BBC and JOHNNIE ran down that, but it was corrected later. But although TOM BROWNE played the correct chart on the SUNDAY, when he did the re-cap before the number one, he again ran through, the wrong one, like JOHNNIE WALKER! On the 17th Feb 76, again the wrong chart was delivered...PAUL BURNETT announced that RODRIGO`s GUITAR CONCERTO and MANUEL AND HIS MUSIC OF THE MOUNTAINS was number one! That was very incorrect! It was again corrected hours later! On the 30th Oct 79, again the wrong chart was delivered, Paul announced that DR HOOK had knocked LENA MARTELL off the chart, again it was wrong and Lena, actually did have a 2nd week at the top (although the following week DR HOOK took over, anyway). During the Sunday countdown these songs have been deemed too fithy/offensive to play... BLACK GIRL - FOUR PENNIES WET DREAM - MAX ROMEO JE T`AIME - SERGE GAINSBOURG/JANE BIRKIN GIVE IRELAND BACK TO THE IRISH - PAUL MCCARTNEY/WINGS BIG SIX - JUDGE DREAD BIG SEVEN - JUDGE DREAD BIG EIGHT - JUDGE DREAD SICK MAN BLUES - THE GOODIES JE T`AIME - JUDGE DREAD NAPPY LOVE - THE GOODIES BIG TEN - JUDGE DREAD CHRISTMAS IN DREADLAND - JUDGE DREAD LOVE TO LOVE YOU BABY - DONNA SUMMER MAGIC ROUNDABOUT - JASPER CARROT Y VIVA SUSPENDERS - JUDGE DREAD THE WINKERS SONG - IVOR BIGGUN GOD SAVE THE QUEEN - SEX PISTOLS NO ONE IS INNOCENT/MY WAY - SEX PISTOLS FRIGGIN` IN THE RIGGIN` - SEX PISTOLS TOO DRUNK TO F**K - DEAD KENNEDYS RELAX - FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD I WANT YOUR SEX - GEORGE MICHAEL THERE AIN`T NOTHING LIKE SHAGGING - THE TAMS SMACK MY b**ch UP - PRODIGY There is controversy over the TAMS because it was from a film, about a U.S. dance called the shag. During announcing a banned record the presenter would say, "We do not intend playing this record, due to the nature of the lyric". In 1989, while FRENCH KISS was in the chart, by LIL` LOUIS, radio one, never ever played the full version, because it has loads, of heavy breathing at the end of it. Also, the beginnings of records, SEX CRIME 1984 by the EURYTHMICS, and the I FEEL LOVE medley by BRONSKI BEAT/MARC ALMOND were cut due to the nature of/or references to sex. Also to note, during DAVID JACOBS run on Pick Of The Pops in 1958, he never actually played the top 20 hit by Jackie Dennis "La Dee Dah"...why that was, who knows? According to Radio One`s countdown (but not in chart books) these records tied in the chart between 1969 and 1979... 9TH DEC 69 JOINT 14 NOBODYS CHILD and TRACY 23RD OCT 73 JOINT 29 HIGHER GROUND and I`VE BEEN HURT 4TH JUN 74 JOINT 17 I CANT STOP and THE JARROW SONG 9TH DEC 75 JOINT 16 I BELIEVE IN FATHER CHRISTMAS and IN FOR A PENNY 19TH OCT 76 JOINT 11 CANT GET BY WITHOUT YOU and I`LL MEET YOU AT MIDNIGHT There are others, but those above have been missed by the chart books available today!!!

Yep, will list the BBC Number ones on the retro forum. I already use their charts, when I do the Vintage charts there. I find it hard to believe that PICK OF THE POPS and DALE WINTON do not use them today. I know many people passed retirement age that remember the original charts, Alan Freeman, David Jacobs etc, and when Dale, tells us that DES O, CONNER had a number one in 1968..they all say "but that wasn`t number one in Pick of the Pops in the 60s"!!! And it indeed only made number 2, on the BBC TOP 30! It was just GUINESS that thrust that news on us!!!

October 2007, is actually 50 years, since the BBC, started to follow a singles chart. Before this, the actual singles chart was ignored by them. RADIO LUXEMBOURG were still using Sheet music sales (1949 - 1959). The BBC, started "PICK OF THE POPS" on Tuesday 4th Oct 1955. It was a fortnightly show at 9pm. This just featured new releases. At that point, the BBC were still rather behind the times, and played loads of 40s music. That also, reflected most of the new releases in 'PICK OF THE POPS", introduced by FRANKLIN ENGELMAN (a BBC anouncer). FRANKLIN`s first theme tune was IT`S THE TUNE THAT COUNTS by FATS WALLER, (he also used one called GOOD CLEAN FUN). The first producer was DENYS JONES. The only chart show on the BBC then,was a programme called "HIT PARADE", that was also, all about sheet music (the biggest selling music of the week, played by the BBC orchestra). It went out on Sundays at 6pm. On January 10th 1956, ALAN DELL took over on PICK OF THE POPS. It was still all new releases, going out on Tuesdays, again at 9pm. This later (11th Apr 56) moved to Wednesdays. On the 5th Sept 1956, DAVID JACOBS took over. He moved to Saturdays at 6pm, from Oct 6th. Still only playing new releases, he took it to Sundays at 11pm, from 31st March 1957. The producer was now DEREK CHINNERY. On SUNDAY 29th Sept 57, ALAN DELL returned. Sunday 6th October 57, was the first time the programme, featured the latest hits (as well as new releases). All the top 10 hits from NME, RECORD MIRROR and MELODY MAKER were played, and ended up with just an averaged top 3. The first top 3 featured 3) LOVE LETTERS IN THE SAND - PAT BOONE, 2) LAST TRAIN TO SAN FERNANDO - JOHNNY DUNCAN, 1) DIANA - PAUL ANKA. Interestingly, EMI, started doing a chart of their own, that week too (slightly different from the BBC, because EMI had a small percentage of sales data) The BRITISH FORCES BROADCAST NETWORK, were already doing an averaged chart then. On the 30th March 1958, DAVID JACOBS returned to PICK OF THE POPS, this time he featured the new entries and climbers in the Aveaged Top 20 (compiled by adding positions together from NME, RECORD MIRROR, MELODY MAKER and DISC AND MUSIC ECHO. The producer of the show (DEREK CHINNERY) was supplied with the music press charts every Friday. Then he would at the positions together from all charts to come up with the BBC TOP 20 (along with his daughter). From the 24th May 58, PICK OF THE POPS moved to Saturday nights at 11pm. It stayed there for 3 and a half years. Between June 59 and Aug 59, there was a newspaper strike so many music papers were not published. (It did not affect the BBC because the papers, supplied the charts to them by post, anyway). Derek just added them together. From 21st May 1960, the chart was only added up from NME, MELODY MAKER and DISC. DAVID JACOBS` used SWINGING AT THE TOWER, by RAY ANTHONY, as the theme for his shows. On the 23rd Sept 61, ALAN FREEMAN took over the show. It was broadcasted in 3 segments at 9.20pm, 10.40 and 11.20 in a Saturday Jazz block, called TRAD TAVERN. On Sunday 7th Jan 62, ALAN FREEMAN moved to Sundays at 4pm. This time playing new entries 20 - 11, new releases, and ending up with the full averaged top 10. From 31st Mar 62, the charts were averaged from NME, MELODY MAKER, DISC and RECORD RETAILER. On the 7th Oct 62, David Jacobs, returned to host the show, with the same format as Alan, but a different theme tune, Alan had used "AT THE SIGN OF THE SWINGING CYMBAL" by BRIAN FAHEY. 6th Jan 63, ALAN FREEMAN returned for a second stint. He was replaced by DON MOSS on the 5th Oct 63. The new entries were then referred to as "Chart-starters". DON MOSS used CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS by FRANCIS DAY as the theme for his shows. His producer was TEDDY WARWICK. TOP OF THE POPS started on BBC TV on 1st Jan 64, ALAN FREEMAN returned to PICK OF THE POPS on Sun 5th Jan 1964. DON MOSS was now the holiday stand-in. alan used a new theme from Apr 66, it was QUITE BESIDE THE POINT by the HARRY ROBERTS SOUND. DENYS JONES took over producing POTP in Dec 66. He now added the charts together. From 27th Aug 67, the programme was increased to the 4.30 - 6.00pm slot. Now it featured the top 30, averaged from NME, MELODY MAKER and RECORD RETAILER coz DISC were now using the same chart as MELODY MAKER. On the 1st Oct 67, PICK OF THE POPS became a 2 hour, show 5-7pm, now it played new entries 30-21, new releases and the complete averaged top 20. This was now compiled on the previous Tuesday lunchtime (it had been since 1964). On 16th Feb 69, the show started to use the RECORD RETAILER/MUSIC WEEK chart compiled by the BRITISH MARKET RESEARCH BUREAU. In april 1970, Alan started to use a new theme for the show..a new version of AT THE SIGN OF THE SWINGING CYMBAL by BRASS INCORPORATED. PICK OF THE POPS was axed in Sept 72 (although, it did return, on the Saturday 5th June 1982, on London`s Capital Radio, known as PICK OF THE POPS - TAKE TWO, playing the brand new NME/MRIB London top 15 chart, back to back with a chart from the past). On Radio One, it was replaced on the 1st Oct 1972, by TOM BROWNE`s SOLID GOLD SIXTY 4-7PM. This featured Radio 1 airply 60 - 21, and from 6pm the complete sales top 20. The theme was BROTHER by CCS. TOM BROWNE`s producers were, DAVE PRICE 72 - 74, PETE RITZEMA 75 - 76, and BERNIE ANDREWS from 77 (he produced the chart show, right through to the Spring of 1983). From 24th March 74, the first 2 hours were dropped (PAUL BURNETT now counted down Radio 1`s airplay chart on Sunday mornings) TOM BROWNE continued with the top 20 sales every Sunday at 6pm. Tom quit in March 78, to host a tv show in Denmark. SIMON BATES took over on 26th March 78. On tuesday 9th May Radio 1 started to use a top 40, but only the top 20 was broadcasted on a Sunday. SIMON BATES increased to a top 40 on 11th Nov 78 at 5pm - 7pm. Playing around 18 records in the 40-21 part, from 6pm Radio 2 joined for the complete top 20. From 27th Jan 79, radio 2, no longer took the show. Simon, now played around 16 records between 40-21 and the complete 20 from 5.50pm. On 2nd Sep 79, TONY BLACKBURN took over basically the same format as SIMON but he did not get so many hits in to the 40-21 part, usually around 32 or 33. Tony, dropped the theme (BROTHER by CCS) for a theme entitled FIREPOWER. He used two versions, of this but mainly the one by the HOT FORTIES. On the 10th Jan 82, TOMMY VANCE took over. He started to drop the jingles for chart positions. ANDY PEEBLES was the stand-in presenter. He didn`t have a regular theme, instead mainly used instrumentals of current hits i.e. DOWN UNDER by MEN AT WORK etc. On the 8th Jan 84 SIMON BATES was back..with new jingles. The 30th Sept 84, saw INDEPENDANT RADIO launch the NETWORK CHART with DAVID JENSEN. RICHARD SKINNER was brought in to host Radio 1s top 40. He toyed around trying to play 40 hits in 2 hours for a while, then slip back to only playing around 31. Richard`s theme was ROCK-ALL by MEZZOFORTE, (this was also used by BRUNO BROOKES). Easter 86, RICHARD SKINNER left for CAPITAL RADIO, BRUNO BROOKES was the replacement. On the 4th Oct 87, it was the first time the brand new chart was announced on Sundays (a move to beat DAVID JENSENs ILR input). BRUNO only played about 30 records from the chart though. ILR reacted quickly increasing there chart to play new entries and climbers 75 - 31 in a 3 hour show, and the entire top 30 (Although the first hour, could only be heard on CAPITAL RADIO). From around 91, the NETWORK CHART, increased to a top 40 (broadcasted, on around 80 Independant Radio stations, across the UK). Bruno was replaced by Mark Goodier in Jan 91, playing the complete top 40 at 4.30, In 1992 BRUNO returned from 4-7pm playing records in full! Come Apr 95, MARK GOODIER was back. Until Nov 2002, he left. Various other radio 1 presenters did the show until feb 03, when WES BUTTERS took over. The programme was a mess..playing the best of the top 20 albums, lots of chat...and it hardly played any of the 40-21 part of the chart. Towards the end of MARK GOODIER`s reign on the top 40, he used a re-worked theme, AT THE SIGN OF THE SWINGING CYMBAL, this time by FATBOY SLIM (NORMAN COOK). At the end of 2001, he began to use CRASH by the PROPELLERHEADS (another take on, the SWINGING CYMBAL) as the new theme. 2004 came around, JK and JOEL took over...it was more mess, just like Wes, but even worse. Earlier this year, they did however start playing much more of the chart positions 40 -21, sometimes managing 39 0ut of 40. Oct 14th 2007, more mess..chat (what are we doing?) from FEARNE COTTON and REGGIE YATES. Although the programme on 21st Oct, was slightly better than the previous one! Sept 27th 2009, REGGIE YATES goes it alone, as FEARNE now hosts the mid-morning show on Radio One. By the way if anyone would like to know exactly how the BBC chart was worked out between 57 - 69, and a complete list of number ones, from that period...read on!

Concerning the very first chart...it doesn`t exactly count, as all new entries. As all the singles, in that first top 12, were all released weeks before. At that time, previous before 14/11/52...the sheet music chart, was so very similar, you could hardly tell the difference. I did a thread on that previously, somewhere on a vintage chart page. The only thing about sheet music was, it was all about song titles, not artists!! Al Martino ACTUALLY would have had 12weeks at the top, coz the song hit top of the sheet music chart on 24th Oct 52..the previous number one to AL MARTINO, would have been THE HOMING WALTZ by VERA LYNN, that hit number one on the 22/08/52. New entries in to the first singles chart (top 12) would have been COWPUNCHERS CANTATA - MAX BYGRAVES at 11, and BECAUSE YOU`RE MINE by MARIO LANZA at joint 11. Most of the rest of the chart, would have been fallers, apart from AL MARTINO (stuck at 1), JO STAFFORD (YOU BELONG TO ME, up to 2), NAT KING COLE (SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, stuck at 3), GUY MITCHELL (FEET UP, up to 5), ROSEMARY CLOONEY (HALF AS MUCH, up to 6), and VERA LYNN (FORGET ME NOT, up to 7).

To HIGHLANDER69...You were born on Thursday 20th March 1969..the chart changed on Tuesdays. In those days, Alan Freeman did a rundown at 12.30, on Radio 1. It would have been the chart of Tuesday the 18th March 69...so it was PETER SARSTEDT!

Remember Radio 1, only played 33 out of 40, last week!

Do we need to listen to radio one anyway? We can find all the hits, on various sites etc...so just stay with buzzjack, and watch the artists, on you tube, as they come up here!

The Beatles certainly were top of the LP Chart, but during that period, the sales were falling even for the album..Note: the BBC did not have a separate LP Chart til 69!

Here we are with the Averaged Chart for week beginning Tues 19th Oct 1965 (as featured in Top of the Pops, the same week)... 01 01 TEARS - KEN DODD 02 02 ALMOST THERE - ANDY WILLIAMS 03 03 IF YOU GOTTA GO, GO NOW - MANFRED MANN 04 05 EVE OF DESTRUCTION - BARRY MCGUIRE 05 04 HANG ON SLOOPY - MCCOYS 06 14 EVIL HEARTED YOU/STILL I`M SAD - YARDBIRDS 07 06 MESSAGE UNDERSTOOD - SANDIE SHAW 08 16 ITS GOOD NEWS WEEK - HEDGEHOPPERS ANONYMOUS 09 20 YESTERDAY MAN - CHRIS ANDREWS 10 11 SOME OF YOUR LOVIN - DUSTY SPRINGFIELD 11 22 HERE IT COMES AGAIN - FORTUNES 12 17 IN THE MIDNIGHT HOUR - WILSON PICKETT (no higher) 13 07 MAKE IT EASY ON YOURSELF - WALKER BROTHERS 14 09 BABY DON`T GO - SONNY AND CHER 15 10 IL SILENZIO - NINI ROSSO 16 NE YESTERDAY - MATT MONRO 17 08 LOOK THRU ANY WINDOW - HOLLIES 18 14 WHATCHA GONNA DO ABOUT IT - SMALL FACES 19 12 SATISFACTION - ROLLING STONES 20 13 A WALK IN THE BLACK FOREST - HORST JANKOWSKI 21 NE LOVE IS STRANGE - EVERLY BROTHERS (got to 11) 22 23 ZORBA`S DANCE - MARCELLO MINERBI 23 24 PAPAS GOT A BRAND NEW BAG - JAMES BROWN (no higher) 24 29 I LOVE YOU, YES I DO - MERSEYBEATS (no higher) 25 18 I GOT YOU BABE - SONNY AND CHER 26 19 LIKE A ROLLING STONE - BOB DYLAN 27 NE UNTIL ITS TIME FOR YOU TO GO - FOUR PENNIES (got to 22) 28 25 TAKE A HEART - THE SORROWS 29 21 THATS THE WAY - HONEYCOMBS 30 28 YOU`VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY - THE SILKIE Well, everyone tells us the Beatles, were all over the place in the 60s, this week, they were not in the chart!! Except for the LENNON/MCCARTNEY penned number 30 hit, for the SILKIE and of course MATT MONRO`s cover of YESTERDAY. Easy listening ruled the chart with ANDY WILLIAMS and our very own KEN DODD...If you have ever seen Ken (Live), you will know he does about 3 and a half hours, all in one evening!! Its almost morning when you get home! HEDGEHOPPERS ANONYMOUS produced by one JONATHON KING climbing to number 8...putting in mind a 60s concert, I saw recently. On the bill it stated HEDGEHOPPERS ANONMYMOUS play their greatest hits. Despite only having just one! And in this lot I saw, they weren`t actually any of the original members at all!! It was set up by a concert manager, who picked 4 singers up from the streets!! NINI ROSSO`s instrumental was based on the LAST POST, (the sombre death piece). The SMALL FACES were falling with their first hit, and HORST JANKOWSKI`s instrumental, did not include gateau!! Bubbling Under... 31 THAT MEANS A LOT - PJ PROBY got to 26 32 BUT YOU`RE MINE - SONNY AND CHER got to 17 33 THE CARNIVAL IS OVER - SEEKERS got to 1 34 JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER - HERMANS HERMITS got to 14 35 WHEN I GET HOME - SEARCHERS no higher 35=I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE LOVED - NASHVILLE TEENS no higher 38 SHAME AND SCANDAL IN THE FAMILY - LANCE PERCIVAL got to 34 Careers on the slide for, PJ PROBY (best known for splitting his trousers on stage), THE SEARCHERS and THE NASHVILLE TEENS...LANCE PERCIVAL (a actor/comedian/voiceover man with a comic song based on an almost reggae piece...with words like "You can`t marry that girl, coz that girl is your sister, but your mummy don`t know"!! New Releases... 1 2 3 - LEN BARRY SOMETHING - GEORGIE FAME MY GENERATION - THE WHO YESTERDAY - MARIANNE FAITHFUL YOU`RE THE ONE - PETULA CLARK A LOVERS CONCERT0 - THE TOYS KANSAS CITY STAR - ROGER MILLER HOME OF THE BRAVE - JODY MILLER The GEORGIE FAME track was not the same as the BEATLES/SHIRLEY BASSEY number. MARIANNE FAITHFUL also covered the BEATLES "YESTERDAY"...This song had been offered to BILLY J KRAMER by PAUL MCCARTNEY....but Billy turned it down. A thing he lived to regret, because his career was going pearshaped. JODY MILLER`s new release was well played on pirate radio, but was only a ver small minor hit. Was she related to ROGER?? No, she was not! The top tv in Oct 65... 01 CORONATION ST WEDS 8.4 02 RIVIERA POLICE 8M 03 TAKE YOUR PICK 7.8 04 LOVE STORY 7.7 05 DOUBLE YOUR MONEY 7M 06 CLIFF RICHARD/SHADOWS 6.8 07 EMERGENCY WARD TEN 6.5 THUR 08 BLACK MAIL 09 THE BIG VALLEY 10 CINEMA 6.3 11 RETURN OF STEPTOE 12 UNIVERSITY CHALLENGE 6.1 13 THE WORKER 14 CORONATION ST MON 5.8 15 NEW PALLADIUM SHOW 16 ALL OUR YESTERDAYS 5.7 17 EMERGENCY WARD TEN FRI 18 THE MAN FROM UNCLE 19 FOUR OF HEARTS 5.5 19 WORLD TONIGHT JIMMY TARBUCK was the big host in 65, with the NEW PALLADIUM SHOW...there he was 20 years later doing a similar show elsewhere! RIVIERA POLICE was a cop show, glossy crime on the french riviera, with ANTHONY VALENTINE. it was axed after 13wks..CORONATION STREET was losing a bit here, though coincidence connected in 1965, with 1991...in the Street, ELSIE TANNER was having an affair with a character called wait for it....ROBERT MAXWELL (a shady character, who got killed while driving his jaguar)...Nothing to do with the 1991 incident when the real ROBERT MAXWELL went off his boat!!! CHARLIE DRAKE played the cleaner/come attendant in THE WORKER..and only 2 BBC shows were in the top 20...THE MAN FROM UNCLE, and RETURN OF STEPTOE (STEPTOE AND SON)..CINEMA, was a review of the weeks new fim releases, introduced by MIKE SCOTT..WORLD OF SPORT was ITV`s saturday version of GRANDSTAND in its first year with EAMONN ANDREWS. JACKANORY was doing it for kids tv...TOP OF THE POPS at this point was pulling in 5m viewers a week!! As I was talking about 1991, earlier this week (and I had an email from a certain lady) on the New MRIB Chart (that I post tomorrow) I will also, have a retro top 30 from MRIB from Oct 91, as well as a look at the brand new top 30, and album chart ;)

To get the correct number one on the day you were born, you have to know these things.... Between Feb 69 - Sept 87, the uk radio 1 chart changed on a Tuesday around 12.45pm. The dates books give are week/ending dates i.e. Saturdays mostly. The week-ending Saturday 15th Feb 69 (was actually a chart announced the tuesday before). From Oct 87, the week-ending date 0f 10th Oct 87...the chart would have been announced the Sunday before! Like as previous to Feb 11th 69, Radio 1, used an averaged chart...not in any book!!

So LADIES BRAS are they 46? Or LETHAL BIZLE, maybe?

Have you number 46 and 47 they seem to be missing..me thinks KATIE MELUA and GYM CLASS HEROES?

Yep, thanks for posting Jonny, I will interested to see the sales/download figures this week. Coz the positions between 14 - 23 differ quite a bit from that of mrib...I reckon the sales etc must be very close.

Let`s all e-mail radio one and tell them we want to hear all 40 songs in the chart, not just 33, of `em!! Lets see if they will listen to us (the listeners)...See the thing is, on Monday evenings BFBS Radio 1, play them all in just 2 and a half hours, its easy and a good listen..shame it doesnt go out on a Sunday...coz they are on Sky Digital.

Wes did not ever play the full top 40. The last person who played it in full, was Mark Goodier. The question is do we want a chart countdown or a chat show? American stations have always played the full chart. When I was recently in hospital, in the UK, they played the whole top 50 in 3 hours, and also rundown the 75 - 51, and played a couple of tracks from that. The chart show is about slickness, not stupid rabbit and competitions, its nonsense. If they want to chat, why not have chart show chat at the very end of it? By then anyone with any sense will have switched off. Both radio 1 and independant chart shows are just c**p.

By this series, I take it you mean this series, of re-releases. Well in MRIB, its been like this... 18/08/07 HEARTBREAK HOTEL number 10 18/08/07 SUSPICIOUS MINDS number 11 25/08/07 BLUE SUEDE SHOES number 10 25/08/07 MY BABY LEFT ME number 18 01/09/07 HOUND DOG number 10 08/09/07 TEDDY BEAR number 11 15/09/07 LETS HAVE A PARTY number 6 22/09/07 DON`T number 9 29/09/07 HARD HEADED WOMAN number 9 06/10/07 KING CREOLE number 7 13/10/07 BIG HUNK O` LOVE number 7 20/10/07 WEAR MY RING AROUND YOUR NECK number 7

It wouldn`t be a good idea to go beyond the Top 30, because of the fact that from 31 downwards, airplay plays a big part in the chart. Combining Sales/airplay and downloads just spirals records higher up, that should have left the chart! For instance 'WORRIED ABOUT RAY", and the HOOSIERS is just outside the top 30, this week, and I doubt it will even be sighted in the Radio one chart...Luccio, might play it, though, on the other side!!!

Well on the 27th Oct, I`ll have all the answers, before the snail can bring it to you!!

I have seen pre-orders, (probably won`t mean much) but TAKE THAT have been pre-ordered the most of all...

As promised, the latest MRIB (Media Research Information Bureau) charts, with big thanks to Dave Taylor (davericktaylor@yahoo.co.uk). 10 08 1234 - FEIST 09 06 BEAUTIFUL GIRLS - SEAN KINGSTON 08 NE GOODBYE MR A. - HOOSIERS 07 04 HEY THERE DELILAH - PLAIN WHITE Ts 06 NE BIG HUNK O` LOVE - ELVIS PRESLEY 05 05 A/YO TECHNOLOGY - 50 CENT 04 03 NO U HANG UP - SHAYNE WARD 03 10 VALERIE - RONSON/WINEHOUSE 02 02 LET ME THINK ABOUT IT - IDA CORR/LE GRANDE 01 01 ABOUT YOU NOW - SUGABABES How will all that compare tomorrow? Listen to see how many mistakes Fearne and Reggie make!! Or there is always BFBS Radio 1, on Monday night, for the no-nonsense slick countdown of the entire top 40! (He doesn`t miss any out, and 40 hits, in 2 and a half hours)...