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Vintage Chart Day!!
Here we go with a look at Oct 62...the averaged Chart, compiled from positions from NME, DISC, RECORD RETAILER, and MELODY MAKER. I had a email last week, asking why this averaged chart thing? Well, to all that don`t know, during 56 - 69, there was not an official chart (unlike today). Infact RECORD RETAILER was the least read, and least popular...I noticed Brian`s chart from 67, just now. He uses RR, well Brian mate, In this week in 67, I can reveal that actually on Radio 1, ENGLEBERT HUMPERDINCK actually stayed at number one for another week!!! The BEE GEES had to wait another week, mate :D. At this time in 67, MELODY MAKER was polling the most shops, for sales infact 150+. So, they were probably closer. Anyway the chart w/k ending thurs 12th Oct 1962... The Top 30... 01 01 TELSTAR - TORNADOES 02 04 SHEILA - TOMMY ROE 03 05 LOCO-MOTION - LITTLE EVA 03 02 SHES NOT YOU - ELVIS 05 08 IT MIGHT AS WELL RAIN UNTIL SEPTEMBER - CAROLE KING 06 03 IT`LL BE ME - CLIFF RICHARD 07 09 YOU DON`T KNOW ME - RAY CHARLES 08 06 I REMEMBER YOU - FRANK IFIELD 09 14 WHAT NOW MY LOVE - SHIRLEY BASSEY 10 17 RAMBLIN` ROSE - NAT KING COLE 11 10 DON`T THAT BEAT ALL - ADAM FAITH 12 07 SEALED WITH A KISS - BRYAN HYLAND 13 11 ROSES ARE RED - RONNIE CARROLL 14 12 THINGS - BOBBY DARIN 15 15 IT STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN - BRENDA LEE 16 13 BREAKING UP IS HARD TO DO - NEIL SEDAKA 17 27 VENUS IN BLUE JEANS - MARK WYNTER 18 19 REMINISCING - BUDDY HOLLY 19 23 LONELY - ACKER BILK 20 16 GUITAR TANGO - SHADOWS 21 18 SPEEDY GONZALEZ - PAT BOONE 22 20 MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM THEME - JET HARRIS 23 NE SHERRY - FOUR SEASONS 24 NE LET`S DANCE - CHRIS MONTEZ 25 21 BALLAD OF PALADIN - DUANE EDDY 26 26 SPANISH HARLEM - JIMMY JUSTICE 27 22 WILL I WHAT - MIKE SARNE/BILLIE DAVIES 28 25 SOME PEOPLE - CAROLE DEENE 28 NE DEVIL WOMAN - MARTY ROBBINS 30 NE BLUE WEEKEND - KARL DENVER Instrumentals ruling the chart in 62, with 5 in the top 30, at 1, 19, 20, 22 and 25...Two film titles, SOME PEOPLE and THE MAN WITH GOLDEN ARM too. SPANISH HARLEM was a cover of BEN E. KING`s original american hit. Both, CHRIS MONTEZ and LITTLE EVA return to the charts in 1972, with there hits from this chart. The MIKE SARNE/BILLIE DAVIES hit "WILL I WHAT" was later covered by JUDGE DREAD...the story of a night out with a lady who was slightly hard of hearing. Mike singing "Will you tell me what name is?" BILLIE reply "WILL I WHAT?"...In JUDGE DREAD`s version he asks such things as "will you let me take your drawers off" etc, but this is a family forum!!! Bubbling Under... 31 PICK A BALE OF COTTON - LONNIE DONEGAN got to 13 31=IF A MAN ANSWERS - BOBBY DARIN got to 23 31=SEND ME THE PILLOW THAT YOU DREAM ON - JOHNNY TILLOTSON got to 21 34 YOUR TENDER LOOK - JOE BROWN got to 28 35 BECAUSE OF LOVE - BILLY FURY got to 19 35=CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP - DEL SHANNON got to 31 37 ADIOS AMIGO - JIM REEVES got to 27 38 A FOREVER KIND OF LOVE - BOBBY VEE got to 16 LONNIE DONEGAN coming to the end of chart career by now...JOHNNY TILLOTSON just could not follow up his 1961 charttopper (POETRY IN MOTION), and DEL SHANNON missing the top 30 for the first time. New Releases.... KEEP AWAY FROM OTHER GIRLS - HELEN SHAPIRO EVER SINCE YOU SAID GOODBYE - MARTY WILDE LOVE ME DO - BEATLES LIMBO ROCK - CHUBBY CHECKER WARMED OVER KISSIES - BRYAN HYLAND PRETTY JENNY - JESS CONRAD LOVESICK BLUES/SHE TAUGHT ME TO YODEL - FRANK IFIELD Mostly minor hits here, apart from FRANK IFIELD`S double A-side number one hit. The BEATLES first hit "LOVE ME DO" only got to 24, on the averaged chart...making 17 in RR, 21 in MM, 24 in DISC and 27 in NME. Remember the BEATLES first record pressings on the red Parlophone label, are worth quite a bit of dosh! MARTY WILDE`s career in pop was coming to an end..Marty got married in 62, and reckons thats why his hits dried up, Jealous girls, what!!! Top of the TV in Oct 62... 01 CORONATION ST WEDS 8.4MILLION 02 CORONATION ST MON 8.1 03 ARMCHAIR THEATRE 6.3 04 NO HIDING PLACE 6.1 05 MAIGRET 6.0 05 DOUBLE YOU MONEY 05 EMERGENCY WARD 10 THUR 05 VAL PARNELLS SUNDAY NIGHT 09 TAKE YOUR PICK 5.6 10 EMERGENCY WARD 10 FRI 5.5 11 ZERO ONE 12 DRAMA 62 5.2 13 Z CARS 5.1 14 TELEVISION PLAYHOUSE 15 WINNING WIDOWS 16 HARPERS WEST ONE 17 TAKE A LETTER 18 SPORTSVIEW 5.0 18 BRUCE FORSYTH SHOW 20 MAN OF THE WORLD 4.8 CORONATION STREET ruling the tv, just like 2007!! Early days for that though, with ENA SHARPLES, MINNIE CALDWELL, FLORRIE LINDLEY (Corner shop owner), JACK AND ANNIE WALKER (Rovers Return), ELSIE TANNER, ALBERT TATLOCK, EMILY BISHOP, KEN BARLOW etc...only Ken and Emily still around!! What was different in the Street then, was the fact that 90% of the cast were over 30!! Z CARS, MAIGRET were the police based serie, along with NO HIDING PLACE with RAYMOND FRANCIS and a young KEITH BARON. TAKE A LETTER was the latest quiz/game show (10 vintage chart points if you can tell me the name of the host)...HARPERS WEST ONE, was the continuing story of west London department store. Fictional drama with PLAYHOUSE, ARMCHAIR THEATRE, DRAMA 62 etc The BBC only had the number 5, 11, 13 and 18 top shows. VAL PARNELL brought entertainment on Sundays, with performers diverse as GRACIE FIELDS, and MORECAMBE AND WISE. Murder was the main investigation in order with CRAIG STEVENS in MAN OF THE WORLD (a photographer/journalist turned private eye). Top kids tv, came via BLUE PETER, and ITV`s current GERRY ANDERSON puppet series SUPERCAR.... Thats just about it for now..but DO NOT forget tomorrow afternoon for MRIB`s brand new top 30 Singles chart, plus top 10 albums, from about 2.30 ish...BFN folks!!!
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The Vintage Chart Page
For abc1, and anyone else 1952, before the Record Chart began Lets start with the 1st record chart 14th Nov 52 01 HERE IN MY HEART - AL MARTINO 02 YOU BELONG TO ME - JO STAFFORD 03 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY - NAT KING COLE 04 ISLE OF INNISFREE - BING CROSBY 05 FEET UP - GUY MITCHELL 06 HALF AS MUCH - ROSEMARY CLOONEY 07 HIGH NOON - FRANKIE LAINE 07 FORGET ME NOT - VERA LYNN 08 SUGAR BUSH - DORIS DAY/FRANKIE LAINE 08 BLUE TANGO - RAY MARTIN 09 HOMING WALTZ - VERA LYNN 10 AUF WIEDERSEHEN - VERA LYNN 11 COWPUNCHERS CANTATA - MAX BYGRAVES 11 BECAUSE YOU`RE MINE - MARIO LANZA 12 WALKIN MY BABY BACK HOME - JOHNNY RAY So, we got to check sheet music sales, for the period beyond this.. Al MARTINO entered the chart on 6th Sept 52 at 20, then 18 13 08 03 02 02 01 01 01 So he would have hit the top on 24th Oct 52, so he really had 12 weeks at number one!!! Before HERE IN MY HEART, the HOMING WALTZ topped sheet music sales, that hit the top on 22nd Aug 52, for 9wks Other charttoppers for 52 were thus... 13th June 52 AUF WIEDERSEHEN - VERA LYNN 10WKS 23rd May 52 AROUND THE CORNER - (JO STAFFORD) 3WKS 22nd Mar 52 UNFORGETTABLE - (NAT KING COLE) 10WKS 22nd Feb 52 THERES ALWAYS ROOM AT OUR HOUSE - (GUY MITCHELL) 4WKS 2nd Feb 52 LOVELIEST NIGHT OF THE YEAR - (MARIO LANZA 4WKS 19th Jan 52 LONGING FOR YOU - THERESA BREWER 2WKS 12th Jan 52 LOVELIEST NIGHT OF THE YEAR - (MARIO LANZA or ANNE SHELTON) 9th Nov 51 LONGING FOR YOU - (THERESA BREWER or MARIO LANZA 9WKS I put 2 artists for some titles coz its not totally possible what artist, was selling the most, coz with sheet music its just song titles :)
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The Vintage Chart Page
Well, a big thanks to Rob and Mark. On LONNIE DONEGAN, and the BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS...this was actually a take on us English, because in the first couple, of lines Lonnie, says "this here is the story of the battle of new orleans, faught between them there Yankees, and those English people". Now, does everyone know, that the late Mr Donegan, was Scottish? So, a inhouse joke, came from the man himself! Rather, in the style of one WILLIE CARSON, ex jockey (now racing pundit), always joking, winding us all up! Yep, Willie is Scottish too, folks! I do think that the 50s should be covered more today. Thats where the roots of todays music came from, after all. The purpose of Winton`s radio 2 show should indeed be 50s, 60s, 70s....and I fully believe radio one, should have a retro chart show to play 1980 - 2006, in the style of JIMMY SAVILE`s old progs. Quite frankly Pick of the Pops, Winton, and Philip Swern, should have ended years ago, you don`t need rundowns and all that under-researched c**p. Someone, should tell Dale, that in the 60s and 70s, new releases came out on Fridays, not Mondays!!! Not to impressed though, when people start having a go at singers like Englebert Humperdinck, Val Doonican, Mr O` Conner, Ken Dodd etc...tell you when they do the circuit, of theatre, they entertain a packed house!!! Remember Ken and the Hump, both sold millions of records...Anyone listen to Mike Sweeney, on the b***s that is Gold? He constantly goes on slagging all those people off, don`t no why coz he never plays them anyway!! Mr biased, ego-tistic Sweeney, could well appear on radio 2, with egos like Evans, Ross, Wright etc. It would be ego, all round!!! Talent, before Names, ay Mike and co!!!!
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The Vintage Chart Page
Glad you 2, like the concept. Thought it would be a good idea. In all, I intend to go back as far as 1956, in future as well!! Keep the under 30s on their toes, what! Bsically decided to do this because I have been totally appalled by the BBCs Pick of the Pops with Mr Winton, and indeed the garbage of last week, with Harry and Paul, Humour, was it surposed to be funny? It would have been slightly better if they had used the first proper Radio One, top 30, but they didn`t even do that! On an averaged chart, you get the "proper" chart from the original Pick of the Pops shows...salute the late ALAN FREEMAN properly, I say...
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The Vintage Chart Page
Well on join this fabulous site, I thought wow, what can I do to contribute? With good old Mikey`s latest chart action pages, I suddenly thought, Vintage Charts, and retro from this very week in a year gone by! With 23 years of archive info, behind me, I decided vintage is great! So, I look forward to all your comments, after this the first Retro Vintage. With all the latest hits from yesteryear! The first one back to October 5th 1959, no official chart then..but we do have the averaged chart, based on positions from NME, DISC, RECORD MIRROR, and MELODY MAKER... The top 20 w/k ending 3rd Oct 1959 01 01 ONLY SIXTEEN - CRAIG DOUGLAS 02 03 HERE COMES SUMMER - JERRY KELLER 03 02 LIVING DOLL - CLIFF RICHARD 04 07 TIL I KISSED YA - EVERLY BROTHERS 05 05 MONA LISA - CONWAY TWITTY 06 04 LONELY BOY - PAUL ANKA 07 11 SOMEONE - JOHNNY MATHIS 08 06 CHINA TEA - RUSS CONWAY 09 12 THE THREE BELLS - THE BROWNS 09 25 MACK THE KNIFE - BOBBY DARIN 11 13 JUST A LITTLE TOO MUCH/SWEETER THAN YOU - RICKY NELSON 12 09 40 MILES OF BAD ROAD - DUANE EDDY 13 08 HEART OF A MAN - FRANKIE VAUGHAN 14 19 PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED - BUDDY HOLLY 15 10 LIPSTICK ON YOUR COLLAR - CONNIE FRANCIS 16 21 SEA OF LOVE - MARTY WILDE 17 15 HIGH HOPES - FRANK SINATRA 18 16 BROKEN HEARTED MELODY - SARAH VAUGHAN 19 17 SAL`S GOT A SUGAR LIP - LONNIE DONEGAN 20 14 BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS - LONNIE DONEGAN The 5th week at the top for CRAIG DOUGLAS in 1959, and LONNIE DONEGAN side by side himself. BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS had been all the way to number 2, and was also a hit for GLEN MASON and JOHNNY HORTON, who both took the song to number 20, in Britain. LONNIE DONEGAN`s follow up SAL`S GOT A SUGAR LIP, only got to number 15 though. Was it all over for him? Well no it wasn`t because in 1960, MY OLD MAN`S A DUSTMAN took him to the top for a 3rd time. Despite the big climb for BOBBY DARIN to joint number 9, he did not get to the very top, on the averaged chart, he had to make do with number 2, for 6 weeks! On the Bubble in Oct 1959, outside the top 20 were... 21 PLENTY GOOD LOVIN` - CONNIE FRANCIS got to 16 23 HOLD BACK TOMORROW - MIKI AND GRIFF no higher 24 THE HONEYMOON SONG - MANUEL/MUSIC OF THE MOUNTAINS no higher 25 I`M GONNA GET MARRIED - LLOYD PRICE no higher 27 JUST KEEP IT UP - DEE CLARK no higher 28 MIDNIGHT FLYER - NAT KING COLE - got to 25 29 WALKIN` TALL - FRANKIE VAUGHAN no higher It took DEE CLARK 16 years before his next hit, when RIDE A WILD HORSE went into the top 30, in Oct 75. FRANKIE VAUGHAN (who sadily passed away in March 99), scraped the chart with WALKIN` TALL, that later ADAM FAITH scraped the chart with in 1963. Oct 1959, and the new releases... MORGEN - IVO ROBIC 0LD SHEP - CLINTON FORD TREBLE CHANCE - JOE mr piano HENDERSON RIDDLE OF LOVE - CRAIG DOUGLAS MR BLUE - DAVID MACBETH SUNNY SIDE OF HEAVEN - TENNESSEE ERNIE FORD THIS EARTH OF MINE - DON CORNELL GRANADA - FRANK CORDELL/HIS ORCHESTRA Well, of those new releases, it was just minor hits, and flops. MORGEN, was a bigger hit for DICKIE VALENTINE. OLD SHEP was more associated with one ELVIS PRESLEY, who scored a release in 1960, with it on the STRICTLY ELVIS E.P. TENNESEE ERNIE FORD, was slipping into obscurity, after his 1956, hits. The same for DON CORNELL, who had a number one in 1954, with HOLD MY HAND. FRANK CORDELL, missed with GRANADA (an old piece even then, although covered by the mighty FRANK SINATRA in the 1961 top 20). Here are the top tv shows, for Oct 1959... 01 DOUBLE YOUR MONEY 5.5 million 01 DOTTO 03 TAKE YOUR PICK 5.3 04 CONCENTRATION 5.1 05 PROBATION OFFICER 4.9 05 LIBERAL PARTY BROADCAST 07 WAGON TRAIN 4.8 07 EMERGENCY WARD TEN FRI 07 EMERGENCY WARD TEN WEDS 07 SUNDAY NIGHT AT THE PALLADIUM Quiz shows were the winners in 59. DOUBLE YOUR MONEY with HUGHIE GREEN. DOTTO was a game based on JOIN THE DOTS, the kids thing, introduced by JIMMY HANLEY at this point, SHAW TAYLOR later hosted this one (he of POLICE FIVE fame). TAKE YOUR PICK (later revived by DES O, CONNER) was introduced by MICHAEL MILES. CONCENTRATION was based on the card game (pairs), later to be revived by NICK JACKSON and BOB CAROLGEES (minus SPIT THE DOG). PROBATION OFFICER was a drama series starring JOHN PAUL, and HONOR BLACKMAN. WAGON TRAIN the vintage western series. EMERGENCY WARD 10, was ITVs first twice weekly, soap set in Oxbridge Hospital. SUNDAY AT THE LONDON PALLADIUM was introduced at this point by BRUCE FORSYTH (who had taken over from TOMMY TRINDER in 1958). All those shows were from ITV, the BBC struggled in the tv ratings badly, with JUKE BOX JURY with David Jacobs (the compere of radio`s PICK OF THE POPS, at this point at on Saturdays). It was JUKE BOX JURY that SUSAN STRANKS (later of MAGPIE and PAPERPLAY) first found fame on, as a panelist, judging the week`s new releases. Hope you all enjoyed this look back to 1959, Next week, we head to Oct 1962, for more of the same! Cheers Everyone.