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I tried but 'I shouldn't believe everything I read in the newspaper' http://twitter.com/officialcharts No response when posting that. I actually give up trying to reason with them now as they'll happily believe this no problem: but not this http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/dec/1...-christmas-no-1 I am actually quite speechless. There are simply no words for that level of stupidity. If they even slightly took off the rose tinted bird specs surely they can work out Matt selling ONLY 53K in 3 days is simply not possible!!! Not going to attempt to post any more but boy am I going to look forward to their reactions when the sales are announced on Sunday and not only has Matt trounced them but the sales have struggled to even get to that 98k mark they are 'supposedly on now' :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The delusion continues: "in last few mins official charts tweeted: Hi, as of yesterday Surfin' Bird has sold 44,000 units" to a bird fan and the response: Lee Rose:It's false information, DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE NO. HOPE. FOR.THEM. People like that are beyond help seriously. I'll be waiting on Sunday for them to declare Reggie is lying when the song places at 3. And when we get the sales information showing Matt on 500K ish and Bird lucky to make 100k we will of course be 'making it up' :lol: Same person: "Don't believe it, they are doing this too put us off, I really don't think we've sold that less. It's way up high I reckon" Lee Rose has overtaken Ryan whatshisface as chief deluded Birdbrain. Yes of course it's way up high Lee, of course it is. To think I was told off on another forum for calling them deluded when they're 'only trying to inject some fun' Deluded is actually being kind!

I actually feel sorry for them, they're so incapable of accepting the truth The guy actually posted a link to The Guardian that clearly states: according to the Official Chart Company. Not according to Ryan Water's source or an 'insider', The Official Chart Company. They are also spreading a new lie now to get their hopes up "MAJOR FAIL. Joe had sold more than Matt by this time last year. And 1000s couldn't buy it last year because of the snow." Major fail yourself sonny: Tue: .RATM 83.0k, ..Joe 77.0k Wed: RATM 175.1k, Joe 109.7k ...Thu: .RATM 253.0k, Joe 216.0k ...Fri: ...RATM 306.1k, Joe 297.1k Final: RATM 502.7k, Joe 450.8k But whatever keeps you hoping, you believe that Official chart company figures are fake, that some spreadsheet shows you on 98k and not the reality 44k and and a 200,000 gap to make up :rofl: Never come across so many disbelieving numpties. Gives the ones who just wanted a bit of fun a VERY bad name.

Saying that though Matt didn't sell as many CD's as thought if it's 245K, still its 200K ahead of the Bird and Rihanna 20K ahead of the bird. Number 3 beckons

Definitely know about the site, that's what they've based their 'realistic looking midweeks' on. Except they're not realistic at all. Josh just get yourself another email address from something like gmail and then register a new name on facebook, upload a random picture of something and let them know the error of their ways! :lol:

FAIL I'm almost certain if anyone points that out to them it would be "Shut up meg!" thing is look at them all lapping it up! Too funny love the guy who says they were before the mflow downloads, as far as I know they came out yesterday afternoon so when exactly does he think they were compiled! Has anyone pointed out the glaring obvious flaws? I really hope we get the real data later, how ironic that after days of official chart figures called fake, they are actually believing something that IS 100% fake :rofl: will be well worth a look on Saturday and Sunday I guarantee they will have "insiders" informing them it's "neck and neck" and just a few more will do it :rofl: Did no music week subscribers receive those figures? How very odd! Has nobody called the actual fake figures "fake" yet? Unbelievable, goes to show they will blindly believe if it's good but it's fake if it's bad. Not planning on retracting my they are deluded statement yet :cheer:

They've blatantly said it's 3 because that's what it says here, only not to dampen the spirits of everyone they've made up a few figures so they're still within reach and despite the obvious mistakes and their assumptions that midweeks don't exist, now they've seen something a little favourable they're more than happy to believe that. Somebody with WAY too much time on their hands, blatantly copied the style of the guy who showed them the spreadsheet yesterday. Bless them, their desperation shows no bounds, I can't see what the Cardle figure says on my iPod, what does it say?

I do apologise, it was a reasonable assumption to make based on your post that you had visited the group atleast because offering free downloads to Matt's group was one of the "genius" ideas on there as well as "hiding Matt's CD" you were basically suggesting that it's Matt's saturated coverage that will get him number one but how did Rage manage to overcome it without a single performance last year. It can be done, the level of anti x factor feeling just isn't strong enough this year, I bet even if you add up all the campaigns, still won't be close enough to x factor, many people as I said feel it was job done last year and there's no need to campaign again. You also mentioned earlier about denying other artists, the surfin bird campaign is doing just that and again as pointed out before, nobody is forcing people to buy the x factor they are doing it of choice, it is the campaign groups spamming left right and centre begging people to buy it.

Hilarious stuff, there's enough stuff on there from people gloating about downloading nth number of times and abusing mflow to definitely get the track thrown out, which would be a shame because we couldn't then ej enjoy them saving face with how amazing it is to get to number 3 despite the fact they were slaughtered in their primary aim of reaching Xmas number 1

So how did Rage triumph last year then over Joe McElderry who had all the Tv spots and promotion as well as the x factor itself? Did I miss Killing in The Name of being performed on loose women? So your Argument is rubbish. Face facts the Trashmen campaign has nowhere near the momentum Rage had. Add to that a lot of people who supported Rage have switched allegience on account of: a more favourable song and artist this year they feel they made their point last year and don't feel like repeating they maybe supporting another campaign rather than some naff novelty song are you from the trashmen group, I notice you joined this morning, perhaps you would like to inform them they still lie behind Rihanna and although it is a modestly good achievement to get in the top 3, the group is hardly little with 600 000 members if they got off their backsides they would win but they are now undoubtedly too far behind. People on the facebook group were under the notion matt fans would be grateful for a free download, nope they support the artist therefore buying the single. Not surprised you got banned they aren't stupid at least they know how the chart works which is more than could be said for the bird fans who called the official chart company press release as "fake" deary me.

I'm banned too so I doubt anyone's posted it. Not that Ryan will believe it he has a source don't you know. Shame we don't have sales figures because I'm sure they'll be pretty damning. If someone here really wants to post over there and you've already been banned, you can easily set up a fake facebook profile, just get a fake gmail address, register as anything you want and go make merry.

but but but Spiidey!!!! Ryan had a source confirming they were now on 65k and ahead of Rihanna! You sir are a faker and have made this up! Matt is on no more than 200k and bird is going to storm to victory on mflow!!! :rofl: :rofl: if any of you bird fans are here: UNLUCKY, not even a load of free downloads could get you above Rihanna. Excuse me while I recover, I'm laughing too hard. Your members are not buying it in anywhere near the numbers claimed! You need to harrassing them some more :cheer:

Oh but they are they're going to storm to victory in the latter stages because apparently Rage were behind all week so they're in a similar position (except they're in joe's position playing catch up and on just slightly less sales. A few buzzjackers went to the group and kindly pointed out they were well over 100k behind matt and would be lucky to even topple Rihanna and they didn't take the news too well. In their minds midweeks don't exist and there will be no more sales update until Sunday now which may happen if we don't get sales today but I'm hoping we do! Despite not believing in midweeks one of them had a "source" telling them matt had stalled at 200k sales and they were now on 65k ahead of Rhi. Meaning matt sold less than 40k. When his cd came out, less than he sold Tuesday. Erm yeah that makes sense. So yeah that's about it!

i cannot prove. . But if we slow down we will fall back into third. . Still got alot to do. . No one will be able to prove anything till sunday now. Except for this forum and Music Week subscribers! So anyone who posts tomorrow's updates over there will be p***ing in the wind. They won't believe you but I hope somebody does if Matt is anywhere close to 300K ^_^

I just saw that too, suddenly Ryan whatshisface has got a 'reliable source' despite being the high profile clueless baffoon telling anyone who would listen that the info posted by the likes of me you Josh, Matt and others was 'fake' Yet suddenly he has a source LOL Re, this mflow, a couple of people have started to scaremonger that the official charts company are going to investigate. Probably not true but they could have a case http://blog.mflow.com/1-free-credit-to-spe...stmas-number-1/ Any song you want? Christmas number 1? And yet the red hot favourite is NOT on offer? Hmm dodgy at the very least me thinks. Mflow's Twitter says up until 6pm they've had 4k worth of mflow downloads and more would have been downloaded tonight so perhaps they might get closer to Rihanna than I thought they'd be tomorrow

I think it does actually, they are a new industry recognised website set up this year, technically I don't think they are doing anything wrong with this promotion http://blog.mflow.com/1-free-credit-to-spe...stmas-number-1/ They seem to be subtly promoting the Bird song but as it's an offer for any song, they're not really breaking rules are they? Don't know enough about it myself but it sounds similar to those nokia codes the rage fans used and they counted :unsure: Perhaps somebody should let the Matt fans know, fight fire with fire :naughty:

Well they're pretty adamant that all downloads made using 'the mflow trick' are going to count so we should all prepare to see Surfin Bird leap from 35k to 300k tomorrow the way they are going on :blink:

This mflow thing they're banging on about - what do you guys think? They say it's legit but people say they're using a code for like 10 downloads? Well done all who are soldiering on in there, we are all megs of course, can't wait for tomorrow's update, pray it's one with sales, it potentially could be a killer, not that they will listen of course, if they can't accept the official chart company or respond to music week with 'who the hell are they' they aren't going to listen to us lot on a forum that's been the home of midweeks sales information for YEARS :lol:

This is actually killing me now response to the Official Chart Company release: "That's just propaganda" ROFLMAO!! OH. DEAR.

That 35K is just for Sunday guys how could we be such braindead idiots?! :lol: :lol: :lol: This is actually hilarious entertainment! Never seen such a bunch of deluded fools.

ha Matt and Josh I applaud you. They're trying to get you banned as spam for reporting the truth. They honestly don't deserve to be number 1, their stupidity is absolutely astounding really :lol: Matt are you that those CDs aren't just disappearing because of the MASSIVE SCARY CAMPAIGN by the Birdbrains to hide the CD's because it's not like the X Factor single will be selling like hotcakes will they?! :D REALLY hope we get mids sales tomorrow that are so damning, Joe added over 100k didn't he between Wednesday and Thursday update so I'm sure Matt can match if not exceed that, putting him on about 260k and Trash will be lucky to get 50k. Somebody has to promise to take them over, they won't believe you of course, midweeks don't exist. I can see them on Sunday night just before the chart is announced, when the rest of the world knows Matt is number 1 by a country mile, going 'WE CAN STILL DO IT' ^_^ Bird is definitely not the word.

ooh Josh they don't like you posting them figures! :lol: If we get sales tomorrow, I hope you guys are going to very kindly inform them :wub: They just cannot believe that mere mortals like us can have access to sales figures so obviously we're making them up just to spite them. Seriously though, if they only added 10K since yesterday than surely the vast majority of that group aren't buying or some of the more outrageous multi downloading has been chalked off

Haha guys they can't take any form of fact, I told them very kindly earlier that the midweek sales update revealed they were still behind Rihanna and ergo they had no chance of beating Matt and they told me: 1. I was lying because the midweeks sales information doesn't come out until radio 1 announce it 2. There was 'no way I could have access to those figures' 3. I was something too vile to post. 4.There was categorically no way they were still behind Rihanna, they were closing in on number 1 5. And I was a meg 6. There won't be any figures tomorrow because midweeks are only on a Wednesday, so anyone who goes to them with midweek information tomorrow, will get it in the neck (do it! Especially if the figures are damning!) :cheer: Thye just chuck out insults at anyone who dares to challenge them with the hard facts, there was even a response to a quote from Martin Talbot (you know the DIRECTOR of the Official Chart Company) saying how Matt was way out in front and Rihanna was it's closest challenger along the lines of "What the hell does he know?!" :lol: SO yes they are complete and utter morons really, who cannot listen to reason. Their favourite thing to justify their poor position is 'Rage were behind until Thursday' Erm I'm pretty sure they weren't :teresa:

I don't really understand it but apparently it' works like a HMV credit vouchers, you get a voucher code to redeem or something. I can't imagine it counting but the guy who is in charge of mflow seems to think they're legit so who knows

http://www.theofficialcharts.com/ Five times more than a facebook group with 630,000 likes. Surely some mistake?! :lol: People do get swept up with figures, a 'like' is not a sale. Nobody's buying it anymore anyway, they're all relying on 'mflow' some voucher scheme that gives tracks for free? Good luck to them, they'll need it to compete with Rihanna's pop bars.