Everything posted by bobiloko
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MTV Europe Euro Top 20 2012 / MTV Italy Euro Top 20 2012
Who knows? "Danza Kuduro" did enter European Top 20 in the end, even though it had a very short chart run (2-5)... I'd like to see "Geronimo" by Aura Dione debut - it's unlikely but "I Will Love You Monday" did chart in 2010... By the way, I forgot to note something earlier. Are they playing some live performance of "Set Fire To The Rain" by Adele as a "music video" on MTV Europe? If not, this would make it the second song to ever enter MTV European Top 20 without having any "music video"... The first one, interestingly, was also by Adele - "Turning Tables"!
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MTV Europe Euro Top 20 2012 / MTV Italy Euro Top 20 2012
Finally! This time the Top 20 they posted on the MTV Europe website is the same as the Top 10 they broadcast on TV! But what about the previous 2 editions? What should we consider official - the editions they posted on the site or the ones they broadcast on TV? I'd say the latter ones are more important... but, unfortunately, they're just Top 10's... It's surprising to see "Party Rock Anthem" by LMFAO in the chart again... but not that shocking after the reappearance of "Rolling In The Deep" by Adele! And I'm glad that "New Age" by Marlon Roudette has now reached a higher peak position than "Riding Home" (which inexplicably peaked at number 5)...
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MTV Europe Euro Top 20 2012 / MTV Italy Euro Top 20 2012
Yes, something is very wrong. Just for comparison - here is the Top 10 they broadcast on Tuesday, January 10: 1 Rihanna & Calvin Harris - We Found Love 2 Adele - Someone Like You 3 LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It 4 Flo Rida - Good Feeling 5 Maroon 5 & Christina Aguilera - Moves Like Jagger 6 David Guetta & Usher - Without You 7 Coldplay - Paradise 8 Avicii - Levels 9 Adele - Rolling In The Deep 10 Rihanna - You Da One
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MTV Europe Euro Top 20 2012 / MTV Italy Euro Top 20 2012
It's great that they're now broadcasting the chart at 12:00 CET as well. The big problem is that on MTV Europe's website they have posted another Top 20! Is that supposed to be the edition previous to or following the Top 10 they broadcast on Tuesday? Who should we contact in order to clarify the situation and, hopefully, give us positions 11-20 from this edition?
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Don't worry, Hitstastic, I'm following your chart - in fact, each week I'm checking how similar it is to MTV European Top 20! Jamse, I agree with almost everything you have written - in fact, I was thinking previously about writing what needs to be improved about the chart and it's very similar to your demands. I'll comment on each one of them: 1-well, I agree to a certain extent that the chart runs should be more "sensible" but they shouldn't be boring and predictable. While the yo-yoing of "Party Rock Anthem" between number 2 and number 13 was a bit too much, I love it when you can never be sure at what position a song is going to be next week. 1998 was the craziest from the "old" era in this regard and 2011 was certainly crazier. I think the right amount of craziness is somewhere between 1998 and 2011. 2-yes, you have said it quite well - the chart shouldn't look like it was made by different people each week. While I want unpredictability, there should also be a continuity from week to week. 3-I agree completely - ALL of the biggest hits across Europe should appear in European Top 20; it's a nice variety when less successful songs enter the chart as well but the should stay at lower positions. 4-again, I'm 100% with you - the chart shouldn't be based on any other chart. It seems to me that we have very similar opinions... It's just that you have bigger problems with the inconsistency. While I disapprove of all the strange occasions during the year that you mentioned, if you don't take them into consideration, I think 2011 was fantastic!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Jamse, I prefer to review MTV European Top 20 year by year. I started watching the chart in 2000 so of course I loved the chart then. I loved it in 2001 as well (although I probably felt it wasn't quite as good as in 2000)... When I found Markus Tolksdorf's archive dating back to 1991, I realized the chart had been even more interesting before - there had been weeks with more than three new entries, re-entries... I was so sad I had missed those wonderful times! 1998 was an absolutely crazy year with some completely unpredictable movements and many, many entries... 1993 was another dynamic and very interesting year, also 1995, 1999... 1992 felt somewhat strange to me, 1994 was OK and 1996 and 1997 seemed to be less interesting than the other years, but the 90's as a whole looked like a great time for European Top 20! I just hoped someday I would experience something as exciting as 1998... Since 2002 I noticed that the chart was getting slower and slower... and very predictable. There were just 8 number ones in 2002... The total of new entries in each year was much lower than in the 90's... 2003-2004 was the worst period for the chart, I think. In 2003, the highest debut for the whole year was at number 12! There were just 5 reclimbs during the whole year and each song was guaranteed at least 7 weeks in the chart and a peak position of at least number 14! That predictability was torturing me... Not to mention that there were weeks without any new entries! In 2005 things started to get better somehow, but not by too much. 2006 was similar to 2005... but at least there was a re-entry in the chart - something that hadn't happened since 1999! ...And then came the bliss. 2007 was everything I had wished for - weeks with many new entries, re-entries, big movements, songs entering the chart if they were doing well across Europe in spite of not being released in the UK... The best year of the 2000's by far and the only one to equal the greatness of the 90's. 2008 was good but nowhere near the previous year... 2009 didn't start well... and then the way European Top 20 was made changed drastically. The new European Top 20 was basically a copy of the Eurochart. On the one hand, at least the songs that were doing well in Europe were doing well in European Top 20 as well. But I wanted MTV Europe to have an original chart, not a copy of another chart. Also, I disagree with the big influence the UK, French and German singles chart have on the Eurochart. There were many weeks in 2009 when songs that were doing well only in the UK were debuting in the Top 10 of European Top 20... As a whole, I wasn't happy with the chart but I thought things could improve. 2010 was better. Not all UK-only hits made it to European Top 20 and there were weeks when the chart didn't copy the Eurochart... And then at the end of 2010 the Eurochart stopped. So European Top 20 couldn't copy it anymore. Which meant that in 2011 MTV Europe had an original chart again! Well, with several exceptions that I have mentioned before... But for the most part, for me 2011 resembled the greatness of the 90's (especially 1998)! I think I can say in my opinion it was better than any other year of the 21st century apart from 2007. Hitstastic, European Top 20 has never been completely accurate - there have been huge hits in Europe that haven't charted here at all while some songs had great success in European Top 20 without doing well anywhere in Europe... I think the chart was most inaccurate in the middle of the 2000's and the beginning of 2009 - for example, "She Wants To Move" by N*E*R*D* reached number 2, "Walk Idiot Walk" by The Hives - number 3...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
I don't think it's that strange that "All I Want For Christmas Is You" left the chart after a single week... After all, Mariah Carey's original also spent a single week in European Top 20 in 1994 (but it debuted a little lower - at number 6)... Such is the fate of Christmas songs, it seems! I still count MTV European Top 20's editions as coming on Saturday - which means that for me the next edition of the chart would actually be the last one of 2011 - but even so far 2011 has been a record-breaking year! According to Markus Tolksdorf's site (http://ki.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~topsi/mtvtop20.html), there have been 152 different songs in the chart in 2011 - a record beating even the seemingly invincible total of 150 from 1998... Well, the chart in 2011 was really, really crazy. A couple of editions were copies of other charts (including a copy of the Billboard chart?!), there were weeks with many new entries and re-entries... And "All I Want For Christmas Is You" is not the only song to go out of the chart straight from the top - let's not forget how once both the songs at number 1 and number 2 ("Give Me Everything" and "Party Rock Anthem") went out... only to re-enter in the Top 3 again the following week! All of this madness was too much even for me a couple of times... But during most of the year I really enjoyed the unpredictability - and, in fact, at times I felt European Top 20 had never been better! Let's hope the chart becomes even more amazing in 2012!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Just a note, tsetsi - the song at number 20 is "The One That Got Away" by Katy Perry.
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Well, I can see why they would put this version of "All I Want For Christmas Is You" in the chart and not the original. On the one hand, they probably wanted to finally acknowledge that the song is doing well in Europe every year at this time. On the other hand, it probably made no sense to them to allow such an old re-entry in the chart... So they decided to let in a new version including an artist who has become popular recently... Still, even Mariah Carey's original would have been a shocking chart-topper. However, this duet with Justin Bieber has to be the most absurd number 1 ever in the history of European Top 20! I think it beats for absurdity even "Let It Rock" by Kevin Rudolf and Lil' Wayne!...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Now this is remarkable! "Riding Home" by Marlon Roudette becomes replaced in the chart by his PREVIOUS single "New Age"! Can anyone think of another occasion when a single by an artist has appeared in European Top 20 before an earlier single by that artist?
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MTV European Top 20 2011
As far as I know, "Turning Tables" by Adele doesn't have an official video. When "Someone Like You" first appeared in European Top 20, they played a live performance of it. Are they playing a live performance of "Turning Tables" on MTV nowadays?
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MTV European Top 20 2011
A question to everyone who watched European Top 20 in late 1999: which version of "All 'N My Grill" by Missy Elliott did they play - with or without MC Solaar?
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Two consecutive weeks with a new entry straight at number 2... Nowadays it seems easier to debut in the Top 10 than on a position between number 11 and number 20! Katy Perry joins the not so long list of occasions where six singles from one album have appeared in European Top 20 - "The One That Got Away", of course, being the 6th. The previous five all reached the Top 3 so this newest single has some work to do! And what to say about Rihanna... Since 2005 she has scored a total of THIRTEEN number ones in European Top 20!!!!!! That makes more than two chart-toppers per year... Here is the full list: "Pon De Replay", "S.O.S.", "Unfaithful", "Umbrella", "Shut Up And Drive", "Don't Stop The Music", "Take A Bow", "Disturbia", "Russian Roulette", "Love The Way You Lie", "Only Girl In The World", "What's My Name?" and "We Found Love"!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Well, we should take into consideration that the last edition of the chart was two weeks ago but still - "We Found Love" is only the sixth song to debut straight at number 1 in MTV European Top 20. The first two cases happened in the "classic" period of the chart - "Back For Good" by Take That in 1995 and "Candle In The Wind '97" by Elton John in 1997. The other three cases happened in the new period of the chart - "Bodies" by Robbie Williams in 2009; "Alors On Danse" by Stromae and "Satellite" by Lena both in 2010.
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MTV European Top 20 2011
This is just incredible! Back in 1995, "Self Esteem" by Offspring had to wait until its 16th week in the chart in order to reach number 1! That was a record for MTV European Top 20... until now! However, "Someone Like You" by Adele has taken even longer to go to the top - this is its 18th week in the chart!!! Add to this the fact that the song has re-entered the chart four times... "Someone Like You" debuted in European Top 20 at the beginning of March. Now, almost EIGHT months later, it has finally become a number 1! Here is its amazing chart run: 10-4-9-18-8-19-THREE WEEKS OUT-16-THREE WEEKS OUT-17-17-16-FIVE WEEKS OUT-12-FIVE WEEKS OUT-6-3-6-3-3-4-1 What a journey indeed!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
By spending a 6th week at number 1, "Moves Like Jagger" actually becomes Christina Aguilera's longest staying chart-topper in European Top 20, beating the 5-week reign of "Genie In A Bottle"!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
tsetsi, "I Won't Let You Go" by James Morrison is a new entry, not a re-entry. This is his third single in the chart after "You Give Me Something" and the number 1 duet with Nelly Furtado "Broken Strings". Dappy's new entry isn't the first song in European Top 20 titled "No Regrets" - Robbie Williams' song sharing the same title debuted at the beginning of 1999. I'm really happy to see a song by a Swiss DJ and a Russian rapper that hasn't charted in the UK - however, "Welcome To St. Tropez" was a big hit in other European countries and it's wonderful when such songs appear in this chart! Just like I expected, Sean Paul scores his fourth Top 3 hit! By staying at the top for a 5th week, "Moves Like Jagger" becomes only the second song in 2011 to spend more than 4 weeks at number 1. Still, it has some more work to do to equal the 8 weeks at the top of "On The Floor" by Jennifer Lopez and Pitbull! But the BIGGEST NEWS this week is actually at the very bottom of the chart - Tony Bennett's debut makes him the oldest artist to ever appear in MTV European Top 20! Tony is 85 years old - I wonder whether this record can ever be broken?!...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Well, what I like about European Top 20 this year is that even when another chart is imitated for a single week (the Billboard Hot 100, djcharly's Euro Airplay Top 100 last week), the following week the chart is original - this week's edition doesn't copy another chart - BUT it still tries to look like a continuation of the previous week's copied edition! Sean Paul hasn't been in MTV European Top 20 for more than five years and a half! And while he appeared on Blu Cantrell's number 2 hit "Breathe" and Beyoncé Knowles' number 3 hit "Baby Boy", "Got 2 Luv U" is only his second single in the chart as a main artist. Not that he should feel too sad - the previous one, "We Be Burnin'", reached number 2 in late 2005! So three Top 3 hits so far - can "Got 2 Luv U" become the fourth? And I was sure "Papi" by Jennifer Lopez would debut sooner or later... As it turns out, quite soon!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
FINALLY! I really didn't believe "Danza Kuduro" would ever enter European Top 20, although a glimmer of hope always remained... As I have been expecting for a long time, "Mr. Saxobeat" by Alexandra Stan re-enters the chart for a fourth time, making this its fifth separate run in the chart - an achievement which would have been a record if not for the fact that "Someone Like You" by Adele did the same two weeks ago! By the way, Hitstastic, "This Is The Life" by Amy Macdonald actually never charted in MTV European Top 20... And now - something remarkable. For years my friend djcharly (Charles Pons) has been making Euro Airplay Top 100 - a combined chart of the airplay charts in the different European countries. Later he also started making Euro Singles Top 100 - a combination of the airplay charts and the download charts in the different European countries. Well, just compare the latest edition of European Top 20 with this edition of Euro Airplay Top 100: http://www.charly1300.com/eurosingles/eurosingles199.htm I think it's a great recognition that the biggest music TV channel in Europe is taking inspiration by djcharly's chart!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
tsetsi, are you sure that "Cheers" is Rihanna's song that re-enters at number 11? Because according to MTV Europe's website it's "Only Girl In The World"...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Here are all the number ones in 1998: Hanson - I Will Come To You 1 Spice Girls - Too Much 3 Natalie Imbruglia - Torn 5 Madonna - Frozen 7 Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On 4 Madonna - Ray Of Light 1 Savage Garden - Truly, Madly, Deeply 4 Pras Michel, ODB & Mya - Ghetto Supastar 4 Brandy & Monica - The Boy Is Mine 2 Spice Girls - Viva Forever 1 Des'ree - Life 1 Spice Girls - Viva Forever 1 (2) Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing 1 Boyzone - No Matter What 1 Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing 1 (2) Boyzone - No Matter What 1 (2) Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing 1 (3) Boyzone - No Matter What 1 (3) Faithless - God Is A DJ 1 Boyzone - No Matter What 1 (4) Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop 1 George Michael - Outside 1 Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop 1 (2) George Michael - Outside 1 (2) Cher - Believe 1 George Michael - Outside 1 (3) Cher - Believe 2 (3) From the first week at the top of "Viva Forever" to the second week at the top of "Believe" - 18 weeks in a row with a new number 1! And while I agree that sometimes it's nice to have some songs spend (many) consecutive weeks at the top, I do love it when I never know which song is going to be number 1 next week! I adored it when last year Lady GaGa's "Telephone" and Stromae's "Alors On Danse" kept replacing each other at the top for weeks and weeks...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Wow, Hitstastic, how did you guess that? And "Someone Like You" by Adele breaks a record - it re-enters European Top 20 for the FOURTH time, making it the first song ever to have FIVE SEPARATE CHART RUNS in the chart! It actually replaces "Rolling In The Deep", which is finally out after 32 weeks in the chart - yet another record, this one - for longest stayer ever! "Give Me Everything" scores a fourth week at the top... By the way, there is something remarkable going on in MTV European Top 20 - now there has been a new number 1 for 9 weeks in a row (note that I don't mean 9 different songs - just that each week the previous chart-topper has been dethroned)! Is this a record, too? Not at all - it's just halfway! In 1998 there was a new number 1 for 18 weeks in a row! Yes, those were crazy times as well!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
First, let me express my unhappiness with the fact that MTV Europe have started broadcasting the chart even later than before - at 24:00 CET on Tuesdays... It seems like they don't want many people to be able to watch it! However, this week's edition is great! Nice movements, the most undeserving songs are out... "Moves Like Jagger" becomes Maroon 5's second number 1 in European Top 20 after "She Will Be Loved" topped the chart in late 2004. This is also Christina Aguilera's 6th number 1 after "Genie In A Bottle", "Nobody Wants To Be Lonely", "Lady Marmalade", "Ain't No Other Man" and "Hurt". I'm really disappointed that "Loca People" by Sak Noel enters the chart while "Danza Kuduro" is nowhere to be seen... Rihanna achieves something remarkable. It happens very rarely for an artist to have six singles from one album in MTV European Top 20... yet "Cheers" debuts this week, following "Only Girl In The World", "What's My Name?", "S & M", "California King Bed" and "Man Down"! And Adele continues to improve the record for longest stayer ever as "Rolling In The Deep" spends a 32nd week in the chart!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
And a record is broken this week! "Rolling In The Deep" by Adele becomes the longest stayer in European Top 20, spending a 31st week in the chart! The previous joint record-holders with 30 weeks were "Poker Face" by Lady GaGa and "TiK ToK" by Ke$ha. What "E.T." by Katy Perry and Kanye West is doing is also impressive! This week it scores a third week at number 1... but just how big the gaps between its three appearances at the top have been! After its first week at number 1, it took 9 more weeks to return to the top... and now it's back up there again, 10 weeks later! This week the chart is quite nice - there are some big movements, the majority of the undeserving songs are on their way out... It's a pity that there is only one new entry but it's also remarkable - this is the first time Red Hot Chili Peppers have appeared in European Top 20 since 2007's "Hump De Bump"! Very good!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
OK, I'll tell you what I think - back in the 80's the chart "European Top 20" started... on MTV Europe. Later there have been other versions of "European Top 20" - in addition to the current MTV Greece and MTV Italy ones, there was MTV Germany's version and I think MTV Romania had another version, too... After the last "real" edition on April 11, 2009 MTV Europe started broadcasting basically a copy of the Eurochart so we thought the successor of the "real" European Top 20 was the version on MTV Latvia and MTV Estonia... But how did that turn out? The "Baltic" version of the chart became as boring and static as MTV Italy's and MTV Greece's nowadays and it finally ended... So for me there is only one European Top 20 - the one broadcast on MTV Europe. No matter how different the chart can be every week, it has been broadcast on MTV Europe since the 80's and I can only be glad that it's continuing. My biggest fear is that the chart would end. So I'll accept everything just to see it survive - even if there are 20 DIFFERENT SONGS in it each week! After all, the chart may have looked different at different times during the ages but it is what it is - the chart that MTV Europe has been broadcasting for more than two decades!