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MTV European Top 20 2011
FINALLY! I really didn't believe "Danza Kuduro" would ever enter European Top 20, although a glimmer of hope always remained... As I have been expecting for a long time, "Mr. Saxobeat" by Alexandra Stan re-enters the chart for a fourth time, making this its fifth separate run in the chart - an achievement which would have been a record if not for the fact that "Someone Like You" by Adele did the same two weeks ago! By the way, Hitstastic, "This Is The Life" by Amy Macdonald actually never charted in MTV European Top 20... And now - something remarkable. For years my friend djcharly (Charles Pons) has been making Euro Airplay Top 100 - a combined chart of the airplay charts in the different European countries. Later he also started making Euro Singles Top 100 - a combination of the airplay charts and the download charts in the different European countries. Well, just compare the latest edition of European Top 20 with this edition of Euro Airplay Top 100: http://www.charly1300.com/eurosingles/eurosingles199.htm I think it's a great recognition that the biggest music TV channel in Europe is taking inspiration by djcharly's chart!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
tsetsi, are you sure that "Cheers" is Rihanna's song that re-enters at number 11? Because according to MTV Europe's website it's "Only Girl In The World"...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Here are all the number ones in 1998: Hanson - I Will Come To You 1 Spice Girls - Too Much 3 Natalie Imbruglia - Torn 5 Madonna - Frozen 7 Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On 4 Madonna - Ray Of Light 1 Savage Garden - Truly, Madly, Deeply 4 Pras Michel, ODB & Mya - Ghetto Supastar 4 Brandy & Monica - The Boy Is Mine 2 Spice Girls - Viva Forever 1 Des'ree - Life 1 Spice Girls - Viva Forever 1 (2) Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing 1 Boyzone - No Matter What 1 Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing 1 (2) Boyzone - No Matter What 1 (2) Aerosmith - I Don't Want To Miss A Thing 1 (3) Boyzone - No Matter What 1 (3) Faithless - God Is A DJ 1 Boyzone - No Matter What 1 (4) Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop 1 George Michael - Outside 1 Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop 1 (2) George Michael - Outside 1 (2) Cher - Believe 1 George Michael - Outside 1 (3) Cher - Believe 2 (3) From the first week at the top of "Viva Forever" to the second week at the top of "Believe" - 18 weeks in a row with a new number 1! And while I agree that sometimes it's nice to have some songs spend (many) consecutive weeks at the top, I do love it when I never know which song is going to be number 1 next week! I adored it when last year Lady GaGa's "Telephone" and Stromae's "Alors On Danse" kept replacing each other at the top for weeks and weeks...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Wow, Hitstastic, how did you guess that? And "Someone Like You" by Adele breaks a record - it re-enters European Top 20 for the FOURTH time, making it the first song ever to have FIVE SEPARATE CHART RUNS in the chart! It actually replaces "Rolling In The Deep", which is finally out after 32 weeks in the chart - yet another record, this one - for longest stayer ever! "Give Me Everything" scores a fourth week at the top... By the way, there is something remarkable going on in MTV European Top 20 - now there has been a new number 1 for 9 weeks in a row (note that I don't mean 9 different songs - just that each week the previous chart-topper has been dethroned)! Is this a record, too? Not at all - it's just halfway! In 1998 there was a new number 1 for 18 weeks in a row! Yes, those were crazy times as well!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
First, let me express my unhappiness with the fact that MTV Europe have started broadcasting the chart even later than before - at 24:00 CET on Tuesdays... It seems like they don't want many people to be able to watch it! However, this week's edition is great! Nice movements, the most undeserving songs are out... "Moves Like Jagger" becomes Maroon 5's second number 1 in European Top 20 after "She Will Be Loved" topped the chart in late 2004. This is also Christina Aguilera's 6th number 1 after "Genie In A Bottle", "Nobody Wants To Be Lonely", "Lady Marmalade", "Ain't No Other Man" and "Hurt". I'm really disappointed that "Loca People" by Sak Noel enters the chart while "Danza Kuduro" is nowhere to be seen... Rihanna achieves something remarkable. It happens very rarely for an artist to have six singles from one album in MTV European Top 20... yet "Cheers" debuts this week, following "Only Girl In The World", "What's My Name?", "S & M", "California King Bed" and "Man Down"! And Adele continues to improve the record for longest stayer ever as "Rolling In The Deep" spends a 32nd week in the chart!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
And a record is broken this week! "Rolling In The Deep" by Adele becomes the longest stayer in European Top 20, spending a 31st week in the chart! The previous joint record-holders with 30 weeks were "Poker Face" by Lady GaGa and "TiK ToK" by Ke$ha. What "E.T." by Katy Perry and Kanye West is doing is also impressive! This week it scores a third week at number 1... but just how big the gaps between its three appearances at the top have been! After its first week at number 1, it took 9 more weeks to return to the top... and now it's back up there again, 10 weeks later! This week the chart is quite nice - there are some big movements, the majority of the undeserving songs are on their way out... It's a pity that there is only one new entry but it's also remarkable - this is the first time Red Hot Chili Peppers have appeared in European Top 20 since 2007's "Hump De Bump"! Very good!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
OK, I'll tell you what I think - back in the 80's the chart "European Top 20" started... on MTV Europe. Later there have been other versions of "European Top 20" - in addition to the current MTV Greece and MTV Italy ones, there was MTV Germany's version and I think MTV Romania had another version, too... After the last "real" edition on April 11, 2009 MTV Europe started broadcasting basically a copy of the Eurochart so we thought the successor of the "real" European Top 20 was the version on MTV Latvia and MTV Estonia... But how did that turn out? The "Baltic" version of the chart became as boring and static as MTV Italy's and MTV Greece's nowadays and it finally ended... So for me there is only one European Top 20 - the one broadcast on MTV Europe. No matter how different the chart can be every week, it has been broadcast on MTV Europe since the 80's and I can only be glad that it's continuing. My biggest fear is that the chart would end. So I'll accept everything just to see it survive - even if there are 20 DIFFERENT SONGS in it each week! After all, the chart may have looked different at different times during the ages but it is what it is - the chart that MTV Europe has been broadcasting for more than two decades!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
I think it's interesting that the two new entries in the "official" European Top 20 are a song about Mick Jagger and a song BY Mick Jagger and his super band SuperHeavy... tsetsi, you have done a nice chart! However, I'm afraid that, since the Italian and the Greek European Top 20's are so static, this 3-chart combination wouldn't have much movement, either... Jamse, by "taken over this chart" do you mean that you have been making your own version of European Top 20 since 2009? I'd like to look at your version as well!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
I'll be very happy if one of us starts making the chart. However, while the whole Top 3 leaving might have been a little extreme, I really like European Top 20 nowadays. You never know what's going to happen next week! For me this is definitely better than 2009-2010 when the chart was a copy of the Eurochart or 2003-2004 when nothing was happening... I sincerely hoped "Party Rock Anthem" or "Give Me Everything" would have re-entered at number 2 as no song has done that before... And "The Edge Of Glory" by Lady GaGa breaks the record for the biggest fall ever from the top, going 1-15! The previous record was held by "About You Now" by Sugababes, which went 1-10 at the end of 2007...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
It's funny to compare the top and the bottom half of the chart... It sees obvious that first a Top 10 is made so it can be broadcast on MTV Europe and then positions 11-20 are just added somehow so the chart can still be a Top 20 (not that I'm complaining - I hope it never becomes an official Top 10)... Yes, I did believe "California King Bed" would re-enter someday and even the fact that "Man Down" reached the Top 3 didn't make me stop believing that... I know I'm saying this all the time but it must be mentioned - "Someone Like You" is yet another song that re-enters the chart for the third time, thus having a fourth separate chart run - the othes who achieved this were "Who's That Chick?", "Price Tag", "Mr. Saxobeat" (I'm still expecting it to appear again in the chart) and "Sweat". Last week marked the biggest jump to number 2 - from number 15, achieved by "Party Rock Anthem" by LMFAO (who made the exact same movement two weeks earlier)... Well, this record is immediately beaten as "Last Friday Night" by Katy Perry goes 16-2! And what a precise prediction Hitstastic made - "Party Rock Anthem" does indeed leave the chart straight from number 2! Of course, this is just a third of the whole story - as tsetsi mentioned, last week's entire Top 3 is out of the chart! This is the first time when last week's number 1 has gone out... Which brings me to a quiz, the answer of which I don't know. I'm sure that a song has left European Top 20 from each position between number 2 and number 20... apart from number 3. Can anyone think of any instance when a song went out straight from number 3?
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Just look at the chart run of "Party Rock Anthem" during the last 6 weeks: 2-13-15-2-15-2 Any predictions at which position it's going to land next week?
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Oh, I'll be really happy if "Danza Kuduro" enters the chart! But even if it doesn't, for me European Top 20 now is at its best since I started watching it in April 2000 (maybe it shares this honour with the wonderful year 2007)!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
It seems like I'm saying this every week nowadays but "Sweat" by Snoop Dogg and David Guetta re-enters European Top 20 for the third time, making this its fourth separate run in the chart... And it's the fourth song to achieve this - after "Who's That Chick?", "Price Tag" and "Mr. Saxobeat". I wouldn't be surprised if Alexandra Stan's single becomes the first to re-enter the chart for the fourth time next week!... I'm not surprised that "The Edge Of Glory" by Lady GaGa has reached number 1 - I thought it might do it when it climbed to number 2 two weeks ago... As a matter of fact, this edition of European Top 20 looks like a direct continuation not of last week's edition but of the one from two weeks ago!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
And a record is broken this week! The 13-place climb of "Party Rock Anthem" by LMFAO is the biggest climb to number 2 ever! The previous record-holder was "Earth Song" by Michael Jackson, which went 14-2 at the end of 1995... Also, "Mr. Saxobeat" by Alexandra Stan re-enters the chart for the third time, i.e., this is its fourth separate run in European Top 20. It's the third song ever to do this... and, can you imagine, the previous two also did it this year - "Who's That Chick?" by David Guetta and Rihanna and "Price Tag" by Jessie J!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
There seems to be a change in the schedule of MTV Europe - instead of on Tuesdays at 20:00 CET they are going to broadcast European Top 20 on Tuesdays at 23:00 CET. In the meantime, I'll make a prediction that I have thought about for a long time - "California King Bed" by Rihanna will re-enter the chart at some point in the future!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Here is another couple of remarkable chart runs from 1998: Ricky Martin - The Cup Of Life 17-7-3-4 Jamiroquai - Deeper Underground 6-8 In my previous post I forgot to mention another thing about the "flow" of the chart. I'll once again give 2003 as the example for the "perfect flow" - songs climbed until they reached their peak position and then started falling... However, that was incredibly boring! There were only 4 or 5 occasions during the whole year when a song reclimbed - and each of those times I almost jumped for joy since it seemed like a miracle! As I have stated before, the chart is most interesting when you never know whether a song will go up or down next week... Let me also say something about the latest edition of European Top 20! Once again there is a surprising return to the top... and, as a bonus, there are 5 new entries... I really, really like the chart this year!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
I agree with you - to an extent. I think there have been strange editions of the chart before 2009 - but probably not as strange as the "Billboard" one... And I like your idea about the "flow" of the chart. However, in my opinion, apart from the "Billboard" edition and the disastrous one with "Mignon Mignon" and the X Factor Finalists, this year the "flow" of the chart has been quite good.. Moreover, after the "Billboard" edition, the chart-maker did their best to show some kind of a "flow" - for me that's the only reason why "Moment 4 Life" by Nicky Minaj spent so many weeks in the chart; the chart-maker obviously didn't want all the strange debuts from the "Billboard" edition to disappear immediately in the following one... Regarding the chart run of "E.T." - for me the strangest part of it by far was the 6-18-5 part... and during those weeks there was nothing else too strange about the "flow" of the chart... Not to mention that such things have also happened during the "good old times" - the example I thought of immediately was the chart run of "Got The Feelin'" by 5ive: 8-17-7-7 As a matter of fact, European Top 20 was quite peculiar during the whole 1998 in general! But that was the great thing about it and I'm sad that I wasn't watching the chart yet at the time...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Jamse, I don't think strange chart runs and a mysterious way of making the chart are directly related. It has never been exactly clear how the chart was done and during the 2000's there were so many huge hits in Europe that didn't even chart in European Top 20 - so I don't think the method then was standard at all... And yet, there was a period when there was almost nothing unexpected in the chart. The year 2003 is the best example - when a song entered European Top 20, you knew it was guaranteed to spend at least 7 weeks in the chart and reach a peak position of at least number 13...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
So after 9 weeks "E.T." by Katy Perry and Kanye West returns to the top! This is the second longest period it has taken a song to return to number 1 - the record was set in 2009, when "I Gotta Feeling" by Black Eyed Peas returned to the top after 11 weeks... Another remarkable thing is the chart run of "E.T." so far: 10-1-5-2-5-6-6-18-5-3-1 It's incredible - a song goes to number 1, then falls as low as number 18... and still manages to climb to the top once again! The other notable occurence in this edition of European Top 20 is that "Price Tag" by Jessie J re-enters the chart for the third time, i.e., this is its 4th separate run in the chart! It's only the second song to achieve this - the first was "Who's That Chick?" by David Guetta and Rihanna.
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MTV European Top 20 2011
And so this week "On The Floor" achieves Jennifer Lopez's longest run at number 1. "If You Had My Love" and "Play" stayed at the top for 3 weeks; "Love Don't Cost A Thing" and "Ain't It Funny" - for 5. This is the 6th week "On The Floor" spends at number 1... Would Jenny have guessed in 1999 that she'd score her biggest European hit 12 years later?!... With "Party Rock Anthem" LMFAO score their second number 2 hit after last year's "Gettin' Over You"... And just how many acts have two songs simultaneously in the chart? Jennifer Lopez, Pitbull, Black Eyed Peas, Lady GaGa, Bruno Mars... This must be a record (and for a second consecutive week - last week it was Jessie J instead of Bruno Mars)!
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MTV Europe Discussion & European Top 20 Archive
I think what I'm going to write will be long and chaotic... I'm a little confused - where did you find this information about the bubblers in European Top 20 during the years? I started watching the chart in April 2000. I do remember that in some weeks there were bubblers but I can only confirm some of the ones in Jamse's list - although there were periods of time when I was able to watch only the Top 10 of the chart so it's possible that I have missed some bubblers. So here are the ones I can confirm were played as bubblers in the chart: Mary Mary - Shackles - in fact, I seem to remember that they played it as a bubbler for TWO WEEKS in a row! That's why I was very annoyed when it entered the chart - I thought: "Yeah, it entered just because they were promoting it so much"... Artful Dodger - Woman Trouble Aqua - Bumblebees - that was one of the most memorable editions of the chart as Aqua presented the Top 20 (I have already told this story) so of course they would promote their own song! Truesteppers, Dane Bowers and Victoria - Out Of Your Mind Artful Dodger & Melanie Blatt - Twentyfourseven Gorillaz - Rock Da House Sum 41 - Fat Lip Lenny Kravitz - Stillness Of Heart - and the chart presenter announced it with the words: "Now this man used to rock..." David Charvet - Leap Of Faith - and then later I was so disappointed when not this song but a song by another David entered the chart - Guetta's "Love Don't Let Me Go"... Here are some which I'm not sure about - I think I saw them on European Top 20 but it might have been on another show on MTV Europe: Montell Jordan - Get It On Tonite - or at least some song by Montell Jordan Mandy Moore - Candy Pink - There You Go Sweet Female Attitude - Flowers U2 - Beautiful Day Samantha Mumba - Baby Come On Over - or at least some song by Samantha Mumba Alcazar - Crying At The Discotheque IIO - Rapture Creed - My Sacrifice Macy Gray - Sexual Revolution DB Boulevard - Point Of View These two are a special case: Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out Of My Head Emma Bunton - Take My Breath Away They weren't played during the chart; Joanne was just reading some emails sent to her by fans of the chart. One was asking whether "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" would enter the chart - Joanne answered that it was a very strong contender. Another was asking whether "Take My Breath Away" would enter the chart - Joanne answered that it wasn't very probable... Here are two videos which don't appear in Jamse's list but I'm SURE were played as bubblers: DJ Jurgen - Higher & Higher Texas - In Demand - Kicki specifically mentioned that it was "very hot" in The Netherlands I'm not sure about these ones but maybe they were also bubblers: Whitney Houston & George Michael - If I Told You That Alice Deejay - Will I Ever Then maybe I didn't understand correctly but in one edition I think I heard Trey mention a song that was successful across Europe, which goes: "La La La La La"... I wanted to believe he was talking about ATC's song! In early 2003, Ina-Geraldine presented "Kusha Las Payas" (only a part of the video was played) but not as a bubbler - as a matter of fact, she mentioned that it was so unimpressive compared to "Asereje"... Hopefully I'll remember some other pieces of information as well! Euphorique, A LOT can be added to that list of big hits not making it to European Top 20 - maybe I'll contribute later as well. For now I just want to mention that you have listed incorrectly S Club 7's "Bring It All Back" - it did enter the chart!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
So with "On The Floor" Jennifer Lopez scores a 5th chart-topper in European Top 20 after "If You Had My Love", "Love Don't Cost A Thing", "Play" and "Ain't It Funny". She had to wait for 10 years to have a number 1 again! And then there is a record - "Who's That Chick?" by David Guetta and Rihanna re-enters the chart for the THIRD time! This is the first song to have 4 separate chart runs in MTV European Top 20!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Well, this is just a copy of last week's Billboard Hot 100! It's a mystery to me why the US chart would be used for a EUROPEAN Top 20...
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MTV European Top 20 2011
Well, this week the chart certainly isn't too similar to other pan-European charts. There are some strange things about these new entries but at least this shows the chart is unpredictable! Oh, and the 18-place fall of "What's My Name?" is the biggest fall in the history of MTV European Top 20! The previous record for a fall from number 2 was held by "Lose Yourself" by Eminem, which went 2-18 in 2003... However, in 2006 "The Saints Are Coming" by U2 and Green Day actually left the chart straight from number 2!
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MTV European Top 20 2011
A nice edition of the chart. I'm not happy when there are new entries that are only charting in the UK but at least it's not such a problem when they are outside the Top 10 of MTV European Top 20. However, I'm a little worried that this edition of the chart looks similar to this one: http://european-mega-charts.blogspot.com/2...5-29012011.html I hope that's just a coincidence!