6weeksatnumber7

Voting is closed. Too easy to manipulate the decision if you know who is yet to vote, know the way they're likely to vote, and are hosting the competition.

Cheap. 0/10 from Inner Massivia if you enter it. You may as well enter the far superior original version:

Average score from Inner Massivia: 5.4/10

might be worth updating the who's voted list - people are more likely to vote if they see they're one of the few who hasn't.

What's the logistic difficulty of having 11 songs instead of 10?

Just voted. After all the hype about the songs in SF2 I was a bit underwhelmed with the quality of those put through to the final. Of the 10 songs to receive votes, five came from each semi. Highest mark given was 8/10 with the tenth and last song to receive points getting 6.25/10. Twelve of the songs in the final received 5/10 or lower. All four continents placed at least one representative in the Inner Massivia final 10. ---------- btw Kopecka's video is no longer available due to "terms of use violation" .... others do still remain if your search YouTube.

Superb single from Lily. Really stands out on the radio, and perversely shows far more of the influence of the Pet Shop Boys than Girls Aloud's The Loving Kind which was co-penned by PSB.

But Shine was clearly eligible. It was released in late Feb 2007 going to #1 in March. The 2008 Brit awards effectively covered the "music year" Dec 1st 2006 to Dec 31st 2007 as far as singles were concerned.

You just tell the person the song and/or artist has already been taken by PM. No big deal. Be keeping it to a week it doesn't effect any schedule - could hold it during the never ending reservation/confirmation fortnight which just seems to drag on forever.

It's still very generic though. Surely there's been far better entries than this?

BaNG should send this: aOKnU3fbtfw

How about having a one week spin-off? No reservation thread. No confirmation thread. Simply a posting of the start date and then first come first served sending your artist/song to the host over 3 days with no-one allowed to reveal which song they're thinking of submitting or confirming they've sent until voting is open. Then a 4 day voting period. Sing submission starts 12:01am Sunday closes 11.59pm Tuesday. Voting starts 12:01am Wednesday closes 6:00pm Sunday. Quick and easy, relatively painless, won't effect the current schedule. I'd be happy to host it.

I think the Guardian article was in part inspired by this post on the industry ROTD message board (which in turn was inspired by a similar post on Buzzjack 2-3 weeks back): The sales nadir was 2005/06. Since then thanks to the expansion of the digital market you need to sell far more on average to make Top 75, Top 40, Top 10 and number 1. And the curve continues on an upward trend month by month. The make up of the chart is now starting to resemble how it was in the 70s/80s/early 90s rather than the ridiculous straight in at #1 culture for 1 week of the late 90s/early 2000s which I think is partly what killed TOTP. How could you get to know an artist and grow with them when each week another faceless act debuted at the top and three or four others joined them in the top 10, before they all plummeted with undue haste? Songs in general are now sticking around for longer and have chart careers instead worth monitoring. Culled these stats last week when engaging in a similar discussion - the numbers for the last 29 years refer to how many songs went straight in at number 1 and how many numbers 1s there were in each year. Notice the big change in the pattern 1994/95 which lasted for over a decade and (to me) helped kill TOTP. 1960s 18.6 #1s a year on average 1970s 16.8 #1s a year on average Prior to 1980 singles were generally released on a Friday with a Saturday noon cut-off so it was difficult to jump straight in at #1 (only seven occurrences in twenty years). 1980 saw the start of the switch to Monday releases with The Jam being the first act to benefit. 1980 1/24 1981 1/19 1982 2/21 1983 1/17 1984 2/14 1985 1/19 1986 0/20 1987 1/19 1988 0/19 1989 4/18 1990 1/18 1991 4/16 1992 1/13 1993 4/16 1994 3/16 1995 10/18 1996 18/24 1997 21/24 1998 27/30 1999 33/35 2000 42/43 2001 29/31 2002 31/31 2003 23/23 2004 28/29 2005 27/29 2006 9/25 2007 6/17 2008 10/20 I think this change fundamentally improves the outlook for a new TOTP and it would be a worthwhile exercise once more.

Would you consider participating in spin-off contests? Yes Would you rather see them run parallel with or in place of regular BJSC contests? Neither - There's 52 weeks a year, 2 weeks off for Xmas, two weeks off for Eurovision leaves 48 weeks = 10 regular contests, 1 spin-off, 1 best of. Break it up: 5 regular contests, Spin Off, 5 regular contests, Best Of. If they were to be in place of regular BJSC contests, would you prefer a spin-off to be after XIII, after XIV or later than this? After XVI and before XVII. How often do you feel that spin-off contests should happen? Once a year - see above. If you are willing to participate in spin-off contests, can you suggest any interesting themes? One word titles. Any further comments/suggestions? Keep up the good work.

I assumed Duffy was nixed as Mercy was already there. And I can't remember Wiley or HtwoO making the Radio 2 playlist ...

It's a very strong top 20.

Here's the 30 best-selling UK singles of last year - those BRIT nominated are asterisked: *1 Alexandra Burke Hallelujah 887935 *2 X Factor Finalists Hero 751245 *3 Duffy Mercy 535645 *4 Estelle feat Kanye West American Boy 458500 *5 Dizzee Rascal Dance Wiv Me 386820 6 Leona Lewis Run 362370 *7 Girls Aloud The Promise 349450 8 Ting Tings That's Not My Name 300000 *9 Coldplay Viva La Vida 295815 *10 Adele Chasing Pavements 284000 ------------- 11 H Two O feat Platnum What's It gonna Be? 260000 12 Duffy Warwick Avenue 252915 13 Wiley Wearing My Rolex 240750 *14 Leona Lewis Better in Time/Footprints In The Sand 237500 15 Guru Josh Project Infinity 2008 224115 16 Take That Rule The World 215075 17 Alesha Dixon The Boy Does Nothing 208345 18 Take That Greatest Day 205930 19 Utah Saints Something Good 174000 20 Mark Ronson feat Amy Winehouse Valerie 166000 21 David Jordan Sun Goes Down 165000 22 Ting Tings Shut Up And Let Me Go 163000 23 Sugababes Girls 154840 24 Ironik Stay With Me 154500 25 Girls Aloud Can't Speak French 153000 26 Saturdays Up 151700 27 Taio Cruz Come One Girl 151000 28 Scouting for Girls Elvis Ain't Dead 148000 29 Leona Lewis Bleeding Love 144000 *30 Scouting for Girls Heartbeat 143500 so Leona and the Ting Tings missed out with their top 10 songs, but they swapped in another Leona song just outside the top 10 which had big longevity on airplay so maybe you could see why they did that. The Ting Tings snub seems bizarre though.

Bohemian Rhapsody - Kenny Everett.

Can't believe Girls didn't get nominated ....

If it's Black and Gold it might be considered a bit cheap ;)

They'd have been better nominating her this year rather than last as she was so close to the cut-off for nominations and voting it was always going to affect her realistic chances of a nod.

That isn't promo - it's the cover of the BRIT Awards album. The "exclusive" is Womanizer which I assume hasn't been on any other compilation albums.

Tthey've changed the rules. You can't be nominated for the same album twice now or in the best male/female/group category if you've been already been nominated for the eligible album.

It's absolutely dreadful in so many ways that Buzzjack would need a new server if I started to list them.

Given Jester's Kingdom's qualification I thought I'd try the marmite route .....