Mushymanrob

I can see criminals just upping the ante on how they go about their criminal activity.
I can also see a lot more innocent people being wrongly accused by planted DNA by clever crims who know how to avoid getting caught.

Don't think it cant happen. It will.

they can plant evidence now!

nah.... if your dna was recorded on a national database youd be LESS inclined to commit a criminal activity cos you KNOW your chances of getting caught are greater.

Judge blasts Jeremy Kyle show as 'trash'

tbh i cant be arsed to discuss the ins and out of jeremy effing kyle! ive said my peice and i take on board others objections, it really is trivial, too trivial to take any further. :)

Retro moaners thread

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maybe one game per week would be better as it will just end up with loads and loads of list thread rather than discussing and debating
and if we are talking about effort put in, however much effort is involved in cutting and pasting.

innit odd how nobody remembers either joe meek or paul young, or are you all being complete bast*rds and only ignorijg these threads because i posted it?? talking personal now aint we rather than being about the music!!!!

tbh alex, i have trouble understanding where youre coming from :) . and like brian, i have nothing to say about meek or young.

Judge blasts Jeremy Kyle show as 'trash'

Mushymanrob - but Kyle IS a Joke. I am not saying that there
are not some very damaged people on his Show, but he makes
the Show ALL about HIM.

'Look at me! My name is Kyle!
My Ego's huge! My Show is vile!'

I have read before that he has Zero qualifications to counsel,
& advise - and patronise - the people who appear on the Show.
All he does is say things like, he moved Heaven & Earth to help his
Brother, who was on Heroin. And that when he was working away
from Home, he, 'drove all night', to get back to his Children. It is
ALL about HIM! He is a boastful, arrogant, over bearing show off.

As for the Guy who Kyle calls, 'A Genius' - Graham - Psychologist
- whenever he is brought onto the Stage, he just comes out with
100% obvious advice, that I & many others, can think of by ourselves,
& we do not regard ourselves as either Psychologists or Genius's.

As for those who condemn the Show, being 'Hypocrites' - for watching
it. Well, I have never liked people who want Films or Games etc. 'Banned',
& then you find out that they have never even seen what they want to get
rid of. THAT is Hypocritical. By actually studying the Kyle Show, one can
- gradually - see the patterns of how it works, & what is so wrong about
it.

I watch it about once every 2 Weeks - if that - to see if it is still as awful
it used to be. There is no imagination in the types of problems & the people
that they have on. Nearly all of the 'Guests' are what I call Semi Barbarians
- some are Total Barbarians. They have no idea how to chat in a calm way.
No idea how to behave - on or off TV, & so on.

They give Working Class people a bad name!!!!!

Also, the Show is obsessed with 'Cheating'. About 70% of the Guests
are on because their Boy Friend/Girl Friend/Husband/Wife, MAY have
'Cheated' on them. There is then endless questioning, from Kyle, about
why they think this - have they found 'dodgy' Text Messages, & so on - it is
ALWAYS the SAME, when they cover 'Cheating'. Then, we often get
the good old, 'Lie Detector Test', so Kyle can give long pauses as he reads
the Results, from a Card - 'Was he/she telling the truth?'

The idiots who appear on his Show, must be really scrapping the barrel
to think that Kyle truly 'Cares' - he is a money making Ego, on 2 legs.

I think it is good that over 25,000 Digital Spy Posts have been made about
how AWFUL the Show is - it will stand as a telling & revealing 'Internet Monument',
as to how UNpopular the Man really is - and how he can wear all the nice suits
that he likes, but that does not give him - or his Show - any class whatsoever.
It is 100% phoney, & a vehicle for HIM to show off - when he has Zero
right to Counsel/Advise anyone with problems. He is no more qualified
to do so, than a Homeless Man, who lives under a Bridge, in a Cardboard Box!!!!!!

you have said NOTHING here at all to discredit the good for hundereds he has done.... just ranted about whats bad about him. ok, im not claiming hes 'god' or that his style of tv is particually palatable, but my point stand... WHY TF DO PEOPLE WATCH IT IF THEY DONT LIKE IT? switch off! simple.

again JEREMY KYLE DOES NOT COUNCEL ANYBODY, his qualified team do.

what tv presenter show ISNT a vehicle for the said presenter to show off?... :lol: you talk as if kyles the only one! none of your accusations against him can be attributed to him alone. hes a tv presenter!

it doesnt matter if he 'cares' or not, does your doctor 'care'? he puts you right then thats it. same with jk... you totally overlook all the good he has done for people, phoney? but why? hes not claiming to be anything other then what he is! :lol:

hes a tv presenter with a big ego who puts on public display people with problems that in his own style straightens out. i couldnt give a flying fcuk who likes him or who doesnt... im not particually fond of the guy myself, but the facts are that he (forwhatever reason) provides help for desperate people who dont know which way to turn. if you dont like him.... DONT WATCH! :lol:

Judge blasts Jeremy Kyle show as 'trash'

Couldn't have put it better myself... Post of the Week award to Zeus..... :cheer:

nonsense.

Judge blasts Jeremy Kyle show as 'trash'

ill answer all the points raised from above here

1 he is a tv presenter... OF COURSE HES GOT AN EGO everyone in that position has!

2 of COURSE 'genius' only says what everyone knows, he does his real councelling behind the scenes!

3 shoat.... kyle DOESNT give advice, his team (qualified ) do

4 they dont get help in private because often they cant afford it, know how to get it, or have the willpower to stick to it! doing it in public gives them the motivation... ITS VOLUTNTARY.

national dna database

On Panorama they did do that and they were still after him even though it was obvious that a man who struggled to walk through a door couldn't climb through a window. What if he didn't have Parkinson's? Would they have still believed him?

true, but as technology increases (and panorama demonstrated that it has done) this will become much more accurate as instead of the current 18 points of identity, others will be added making 'matching' dna much harder to occur, eventually they will accurately be able to be 100%.

national dna database

Spot on KG... But of course, the control freak "Nu Labor" Govt wants to try and change that... Innocent or guilty, you will be forced to comply.... <_<

Police State tactics in a supposedly "free" country.... May as well be living in China or Stalinist Russia.... <_< <_<

sometimes reason leaves you posts m8 :). if this proposal goes ahead then civil liberties would be INCREASED, making society a safer place, wouldnt that INCREASE personal liberty and freedom?...

if this went ahead (and it should) it wouldnt be a CRIMINAL database, i wish some people here would understand that!

Smoking Crackdown in cars

it takes 2 fingers to smoke.....

Plus, both hands always on the wheel whilst driving? Changing gears, anyone?

2 fingers occupy 1 hand m8, try changing gears holding a fag! ... nah soz russ, it makes sense.

Burmese Protests

theres already a 'burma' thread m8 :)

EU Referendum

erm.... gordon brown is gaining popularity, not losing it!

wouldnt a referendum be a waste of time and money? realistically we ARE in europe and we cannot survive as an island state alone, those days are gone. tbh im not bothered wether we have a referendum or not.

1970 Retro Records Of The Year Game: Results

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can i nominate

shocking blue...'venus' (the best version by FAR)

and

cat stevens ... 'lady d'arbanville' to the list :)

Seized "art porn" owned by Elton John.

hmmm.... the problem is, with or without intent, perverts WILL get their rocks off at anything. are kids going to be dressed in sacks or islamic dress to hide their bodies? but what is the difference between 'art' and pornography? probably in the beholders mind!

The situation in Burma(Myanmar)

they've always been politicised, though..... whenever there's trouble - it's always the Olympics that get hit.... Russia/Afghanistan? Munich?

well thats only half true, whilst during the cold war the olympics have been used as a political tool, this hasnt been the case since motreal in 88? certainly by barcelona in 92 and ever since the olympics have been fully reprisented.

Smoking Crackdown in cars

if the law states that you need 2 free hands to be in full control of your vehicle, then its inevitable that drivers smoking is a no-no. no ones saying that you cant smoke in your car, just not the driver when driving.... makes sense.

Judge blasts Jeremy Kyle show as 'trash'

At the Digital Spy Forums there is a HUGE Thread on how laughable &
false Kyle & his Show is.....He is a 100% joke.

It is in the TV Programmes Forum, & the Thread is called:,

Top 5 Most Annoying Things Jeremy Kyle Does

It has 25,281 Replies/Posts in it!!!!!!

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/index.php

you see ..... this is what i have a problem with... if jk is SO annoying, how come theres 25k replies saying so?... WHY DO THEY FCUKIN WELL WATCH IT!? hypocrites, thats why, they 'get off' on him as much as anyone else but pretends to be so high and mighty because they are in denial, THEY LIKE IT!

its utter nonsense to call him 'a total joke', try telling that to the abused kids that HIS councelling has helped, or the drug addicts, alcoholics, people with anger issues, all of which are now able to live normal lives thanks to his team! I BET THEY DONT FIND IT 'A JOKE' <_< go on, explain that.

national dna database

But a national database is gonna make it soooooo much easier for them to do that though innit....?

in theory yes.... but on the other hand just how many people will be wrongly stitched up and how many villains will be caught? the negatives here are a minor point in comparison to the overwhelming benefits.

Judge blasts Jeremy Kyle show as 'trash'

But the thing is, hs 'victims' quite frankly cant give a shit about him. For someone who takes drugs, fights onto streets, murders in some cases, one man who rockets into a rant and all his clapping dummies arn't going to change there views.

nonsense... the 'victims' are there for help, and he gives it to those who want it. its the perpetrators, the scumbags, the idiots, who get riddiculed on national tv that are too stupid to change... i think you arnt differentiating between victims here and the rest.

national dna database

DNA does not really solve rapes, 90% of people who claim to be rape know the person they accused.

All DNA does is identify the person they have slept ,it does not resolve wether the person was raped or not, otherwise the 5% of rape claims that currently end in conviction would be 99%-100%.

DNA solves no crime it only indicates a person was in the area, or had contact with the 'victim', it doesn't answer the question, it only adds another layer of evidence.

The general public have been led to believe that DNA is the be all and end all of crime fighting, when in fact it is only one more clue

rape is a very difficult crime to nail... but the cases i mentioned were raped then murdered. these 2 murderers were caught before they could possibly re-offend and they are paying for their crime (if being locked up is 'paying' for the life they took)

yep, its a tool, a bloody GOOD tool. it would be utterly riddiculous to ignore it.

Prison without bars is no punishment for criminals