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    so whats the fuss?... why is he regarded soooo highly?.. off the back of 1 album (pet sounds)...

     

    but was it that good?... im not so sure

     

    the 'surf' sound was pretty lame tbh, and when bri veered away from that into something deeper was it really that good?.. ok, 'god only knows'... seems pretty repetitive to me!, and 'good vibrations' started off brilliantly, but if ever a song lost its way then its this one! its like he didnt know how to complete this excellent vision.

     

    im not sure he should be regarded in such high esteem, there are/were/have been far better songwriters... he was good... but not that good.

    18-11-65: Presenter: Alan Freeman (Wiped)

     

    LEN BARRY – 1-2-3 (video)........................................................... :)

    THE WHO – My Generation............................................................ :thumbup:

    THE ROLLING STONES – Get Off My Cloud

     

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    18-11-71: Presenter: Jimmy Savile (Wiped)

     

    CHER – Gypsies, Tramps And Thieves (crowd dancing) (and charts)......................... :thumbup:

    LABI SIFFRE – It Must Be Love

    THE PIGLETS – Johnny Reggae (video)........................................................... :)

    OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN – Banks Of The Ohio................................................. :puke2:

    .THE WHO – Let’s See Action (danced to by Pan’s People)

    SLADE – Coz I Luv You

    JOHN KONGOS – Tokoloshe Man (crowd dancing) (and credits)

     

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    18-11-76: Presenter: David Jensen (Wiped)

     

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    18-11-82: Presenter: John Peel.

     

    .DURAN DURAN – Rio...................................................... :)

    TEARS FOR FEARS – Mad World ..................................... :)

    BLANCMANGE – Living On The Ceiling ............................... :)

    RENÉE & RENATO – Save Your Love (video).......................... :puke2:

    WHAM! – Young Guns (Go For It).............................................. :)

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    each religion has their own traditions, muslims despise the wearing of short skirts and of people wearing no shirt yet they respect the right in the west for people to wear short skirts and to wear no shirt in the summer so if they are putting up with something that is offensive to them then why can't we put up with something that might be offensive to some of us ? Islamic muslims do not like the exposing of flesh, it may seem weird to us but what we wear is weird to them so live and let live as far as I am concerned.

     

    are we allowed to wear short skirts or bare chests in an islamic country?.... no. so if wearing a mask is now deamed as unacceptable then i see no problem in that.

     

    i must admit though, i find it quite strange that you as a jewish person should be sticking up for a religion that wants to exterminate your race!

     

    security risk my ass its pure racism and nothing more and demonises members of a particular religion, I have no objection to ALL religious regalia being banned but its obscene that muslims are being demonised while sikhs can still wear turbans, nuns can wear their religious gear, jews can wear skullcaps and so on

     

    I don't know why countries don't just be upfront about it and bring in a law saying its a criminal offence to be a muslim because that is the next stage :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

     

     

    theres no comparison between turbans, skullcaps etc and a bloody mask!

    I watched a documentary about the Muslim community in Holland. It was screened just after the murder of Theo van Gogh and they were interviewing various Muslim families who lived in the sprawling suburbs of Amsterdam. In effect they lived in a Muslim ghetto. The housing schemes were basically populated by North Africans with very few indigenous Dutch anywhere nearby.

     

    These families were being asked about integration and what they thought could be done to help the Muslim Community to integrate more with the rest of the population (so to build understanding between the communities and avoid similar religious murders).

    I was expecting them to go for the usual suspects (alleviation of poverty, positive discrimination in the workplace etc etc). But they didn't. To a man (and I think it was only men who spoke), they said they had no desire to integrate with , as they saw it, decadent Westerners. They said they didn't consider themselves Dutch or European but Muslim. And they wanted to live in their own self-contained Muslim society in Holland, ideally following Muslim Sharia law.

    Is that the prevalent view of Dutch Muslims? I've no idea.

     

    But if it is, is that a view a Western liberal democracy can accept? Does a Western Govt just say, well, ok then, you may live in this country but we as a State will accept your complete isolation. You may cut yourself off completely, live as your religion dictates, follow your own laws.

    It can be done. Just look at the Amish Community in America.

     

    But the difference was that most of the Dutch Muslims they interviewed were not 'self-supporting'. They either had no jobs or very low paid jobs. The young men had no prospects. They survived on State handouts. The resentment was very evident.

     

    So does a Government say, look, this situation is not sustainable. We cannot allow an increasing number of our countrymen to cut themselves off, never speak to a 'Western' person, play no part in the wider society.

     

    But then what? You can't force people to integrate. That only leads to further alienation.

     

    I don't have the answer. It's not simple. It's not black and white. I don't think for a minute that a Muslim woman wearing a veil is a Security risk. That's just a ludicrous assertion.

    But I do think that the veil (and particularly burqa) is a major barrier to any possibility of integration. As a feminist (of a very secular disposition), I do find it very offensive. To me the connotation is that that woman is at best a second class citizen. Someone who cannot be seen by a man outside her immediate family is , lets face it, going to struggle to carve a career for herself. And surely it must be demeaning to men as well?

    Is this why my forebears fought for centuries to get equal treatment? So increasing numbers of women cover up from head to toe and see the world through a mesh?

    But again, even that is not as straightforward as it first appears. Because again from what I understand, it's the younger generation of women in Western Societies who are choosing to dress this way. They are not it seems being forced to do it. When I was at Uni many years ago I had several Muslim friends. Not one of the girls wore a veil. Their dress was quite western. That's not the case nowadays. Muslim women in their teens and twenties are opting to wear much more 'restrictive?' clothing than their own mothers did. Apparently less flesh on display equates to being a more devout Muslim.

    So I guess from a feminist perspective you could say they have the right to dress exactly as they want.

     

    I find it all very depressing actually. I don't want to impinge on anyone's 'rights' but at the same time I don't want to see increasingly separate societies within a society. Allowing the latter may cause much greater problems than banning a burqa. :cry:

     

     

    good points bri...

    17-11-66: Presenter: Jimmy Savile (Wiped)

     

    THE BEACH BOYS – Good Vibrations (and charts)........................... :thumbup:

    VAL DOONICAN – What Would I Be........................................ :thumbup: . :o :o :o

    PAUL JONES – High Time

    .THE YARDBIRDS – Happenings Ten Years Time Ago.................................. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

    SPENCER DAVIS GROUP – Gimme Some Loving........................................ :thumbup:

    THE BEACH BOYS – Good Vibrations (video)

     

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    17-11-77: Presenter: Jimmy Savile O.B.E.

     

    JONATHAN RICHMAN & THE MODERN LOVERS – Egyptian Reggae (and charts)..................... :)

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    THE BOOMTOWN RATS – Mary Of The 4th Form.......................................................... :thumbup:

    .ABBA – The Name Of The Game (video).................................................. :thumbup:

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    17-11-83: Presenters: Jimmy Savile O.B.E./Gary Davies.

     

    AZTEC CAMERA – Oblivious ............................................................. :thumbup:

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    17-11-88: Presenters: Gary Davies/Susie Mathis.

     

    YAZZ – Stand Up For Your Love Rights

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    17-11-2000: Presenter: Jamie Theakston.

     

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    16-11-67: Presenters: Pete Murray/Emperor Rosko (Wiped)

     

    THE FOUNDATIONS – Baby Now That I’ve Found You (and charts)

    SIMON DUPREE & THE BIG SOUND – Kites .......................................... :thumbup:

    FELICE TAYLOR – I Feel Love Coming On

     

     

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    16-11-72: Presenter: Jimmy Savile.

     

     

     

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    16-11-78: Presenter: David Jensen.

     

     

    THE BUZZCOCKS – Promises

    BLONDIE – Hanging On The Telephone (video)

    STREETBAND – Toast

    THE BOOMTOWN RATS – Rat Trap

     

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    16-11-89: Presenter: Simon Mayo.

     

    JIMMY SOMERVILLE feat. JUNE MILES-KINGSTON – Comment Te Dire Adieu

    KAOMA – Lambada (video)............................................... :thumbup: :lol:

     

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    16-11-2001: Presenter: Vernon Kay.

     

     

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    15-11-73: Presenter: Tony Blackburn.

     

    MOTT THE HOOPLE – Roll Away The Stone

    DAVID ESSEX – Lamplight

    KIKI DEE – Amoureuse

     

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    15-11-79: Presenter: David Jensen.

     

    THE JAM – The Eton Rifles

    THE TOURISTS – I Only Want To Be With You

    B.A. ROBERTSON – Knocked It Off

     

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    15-11-84: Presenters: Mike Read/Bruno Brookes.

     

     

     

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    15-11-90: Presenter: Bruno Brookes.

     

     

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    15-11-96: Presenters: The Fast Show.

     

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    15-11-2002: Presenter: Liz Bonnin.

     

    QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE – No One Knows........................ :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

    MISSY ELLIOTT – Work It

     

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    I dont see why anyone should accept unnacceptable actions of a Govt (and there is a difference here, between a country and its Govt..), especially when those actions involve killing people's relatives or their fellow countrymen for no reason other than to arse-lick the fukkin' Yanks.... <_<

     

     

    i was on about the indiginous religion, not the governments actions.

    14-11-68: Presenter: Jimmy Savile (Wiped)

     

    HUGO MONTENEGRO – The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (and charts)

    BARRY RYAN – Eloise..................................................................................................... :thumbup:

    LONG JOHN BALDRY – Mexico

    JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE – All Along The Watchtower (danced to by Pan’s People)............... :thumbup:

     

     

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    14-11-74: Presenter: Dave Lee Travis (Wiped)

     

    EDDIE HOLMAN – (Hey There) Lonely Girl............................ :puke2: :puke2: :puke2: :puke2:

    BARRY WHITE – You’re The First, The Last, My Everything (danced to by Pan's People).. :puke2: :puke2:

    THE CHI-LITES – Too Good To Be Forgotten (video).................................. :puke2: :puke2: :puke2:

     

    i HATE sweet soul

     

     

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    14-11-85: Presenters: Gary Davies/Mike Smith.

     

    LLOYD COLE & THE COMMOTIONS – Lost Weekend

    EURYTHMICS & ARETHA FRANKLIN – Sisters Are Doin’ It For Themselves (video)

    KING – The Taste Of Your Tears

    TALKING HEADS – Road To Nowhere (video)................................................... :thumbup:

    MADNESS – Uncle Sam (video) (Breakers)

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    14-11-91: Presenters: Tony Dortie/Claudia Simon.

     

    .VIC REEVES & THE WONDERSTUFF – Dizzy (video)

     

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    14-11-97: Presenter: Jayne Middlemiss.

     

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    14-11-2003: Presenters: Margherita Taylor/Richard Bacon.

     

    .OUTKAST – Hey Ya............................................. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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    Eh...? I think you and Craig misunderstand... I was being a bit sarcastic.... I've not seen ANY anti-Christmas demos.... Or anti-Christian ones either....

     

    On the other hand though, couldn't Richard Dawkins' progs be considered a bit 'anti-Christian'.....? :lol:

     

     

    oh , i see. yes i misunderstood... easy with cold text type.

     

    but richard dawkins is anti religion, christian, islam, pagan, anything!

     

    the point being that immigants must know what to expect when they come here, therefore they should accept it or not come!

    Does this ever end.

     

     

    why should it? i think the reasons are pretty clear, but 'fans' chose to turn a blind eye to his actions.

     

    why dont his supporters let a middle aged stranger sleep in the same bed as THEIR daughter whos 10? go on.... oh but michalien (big dark eyes, grey skin.... alien!) cant be a pervert can he! hes the king of pop!

     

     

    (just like gary glitter was) :lol: